Racism


Should racist site be allowed on the internet?  

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  1. 1. Should racist site be allowed on the internet?

    • Yes (No explanation)
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    • Yes, freedom of speech protects all forms of speech
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    • Yes, as long as it does not incite descrimination*
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    • No (no explanation)
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    • No, as Freedom of speech does not extend to racism
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    • No, it should be outright banned.
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    • I really don't care
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It is the definition of race from within a social context. While there is no such thing as biological race, it would be naieve to discredit the notion that people believe in race. Because there is no biologically discrete catagories of humans, people look for differences in the way we look in order to racially stratify people into different "racial" catagories. It is human nature to catagorize things...

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And that's why I LOVE NEOWIN. That's the place we coul'd talk about it!!!

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I'm sick of people acting like the only racism is by White people. Nearly all the crime in the US and Europe is done by non-Europeans Yet we still must scream 'diversity is great allah akbar' as both Africa and Arabia *hate* diversity.

With regards to the argument, freedom of speech should protect everything. Not just certain topics.

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I'm sick of people acting like the only racism is by White people. Nearly all the crime in the US and Europe is done by non-Europeans Yet we still must scream 'diversity is great allah akbar' as both Africa and Arabia *hate* diversity.

With regards to the argument, freedom of speech should protect everything. Not just certain topics.

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Care to cite some statistics that are from a reputable source on those crime statistics?

No, racism isn't exclusively white, but as a dominant societal group in many cultures (which do not always make up the majority population) is usually more prevalant than the racism of other cultures is. Hatred towards anyone is inexcusable under any circumstances--specifically when it incites descrimination. My use of the National Vanguard was only one example of racism in action. Other non-white examples include syria's president with regards to the Israelis; Robert Mugabe towards white farmers, and so forth. We would be here all day if we tried to list them all.

I would disagree with you on Arabic countries and Africa. Most people from those nations are very much peace loving. there are only a few extremists which hate the western world with prejudice...

You are entitled to your oppinion on free speech here, that is what I was trying to encourage. But if you are going to take a stance on somthing, please back it up with reliable sources.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH

i think we should be able to do what ever we like (within reason) after all no one forces you to go on there sites do they?

Yes. We need to keep the internet free. Censorship is bad!

:yes: i agree

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i agree hotdog.

I hate how if say a black person calls a white person something offensive we(or i, anyway) couldn't care less about it, but if a white person calls a black person something, it like becomes a different issue and people get all sensetive about it. I mean it's an equal situation here, no matter wot anyone calls eachother, it shouldn't become a worse situation just because the offended person is black.

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Racism is stupid. Color does not matter who you u.

But is it racist when you say the black people run faster than white people? Look at the world-records in running... almost all black.

Is it racist to say that black people commit more crime? The facts show that the are more blacks in prison than whites.

Is is racist to profile people when the facts clearly show trends in crime? Most terrorists attacks in the US are caused by Arabs. If it is say, 80%, then 80% of the people screened at airports need to be arabs, IMO. Is that racist?

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If your using American Government/George Bush logic, racist sites could be viewed as an act for terrorism and be shut down without reason or explanation. Trying to organize one group of people and/or persuade their way of thinking and to go against another .. sounds like terrorism to me. Of course, that will never happen.

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And to the dude that made that "black rapper" comment - I do not recall EVER hearing ANY artist make any reference toward "hating" or "oppressing" white people.

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All those saying that freedom of speech should extend in all kind of information never had suffered any kind of discrimination (racism).

Humans cannot live in a world without law and rules.

Thanks to the human stupidity.

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i agree hotdog.

I hate how if say a black person calls a white person something offensive we(or i, anyway) couldn't care less about it, but if a white person calls a black person something, it like becomes a different issue and people get all sensetive about it. I mean it's an equal situation here, no matter wot anyone calls eachother, it shouldn't become a worse situation just because the offended person is black.

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Exactly why i dont listen to alot of modern black comics, there generalizations are jsut dumb. And thisis coming from a minorty (hispanic) same thing goes for Carlos Mencia, i dont listen to him becasue of the generalizations, those suck.

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reminds me of the South Park episode where they find AIDS funny after 27.2 years or whatever.... when's the time that racism becomes funny? Laugh it up is my motto. Racism is just ignorance. Generalizing and stereotyping is the same. Carlos Mencia is funny b/c he does these things. I know they arent necessarily true and thats why i laugh. Dave Chappelle is the same way. the list goes on. laugh people :D

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Exactly why i dont listen to alot of modern black comics, there generalizations are jsut dumb. And thisis coming from a minorty (hispanic) same thing goes for Carlos Mencia, i dont listen to him becasue of the generalizations, those suck.

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These groups don't have websites that simply state "black people are stupid" for example. These groups are trying to oppress entire races. Some even promote violence toward them. This is not even a black and white thing, because it effects Black, Hispanic, Jewish, and probably even Italian, Irish and other non-WASP.

