Raum Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Curious as to what people will say in their posts. I can already make a pretty safe estimate of what the polls will show. I've just seen a lot of hypocrisy on these boards regarding drug users. I'd wager ever single person on this board has had a moment in their life where they've gotten down in the dumps and looked towards something for comfort. There seems to be a thin line between what you people will accept others doing and vice versa, and it seems many of you will actually think less of a person that does these types of substances. Another interesting note is the amount of people I've seen classify drugs and alcohol into seperate categories. Either way, please be elaborative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I never took any illegal substance. I don't consider alcohol a drug in my case cause I do it once in a while but when I do, hohoho make way! I look down on the addicts, who always do it, who put lots of money into it on a regular basis, basically throwing their lives away. I have many friends who take all sorts of drugs but they do it on special occasions and I told each and every one of them as that if you become an addict, I'll kick you in the nuts. Take anything (almost) you want that's fine but please oh please, not in excess or you'll regret it sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 I never took any illegal substance. I don't consider alcohol cause I do it once in a while but when I do, hohoho make way! So alcohol isn't a drug because you do it? So what is there to prevent every single drug addict in the world from using this logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1cked-J Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 closest thing to drugs that I have taken is caffeine..... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 So alcohol isn't a drug because you do it? So what is there to prevent every single drug addict in the world from using this logic? Well, with drugs, it's a whole different world.Can you trust what you consume? Do you know what it's really made of, talking about stuff like speed/xtc, crack/cocain. Alcohol is something you can trust. When you drink Stolichnaya, you know you're drinking vodka and nothing else. Speed or xtc can be made of stuff as silly and dangerous as battery acid. Cocain can be any weird white powder in a certain percentage so they can make more cash. Marijuana well, it seems that some ppl know from who to buy because some sell "cheap weed". I trust liquor, not street drugs. Do you know your limits? Drug overdose ain't funny but when someone's drunk, almost all the time he's just lying on the ground and eventually he'll wake up, vomit and be ok. Isn't that how all parties end up? Some of these consumers who don't care and take drugs cluelessly don't know what they're getting into, yet many seem to enjoy it at Raves or whatnot and everytime, theres a few who are paying the ultimate price and of course regular consumers seem to go on and continue til it happens to them. That's the problem, they don't care if others suffer but when it will hit them, then they'll think twice before popping another pill or snorting some white powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Lamar Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I don't unless they are seriously hooked on it, street junkies, crackheads, all that stuff that goes with it. It's not my business what the next person does, if they wanna get their drug on, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpit Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 (edited) i don't unless they willingly and consciously choose to do it i definitely look down on drug distributors/sellers Edited December 31, 2005 by Syntax Error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 Well, with drugs, it's a whole different world. Can you trust what you consume? Do you know what it's really made of, talking about stuff like speed/xtc, crack/cocain. Alcohol is something you can trust. When you drink Stolichnaya, you know you're drinking vodka and nothing else. Speed or xtc can be made of stuff as silly and dangerous as battery acid. Cocain can be any weird white powder in a certain percentage so they can make more cash. Marijuana well, it seems that some ppl know from who to buy because some sell "cheap weed". I trust liquor, not street drugs. Do you know your limits? So would you like to explain to me how keeping drugs in the illegal black market and out of government controlled facilities does anything to negate this type of behaviour found in the drug world? Alcohol is consistent because it is legal and government regulated, the opossite is true for illegal substances. I think I see a connection here. A theoretical one, yes, but one I think is true. As far as self-control goes, that has very little to do with the substance from what I've seen. For me, it's varied from person to person. I've only gotten drunk twice, and each time I seemed to be able to tell my limits and such...kept myself at a nice, comfortable buzz but didn't do overkill. I know people that you just need to watch them when they're at the bottle, or they'll end up doing what you said, getting dizzy, puking their ass off then passing out. As far as Marijuana goes, which is the only drug I use on a regular basis, the only effects I've had from smoking what I consider to be "too much" would be passing out and having incredibly long, vivid dreams that I remembered very well, as well as waking up stoned. I have had one or two friends start to feel motion sick after smoking too much, but this seems to be pretty rare. Drug buying is a dangerous game, and I really wish the government would just legalise and regulate these things for the safety of those that will continue to do them whether it's illegal or not. I myself would rather not smoke at all than get my materials from a shady source. It's not worth it to me. @Krazy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive (Look at all the wonderful psychoactive drugs caffeine is grouped with) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0nic69 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 i dumped my last GF because she got really into drugs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzbling Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 No, I don't look down on drug users or the like. My full time job is a Drug & Alcohol Councelor for Teenagers at a 24/7 live in facility where I live. If anything, I pitty them, kids at least, for the unfortunate events in their life and the fact that their family either ignored the signs, condoned it, or simply turned their backs on them. The saddest part is when we have to release