b0m8er Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 No, I'm not gonna do it. I want my wife to be white and my children to be white :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndurilShards Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I'm not really into the word race as racist slave owners were actually the ones that created that word to put all africans into a sub-group so that they can enslave them we're actually all in the HUMAN race so just an encouraging thought :) I don't mind dating girls of a diff ethnicity though I'm almost all filipino but I'm also part japanese and part spanish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_canada Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 It doesn't matter to me, I'm interested in other cultures as well, and my parents prolly won't say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3nuo Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I love all flavors :) my best friends are african american, and I honestly couldn't see how someone could be against an interracial marriage or relationship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwind Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 When you quoted ghostwind, he was referring to everything in a sociological context. Here you're trying to disagree with him based on boundaries being non-existant. Your ignoring politics and political boundaries (real or imagined) separating states, provinces, countries, citires. In your last sentence, you agree that society exists. You can't deny politics don't exist. So point one in invalid. On your second point, I hope you've never studied biology before. Have you ever seen a poodle and a rottweiler. I can assure you there are differences, 'biologically' between the two. The hormones are different for one, explaining behaviour differences. The metabolic system, the brain are all different and so is the DNA. As for race, if you want to get in on the 'DNA' aspect... Humans have one main DNA base (except for X & Y differences). There's no appreciable difference between humans on this level to account for race. The anatomy is also virtually the same, given if we live in the same environmental conditions. If the last 200 generations of my ancestors carried water on their heads, you would likely see a thicker bone structure on the top of the head. That's why 'biologically' at least, there is no race. It basically refered to as ethnicity. 586724726[/snapback] Couldn't have said it better myself. The biggest issue in racism is due to the fact that people do not understand that we are all the same. we have just evolved differently due to the conditions we live in--my ultimate point in this thread. with that being said, people do have the right to believe in what they want to, after all, we do have freedom of thought and expression, as long as those beliefs do not turn into descrimination. I live in Vancouver, Canada, with one of the largest ethnic populations in Canada. Nearly 37% of people living here are a minority. It is this mix that makes vancouver such an interesting place to live. One of the few places that I know of that you can eat different ethnic cuisine every night of the week! Just remember that "race" is the same while species are different. species such as lions and tigers are different species due to the fact that they cannot produce fertile offspring. Humans on the otherhand can reproduce fertile offspring with people of other "races." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerlb Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I got married to my long time grilfriend on aug 20 2005. she is hispanic, cuban/peruvian and we were dating for 7 yrs. I have always dated hispanic women. I am white and my faliny has never had a problem with me dating women of different races Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 well im half irish half black. dated asians and hispanics mostly with a white girl here and there but i never had a black gf. 586711833[/snapback] Im irish.. Wife is black... Daugher is more whiteish in color. 586711883[/snapback] hah im half italian half black, and my name is matt too ahahhah and i also have never dated a black chick 586715293[/snapback] Irish and Italian are not races, people. You could be negroid, mongoloid or caucasian and still be Irish or Italian if you had been born in Ireland or Italy. Hate to tell you, but there is no such thing as race. We are all the same thing. Our so called racial features make up a mere .02% of the human genome. 586715259[/snapback] So dog breeds are all the same? Bird species? Insect species? That 0.02% difference is about the same between chimps and humans. Are you saying we're no different than they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwind Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Irish and Italian are not races, people. You could be negroid, mongoloid or caucasian and still be Irish or Italian if you had been born in Ireland or Italy.So dog breeds are all the same? Bird species? Insect species? That 0.02% difference is about the same between chimps and humans. Are you saying we're no different than they are? 586728445[/snapback] negroid, mongoloid or caucasian is based on 18th century science. As for your other question, please refer to my other posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 negroid, mongoloid or caucasian is based on 18th century science. As for your other question, please refer to my other posts. 586728536[/snapback] What are you answering, the Italian race part or the races-do-exist part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwind Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 What are you answering, the Italian race part or the races-do-exist part? 586728593[/snapback] sorry, my last post didn't make much sense to me either. I was in a mad dash to get to class on time. negroid, mongoloid or caucasoid, were terms dreamed up by scientists in the 1800's in an effort to class human beings into different species. People often misuse species and race interchangably. species have discreet(sp?) catagories. In otherwords, one species cannot reproduce fertile offspring with the member of another species. For instance, when a lion and tiger reproduce, they produce somthing called a Liger, which is infertile. The human race, however is a single race. If there were separate races, as the earlier scientists suggested, an asian, and a black person would be unable to reproduce fertile offspring. Since they can produce offspring, they are of one species. As for Races. There never has been, nor ever will be so called pure races due to the fact that we have been breeding with eachother. a dog is a dog, regardless of what breed it is, a horse is a horse, regardless of what breed it is, and a human is a human, regardless of what "breed " it is. It was pointed out that our biological differences are more likely due to environmental factors we have experienced throughout history. For instance, northeren Europeans have lighter skin due to less exposure to the sunlight. To answer your question, there is no Italian Race. Nor is there a German race, Jewish race, african race, or any other race for the matter. But there are Ethnicities in all of the above stated groups. Ethnicity is the cultural practices, language, cuisine and traditions used to distinguish groups of persons?not biological or physical differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogosama Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 its not race that defines the woman i think that asian women are beautiful but i also think black and indian women are both ewual in beauty same as white which i consider my race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufdvr3669 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 (edited) As for race, if you want to get in on the 'DNA' aspect... Humans have one main DNA base (except for X & Y differences). There's no appreciable difference between humans on this level to account for race. The anatomy is also virtually the same, given if we live in the same environmental conditions. If the last 200 generations of my ancestors carried water on their heads, you would likely see a thicker bone structure on the top of the head. That's why 'biologically' at least, there is no race. It basically refered to as ethnicity.On your second point, I hope you've never studied biology before. Have you ever seen a poodle and a rottweiler. I can assure you there are differences, 'biologically' between the two. The hormones are different for one, explaining behaviour differences. The metabolic system, the brain are all different and so is the DNA. 586724726[/snapback] No difference between races? Many Asians lack an enzyme to properly break down alcohol link. Certain medications work better in some races than others dolink. Why do blacks get Sickle Cell anemia more often than other groups, why are there more black people better athletes? There are some hormonal differences also. While not as great as the difference in different animals there are biologically some small differences between different races of humans, not ethnicity. Edited October 27, 2005 by mufdvr3669 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkorp Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 WTF? I didn't vote, if you're in love, race is the smallest of issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrokat Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I don't find them attractive, Im not racist. 