Black comics "occasionally" make fun of other races .. including their own. It's often trying to take a negative and make it into a positive. Not all jokes are tasteful, but none I ever heard promote hate.

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There are so many bad things about racism... and yet to take the freedom away is dangerous too. Its a double edged sword, and humans will never get over it. Even if racism does diminish, which I doubt, seeing as I get followed around in stores quite a bit, no matter how nice my clothing is, there will always be some new form of hate waiting in the wings to take it over. I can hope that one day humans as a whole will realize that hating someone for any reason accomplishes nothing, but I doubt we will.

There are ignorent fools in every race that for some reason believe that hating another race or considering them inferior is the correct course of action, and more than likely it will always be that way, until such time as all of us have interbred enough to make us all basically the same color. :no:

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Is it racist to say that black people commit more crime? The facts show that the are more blacks in prison than whites.

Is is racist to profile people when the facts clearly show trends in crime? Most terrorists attacks in the US are caused by Arabs. If it is say, 80%, then 80% of the people screened at airports need to be arabs, IMO. Is that racist?

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It isn't racist to say that there are more crimes commited by African Americans. But to make it sound like they are the only ones to do it is. In the states, the further south you travel, the higher the poverty; and with higher poverty there comes higher crime rates. Since people of African descent are a subordinate ethnicity in American society, many are very impoverished. With high levels of poverty comes higher levels of crime.

Another argument against the high crime statistic would be preferential treatment towards white defendants. It has also been shown in Capital crimes, "whites" are less likely to get a death sentence than "black." Statistics can lie, since they are unable to account for imbalances which societies impose on different social classes.

what I am trying to say is that it is important to remember to look at all sides of the equation before making judgement.

Racial profiling is a tricky topic. Yes, many terrorists are Arab at the moment. Yes, it is important to realize this. The dangerous part about profiling is that it can lead to stereotyping that all Arab's are terrorists. A perfect example of this was during WWII after the Americans were attacked in Pearl Harbour, most Japanese Canadians were rounded up and sent to internment camps. Why? because they were Japanese. They were all profiled as being dangers to the state.

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racism is protected by freedom of speech in the US, ie your allowed to have a personal site that says how you hate jews and whatnot. However, creating an organization that htes jews and their sole puropose is to disseminate propaganda to trick others into hating jews is NOT protected under freedom of speech, it's the creation of a terrorist organization and is a hate crime.

To use other terms, it's ok to say on a website that you hate the president and you would like to kill him if you had the chance. It's not ok to create a site that promotes hating the president and gathers people into a large group that would all want to kill the president. replace 'president' with 'blacks' and you'll understand why they're not protected by the constitution.

In Canada, racism is outright not protected, if you do anything to incite hate against a person or group you will be prosecuted if caught.

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and this is why the US will never give up the internet to the EU or UN. They suppress freedom of speech. I may not agree with what a nazi has to say but i swear i'd die for his right to say it.

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i'm also very sick of how white people have been shamed into shutting up. A black person can go around screaming "black power" and no one would give another thought to it. If a white person says white power suddenly he's a damned raciest. Also i don't put up with black people using the phrase "you're ignorant" to shut me anymore. I hate it when i see this happen, it's like the white guy is immediately shamed into shutting up and he doesn't particularly know why... because there was no reason.. I'm goign to say it here and now "I AM PROUD TO BE WHITE

Simple really isn't it, no sites promoting hate toward others for anything should be allowed.? I cant image how it could all be stopped though really without the same techniques being used to cut of legitimate forms of free speech that the government or big corporations don't agree with or what might lose them money.? Basically we are stabbed in the back nowdays whatever we do.:( :(

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and this is why the US will never give up the internet to the EU or UN. They suppress freedom of speech. I may not agree with what a nazi has to say but i swear i'd die for his right to say it.

that gave me my laugh for the day. this is why you should never do drugs, kids. if only people would stop talking out their asses and actually put forth some effort into what they have to contribute.

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and this is why the US will never give up the internet to the EU or UN. They suppress freedom of speech. I may not agree with what a nazi has to say but i swear i'd die for his right to say it.

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i'm also very sick of how white people have been shamed into shutting up. A black person can go around screaming "black power" and no one would give another thought to it. If a white person says white power suddenly he's a damned raciest. Also i don't put up with black people using the phrase "you're ignorant" to shut me anymore. I hate it when i see this happen, it's like the white guy is immediately shamed into shutting up and he doesn't particularly know why... because there was no reason.. I'm goign to say it here and now "I AM PROUD TO BE WHITE

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No one said that being "shamed into shutting up" was fair. But because of patterns of Majority-minority interactions, it ain't likely to end anytime soon, particularly in the States. When you try to assimilate a minority population into the larger majority population, there are going to be people who do not like that fact. I know that an argument to this situation is for them to just move, but most can't.

There seems to be fewer problems in more pluralistic (multi-cultural) societies, such as Canada.

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