why 1=0.999999999...


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Not true, it all comes down to the last 9 in the numbers. Let's say X = 0.9999 (four 9's).

10X = 9.9990 (I'll take 4 decimals for convenience)

10X - X = 9.9990 - 0.9999

9X = 8.9991

So still X = 0.9999

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So basically, in step two, you did "Ten times an infinite sequence"... You can't just move the decimal. "1" just so happens to be the limit of that infinite sequence of nines, so ten times that wouldn't give you 9.9999999... it'll only give you 10x, since x represents that sequence. Using the result of 9.99999... is incorrect since you're actaully changing what "x" represents.

Edit: ^ Long explanation relates to what Tungsten said already :D "9X is not 9"

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0.9999999 is the lower limit of one, as 1.0000000001 is the upper limit.. Learn something about limits and try that question again. I have a great one though to show how 1 = 2 though. Of couse its just a common error in algebra.

Let X = 0.9999 wrt sig figs.

10.0000X = 9.9999...

10.0000X - X = 9.9999... - 0.9999...

9.00001X = 9.0000

X = 0.9999...

now as you were saying?

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i think those perceptions really discribe what kind of person you are..

for me 1 = 1

wich makes me ignorant?

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i think it is maths not perceptions... :huh:

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Recurring Nine

I won't pretend like i remember how to prove it, but that's how. We did that in grade 12 calc... the teacher wanted to mess with our brains :p

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Yeah, the "rigorous" explantion on that page is the way I proved it... Except I think I knew that as a geometric progression, been ages since I did this... But yeah, you use geometric progression to prove it...

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Recurring Nine

I won't pretend like i remember how to prove it, but that's how. We did that in grade 12 calc... the teacher wanted to mess with our brains :p

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I'm not sure I like that page... those proofs make like 0.9r is an actual number - sorry, but it's not. It's a concept, not a number. You can't just transform the concept of infinity into a bunch of nines.

From that page:

1 - 0.9999... = 0.0000...

? ? ? ? ? ? ? = 0

? ? ? ? ? ? 1 = 0 + 0.9999...

? ? ? ? ? ? ? = 0.9999..:wacko:]

Huh? :wacko: Look @ Steps 1 - 2... 0.0:no:es not equal 0. :no:

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It's a concept, not a number.

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i think the same... a number MUST be something more realistic...

how can a concept be a number ?

when my maths teacher forced me to learn

the VIRTUALnumber i , which denotes square root of -1,

i really wanna protest to him :laugh:

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whats 1/3 - .3333333..  whats 2/3 .6666666....  whats 1/3 + 2/3 .9999...  (.6666+.3333=.9999)  so .9999 = 1

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Damn thats nice, but still 0.99r doesnt equal 1 (for me anyway)... It just cant :p

1 = 1... nothing else can there for = 1

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whats 1/3 - .3333333..?  whats 2/3 .6666666....? whats 1/3 + 2/3 .9999...? (.6666+.3333=.9999)? so .9999 = 1

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almost:D; :D 1/3 equals .3333... which is not a real number. It's a decimal representation/approximation of "a third", which can never be truly represented in numbers. .3r, like all the other "repeating decimal" numbers mentioned, are actually decimal representations of the concept of infinity.

.3r, .9r, .0r, and similar will forever go on - they can't be rounded out of convenience for the equation you're working on, they have to be preser:)d :)

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