our clients back into the same enviroment they came from, and cross our fingers or prey they learned enough to resist the relapse and temptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 (edited) I just don't get the social stigma surrounding drugs. You see some woman get into debt buying a bunch of things she doesn't need (Clothes, shoes etc) and you just look at her as foolish with her spending habits. If someone spends too much money on coke and gets into debt, they're all the sudden a parasite to society, an evil, someone who should be jailed. Someone gets dumped, feels depressed, shuts down and doesn't talk to anyone and starts cutting himself. He's just someone going through hard times who needs a helping hand. Someone gets dumped, feels depressed and instead of using cutting as their release they take X drug. They're a filth, a non-productive member of society, someone who should be treated as a criminal and given minimal mercy. Why such hatred towards people who choose drugs as their vice as opossed to other things? No, I don't look down on drug users or the like. My full time job is a Drug & Alcohol Councelor for Teenagers at a 24/7 live in facility where I live. If anything, I pitty them, kids at least, for the unfortunate events in their life and the fact that their family either ignored the signs, condoned it, or simply turned their backs on them. The saddest part is when we have to release our clients back into the same enviroment they came from, and cross our fingers or prey they learned enough to resist the relapse and temptation. I know what you mean. I've had a lot of close friends just drift away and get real into drugs. I'd say well over four fifth's of the people that used to skateboard back in the day when I started (8th grade) had given it up for drugs by the time I was a senior in high school. So many people are more interested in doing coke rather than going to a skatepark nowadays. Edited December 31, 2005 by Raum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuz Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 i don't unless they willingly and consciously choose to do it i definitely look down on drug distributors/sellers yep rite on themoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy07 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Only at people who don't take the chance to help themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waddle5000 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 i only look down on them if drugs have changes their lives and their personality. one of my best friends is a drug user but i dont look down on him because he is a cool guy but others are just ###### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I do look down.. to an extent depending on the person. There are a few "druggies" in our school who always come stoned and act like complete idiots, fail all their clases.. Its a waste of a good life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigley0 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 @Krazy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive (Look at all the wonderful psychoactive drugs caffeine is grouped with) last time i checked, Caffene isn't illegal. I only have issues with people doing illegal things. If pot was legal, then I say go for it! I do consider alcohol do be dangerous, but, do it smartly. I never drink and drive. a) because it is stupid. b) because it is illegal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 last time i checked, Caffene isn't illegal. I only have issues with people doing illegal things. If pot was legal, then I say go for it! I do consider alcohol do be dangerous, but, do it smartly. I never drink and drive. a) because it is stupid. b) because it is illegal! Seems kind of a bad way to guide your opinion if you ask me. Cocaine used to be prescribed for insomnia and depression and was perfectly legal. Marijuana was legal for more than the first half of our Nations history. Hell, right now I can walk into a store and buy a smoking pipe and some Salvia D extract, smoke it and hallucinate. All perfectly legal. Legal or not, Caffeine is still a psychoactive substance in a similar family to many socially stigmatized drugs, which was my point. Something that is addictive and has side-effects is actuall ypromoted and advertised, while other substances of similar qualities are considered to make people a waste of life. I consider it hypocrisy myself. Another note to consider is our laws never have been absolutely perfect. Yes, the majority of our laws are good guidelines IMO, and serve useful purposes, but I don't think your opinions should be based solely on them, that's were I'm comin from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinmeister Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yes. Users of illegal drugs should be executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 ^.......agree Do you look down upon drug users? F**K yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yes. Users of illegal drugs should be executed. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Drugs = (N). People who do drugs = (N)+(N). The only good drugs are the ones that are prescriptioned for medical needs. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trance Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 No, because it is their life, their bodies. I don't care if they "throw their lives away"... why you might ask? Because it is it their life to do with as they see fit. Many people throw away their lives in other ways without using drugs. Would I care if it was family? Yes... but again, their life, not mine. Do I do drugs? Nope... do I drink? Sometimes. Would I kick my kids ass if they did, you bet I would. But in the end, their life too. All you can do is educate, and remember, all things in moderation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 People, your opinion is rather worthless if all you say is you look down on drug users. If that's all you're going to say, just vote and leave it at that. Please be elaborative, this thread was intended for discussion, not a list of answers. More than happy to hear all of your opinions, whether you're against drug users or not....but just saying two words doesn't progress discussion very far. Thank you. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Why? less crime due to drugs, less babies w/ side effect/misscarages....more importantly less stupid people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinmeister Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Why? Because I say so, and I am the vassal of YHWH, your Lord and creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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