586715057[/snapback] Who is "THEM" ? :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_kane81 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hate to tell you, but there is no such thing as race. We are all the same thing. Our so called racial features make up a mere .02% of the human genome. genes do have some influence on how intelligent we are, but how much of an influence they have is somthing for debate. Consider this our DNA really hasn't changed significantly since prehistoric times. Why is it that we would be considered more intelligent than our ancestors? It is much more likely that environmental factors, such as litteracy, improved schooling, and child-rearing techniques have all added to our ever increasing knowledge. :shifty: :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes But getting back to "interracical marriage." Regardless of skin colour or appearance, we should be with whom we love. It doesn't get any simpler than that :yes: 586715259[/snapback] :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes MARRY FOR LOVE NOT SKIN COLOR!!!!!!! People are getting so technical, but in the end you want to be with someone you love. Does the color of ones skin determines if you love a person. Well hopefully NOT. According to some scientist the children from the mixed parentage will be much intelligent and so on. I disagree on the "much intelligent" part. However greater diversity does decreases the risk of offspring getting certain genetic diseases! offspring from the same "race" are more prone to disease because of the "in breeding effect" (no flames please - im not saying that same race people are inbreeding, i'm just saying that it is more closer to it, and that another race is furthur away from it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_kane81 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 ^^^ yep there are differences! ^ Actually "race" / background can be a major issue. cultural clashes. BTW: I dont like the term "Race", I prefer "Background". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanConservative Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Who is "THEM" ? :no: 586729709[/snapback] Other races, obviously. If he's white, "them" is everyone else, black, chinese..etc...what don't you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwind Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 No difference between races? Many Asians lack an enzyme to properly break down alcohol link. Certain medications work better in some races than others dolink. Why do blacks get Sickle Cell anemia more often than other groups, why are there more black people better athletes? There are some hormonal differences also. While not as great as the difference in different animals there are biologically some small differences between different races of humans, not ethnicity. 586729635[/snapback] Hence we look at the definition of "race." Race is defined as being "a catagory of people who share biologically transmitted traits that members of a society deem socially significant. but to get back to your argument that blacks and asians are indeed different races than whites. Let's hypothetically consider the following: Suppose your friends family has a history of congenital heart failure. His father had it, his grandfather had it, and so forth. Your family does not. does that make you a different race than your friend? Suppose a white person suffers a "gene" deformity, which leaves his or her family with increased risk for Sickle cell anemia. Does this mean that this person is of a different race? by your definition, they would be of some other race. In Canada the first nations people (natives) are more susceptible to both diabetes and alcoholism. Doesn't mean that they are different from you or I. What this argument breaks down to is that if we were to break down the DNA of any random person, regardless of "race," it would be the same. Genetic flaws, such as increased susceptibility to sickle cell anemia, or an inability to efficiently break down alcohol are random events. Just like the chances of either of us being hit by lightning. Hormonal differences can also be accounted for through genetic mutations, not through a defined racial feature. As for your remark about Africans producing superior athletes, due to thier race. Again, it is much more reasonable to surmise that it is environmental influences that leads to thier sucess. Even so, African nations tend to win running events such as marathons, which require endurance. Most fair skinned people live in the northern hemisphere, where there is less light and heat. Africans are exposed to more heat and hot weather than other lighter skinned people, which would account for success in marathons. Canadians and Russians tend to be good at hockey because there is lots of ice in those places (or at least sufficient number of ice rinks). Canada has more rinks than every other country combined. Europeans dominate European football (soccer) because it is a major part of thier culture. In all of the above examples, there isn't a gene that makes any ethnic group superior at thier sport. It still remains that there is no credible scientific evidence of race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I stick to my own race. 586722746[/snapback] May i ask why? :huh: Me personally i think i've dated( :shifty: ) hispanic, white,black ( :wub: ) middle eastern, Indian, and Native american... In the end i don't see why others say they would stick to there own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_kane81 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 ^ Yeah, interesting short post from Raquel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyori Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I'm white and prefer to be with someone who's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
us3rX Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Its all pink on the inside :shifty: lol MARRY FOR LOVE NOT SKIN COLOR!!!!!!!People are getting so technical, but in the end you want to be with someone you love. Does the color of ones skin determines if you love a person. Well hopefully NOT. Enough Said^ us3rX :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Allen Veteran Posted October 27, 2005 Veteran Share Posted October 27, 2005 I could care less really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioscheine Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 My first serious girlfriend was of a different ethnicity/race/whatever. I don't see how anyone other than a racist could have a problem with it. 586711818[/snapback] same here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocstar Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Im Hispanic and all my girlfriends have been white, never met a spanish girl that likes going to rock shows with me yet haha.... so of course id get married to a girl from another race.. Obviously its not about who goes to rock shows with me, im just saying I don't meet girls from my race much :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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