zheng.93 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I think he should. Well for those who have no idea what this poll is about, read this: SINGAPORE, Dec 2 (Bernama) -- Singapore executed convicted Australian drug trafficker Nguyen Tuong Van at Changi Prison at dawn Friday after numerous attempts, including repeated pleas from the Australian government, to save him from the gallows proved futile. Singapore stood firm on the conviction and refused clemency for Nguyen who was sentenced to death for trafficking in 396.2gm of pure heroin in Singapore in 2002. "Mr Nguyen failed in his appeals to the Court of Appeal and to the President for clemency. The sentence was carried out this morning at Changi Prison," the Ministry of Home Affairs said in a statement at 7.08am, about an hour after the execution. Nguyen, 25, of Vietnamese descent, was charged with importation of 396.2gm of diamorphine or pure heroin into Singapore, under Section 7 of the Misuse of Drugs Act, which carries the death penalty. "Mr Nguyen was convicted as charged and sentenced to death. The Misuse of Drugs Act provides that the death penalty is mandatory if the amount of diamorphine or pure heroin imported exceeds 15gm," the ministry said. The ministry said that Nguyen had unlawfully brought into Singapore almost 400gm of diamorphine, enough to supply 26,000 doses of heroin to drug addicts. The street value of the heroin was worth an estimated S$1.3 million, it said. Nguyen's twin brother, Dang Khoa, was among dozens who kept vigil outside Changi Prison. Singapore does not allow "contact" visits between prisoners and family members as such encounters can be traumatic and are likely to destabilise the prisoners and their family members. The foreign ministry said, however, that the government had agreed on an exception basis to allow limited physical contact between Nguyen and his mother, Kim Nguyen, as well as Dang Khoa during a visit yesterday. Singapore had allowed Nguyen to hold hands with his mother and brother during the visit. Quoted from Bernama.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-Flex Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Your poll is a little biased. I'm sure many of those who would vote 'No', as I did, would prefer not pardon him, only to not see him die. I am against the death penalty, but I am not against justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmmay Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 My opinion is if you break the law knowing what the punishment is, then you should be prepared to accept that punishment if caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Death in this case, I believe, seem's a little harsh. But to deny him contact with his family before his execution, is really ****ty ! I'm all for that website banning Singapore from it's Server's !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 the mans an aussie and should be extradited to austrailia and dealt with accordingly there. atleast he'd be in jail and not dead. singapore is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kl33per Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 He should be hanged, because that is the law in Singapore. Do I agree with the law, no, but I respect that it is Singapore's right to create and enfore their own laws, and deal out their own punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLCorndog Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 yes, hang him..... hang them all!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixotic Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 The law seems very harsh but he was trafficking almost 400 grams of pure heroine and into Singapore! He should have known what he was getting himself into. He was just asking for it. Even if you do believe that the law is harsh; Singapore is its own country and has its own laws and other countries must respect those laws. If he didn't want to deal with the consequences, he should not have been trafficking drugs PERIOD Ryan --------- The welts of your scorn, my love, give me more Send whips of opinion down my back, give me more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardo Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I wonder if there would be an impact on drug supply if European Nations or the US imposed some kind of law like this - whereby if you are caught trafficing >= X amount of a drug there is only one sentence - death... It could be justified that killing one major trafficer can save "countless" users/victims. More importantly, it might make suppliers think twice if the death sentence is enforced hard-and-fast - as it is appears to be in Singapore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 In my opinion no one has the right to take someone else's life, especially not for something like drug trafficking he wasn't forcing people to go to drugs he wasn't making people "disappear" he was just selling to people who made a life choice to buy. He should have got a Prison sentence and then probation not hanging. I think they did it to make an example out of him since he was Australian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 glad to see the singaporeans did the RIGHT thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted December 6, 2005 MVC Share Posted December 6, 2005 While I don't think he should have been executed, he deserved to spend a good amount of his life in jail. With the way dugs destroy lives, he might as well be considered a murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.M.K Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 He should be hanged, because that is the law in Singapore. Do I agree with the law, no, but I respect that it is Singapore's right to create and enfore their own laws, and deal out their own punishments. I think you are spot on! I don't think he should have died for what he did, but should have spent along time in jail. But is it true that the amount of H he was carrying was about 75,000 hits worth?? Just think how many people could have OD'd on the stuff if he got back to Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ventrox Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 he deserved punishment, but not death i'm agains death penalty... in what position are we to decide who lives or dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuz Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 My opinion is if you break the law knowing what the punishment is, then you should be prepared to accept that punishment if caught. He should be hanged, because that is the law in Singapore. Do I agree with the law, no, but I respect that it is Singapore's right to create and enfore their own laws, and deal out their own punishments. The law seems very harsh but he was trafficking almost 400 grams of pure heroine and into Singapore! He should have known what he was getting himself into. He was just asking for it. Even if you do believe that the law is harsh; Singapore is its own country and has its own laws and other countries must respect those laws. If he didn't want to deal with the consequences, he should not have been trafficking drugs PERIOD Ryan --------- The welts of your scorn, my love, give me more Send whips of opinion down my back, give me more all of u r correct agrree 100%...he faces the consequneces of his action for a crim committed in SINGAPORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) The damn media make *him* out to be the Victim, not the Perpetrator Victim of trafficking enough drugs to OD 120,000 people (reportedly) into Singapore where they clearly state on their Visa forms that drug traffickers will be hanged. He did it to try to pay off the debts of his twin brother who once attacked a guy with a machete. I feel sorry for his mother, but what kind of people are we dealing with here?? Edited December 6, 2005 by Quick Reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-Flex Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 The damn media make *him* out to be the Victim, not the Perpetrator Victim of trafficking enough drugs to OD 120,000 people (reportedly) into Singapore where they clearly state on their Visa forms that drug traffickers will be hanged. He did it to try to pay off the debts of his twin brother who once attacked a guy with a machete. I feel sorry for his mother, but what kind of people are we dealing with here?? 120,000? That sounds incredibly high. And even if it were true, they would be counting if every single use was an overdose. Don't try to portray him as a mass murderer. I am a staunch opponent of drugs and the drug trafficking done by this man, but in no way should this man be executed. However, for Australians to only care for his execution, while others are killed as well, is ignorant and self-serving, oppurtunistic if you will. I will not pretend that I can change the Singaporean laws nor do I pretend that there is any force that can that would have saved Nguyen. He knew the laws and broke them. Simple as that. He is guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.M.K Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 1% of the 120,000 is to high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doli Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I see that this poll is a bit of a spin off of the website banning Singapore but in that thread someone posted that the guy was forced to go there because of a loan shark, i dont know if that is true or not, but if it was true how would you guys feel about it. That would be very unfortunate if that post is true and the guy was forced to go there or die by the loan shark. We will never know the whole truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phoenix Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 im not to sure why the media made him out to be a victim (was all over the TV here,mass meetings at churchs,candles lit ect) seeing he was a criminal,but he should have gone to jail for the rest of his life in australia (or atleasted a good deal of it),not killed without much contact with his family in a different land,thats abit rough in my books.rapists,murderers and crazyfrog fans on the otherhand i dont think should live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the godfather Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 the laws the law, face the consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I think you are spot on! I don't think he should have died for what he did, but should have spent along time in jail. But is it true that the amount of H he was carrying was about 75,000 hits worth?? Just think how many people could have OD'd on the stuff if he got back to Australia. The damn media make *him* out to be the Victim, not the Perpetrator Victim of trafficking enough drugs to OD 120,000 people (reportedly) into Singapore where they clearly state on their Visa forms that drug traffickers will be hanged. He did it to try to pay off the debts of his twin brother who once attacked a guy with a machete. I feel sorry for his mother, but what kind of people are we dealing with here?? Nope, it's 26000 hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zheng.93 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Share Posted December 6, 2005 Maybe Singapore should have let them have a hug, but any crime committed in Singapore will be dealt the Singapore way. I know that in Austrailla abolishes the death penalty, and a person convicted of carrying 10-20kg of drugs is only sentenced to life inprisonment, but in Singapore, anyone caught carrying 15g or more will face the death penaty. Most Singaporeans and Singapore still belive in this principle of lex talionis (a life for a life) Please go to www.todayonline.com and read page 2 of the online newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Yeah I think the 120000 was a bit fishy (thus I said reportedly because I heard it on TV). 26000 sounds more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Um, he was already hanged and there's a huge thread in RWI about this. https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=401105 Closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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