AltecXP Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 People, your opinion is rather worthless if all you say is you look down on drug users. If that's all you're going to say, just vote and leave it at that. Please be elaborative, this thread was intended for discussion, not a list of answers. More than happy to hear all of your opinions, whether you're against drug users or not....but just saying two words doesn't progress discussion very far. Thank you. :) Elaborate on what? WHY you think they are ****? Should be self explanatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brotherrabbit Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Drug use before your college career, is just wasted drug use :) College / University is the time to do it :) And some remain into the daily lifes of us all How can you look down on drug users? Drugs are everywhere, even more so in children, LEGALLY. Down with chemical altering drugs, up with natural goodness :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 less crime due to drugs, less babies w/ side effect/misscarages....more importantly less stupid people. If drugs were legalized, they would be cheaper and off the streets. The War On Drugs hasn't even come close to reducing drug-related crime to the degree this could, in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mat Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 My opinion: I don't look down upon any person because your no better than them. Sure they have a legal drug problem that's looked down by society. But I'm sure you have some sort of equally horrible thing resting on your shouldars. Noone is to judge who is better than another person. By looking down on these people you are making a modern class system that will degrade these people even more, making it harder for them to pass this threshold between their lives and the lives they want to really like like mine and yours. I have tonnes of friends who use drugs, but only once in a while and they haven't changed as people. After all, that's all that really matters, who you are, not what you do. If a saint was on drugs, would this contradict everything he has ever done? No, it would only prove once and for all that good people do things out of character every once in a while. So no, I don't look down at these people, I don't pity them, and I don't sympathize with them. For if they are nice people and they get by and aren't in need of help. Then to me, they are good people. And no i don't use drugs personally, so my opinion is not bias towards these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 If drugs were legalized, they would be cheaper and off the streets. The War On Drugs hasn't even come close to reducing drug-related crime to the degree this could, in theory. So? If you cant deal w/ your problems on your own and feel the need to go out and get drugs (non-perscribed) your better off killing yourself IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 So? If you cant deal w/ your problems on your own and feel the need to go out and get drugs (non-perscribed) your better off killing yourself IMO. Well, then what should we do about people too stupid and ignorant to realize that just because you do a drug does not mean you cannot handle life or wish to escape reality? Using your line of thinking, people who need anti-depressants should be killed because they are reliant on a drug for their happiness essentially. It's pretty grossly presumptuous of you to think that anyone who does illegal drugs is dependant on them. In my experience, those reliant on them are the vast minority. Yes, I do have 'friends' who will steal from me to go buy themselves some coke, but most of my drug using friends heavily look down upon people with this kind of behaviour. I just had a discussion last night with a friend who does marijuana and coke about how ****ed we each are how others value getting ****ed up over friendship. Keep in mind both me and that friend are illegal substance abusers, yet we both feel respecting a friendship is ALWAYS more important than getting your drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trance Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 In additon to what I said previously... what gives you or anyone the right to judge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung1616 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Just the ones lying in the gutter, it's either get down to their level or look down on them. Cody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Just the ones lying in the gutter, it's either get down to their level or look down on them. Cody Four letters. WWJD. (the following is not directed at anyone in specific) Essentially what it comes down to, is ALL of us go astray from our correct path in life and make bad decisions. I made this thread to exemplify what I feel is far too many people ready to point their fingers at others, when they should be pointing at themselves. No, not all drug users are making the best decisions in life, but neither are you. The fact that their bad decisions involve illegal substances seems to give many of you the feeling that despite your own flaws and poor decisions, you are justified in thinking that you are superior. I really wonder how many of you consider yourself Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Just depends on the type of drug really. I don't look down on anyone who smokes pot drinks alchohol sensibly but anyone addicted to any harder drug I probably look down on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinmeister Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 In additon to what I said previously... what gives you or anyone the right to judge? The fact that I am better than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Well, then what should we do about people too stupid and ignorant to realize that just because you do a drug does not mean you cannot handle life or wish to escape reality? Using your line of thinking, people who need anti-depressants should be killed because they are reliant on a drug for their happiness essentially. I have NEVER heared of a person that didnt do a drug because it didnt in some way make them feel "better". and are you not smart enougth to see that I wrote "(non-perscribed)"??? ok then STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trix Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 only the heavy users who i know it's changing their life to the worse; otherwise if one or two of my mates decide to have a smoke doesn't really bother me much because i know there not addicts and it isn't messing up their lifes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung1616 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Four letters. WWJD. (the following is not directed at anyone in specific) Essentially what it comes down to, is ALL of us go astray from our correct path in life and make bad decisions. I made this thread to exemplify what I feel is far too many people ready to point their fingers at others, when they should be pointing at themselves. No, not all drug users are making the best decisions in life, but neither are you. The fact that their bad decisions involve illegal substances seems to give many of you the feeling that despite your own flaws and poor decisions, you are justified in thinking that you are superior. I really wonder how many of you consider yourself Christians. Jesus would probably say get up, clean up and sin no more. I'm not the savior of the world and don't go around telling others how to live their lives. They want to do stupid things then more power to them. I look down on no one not even people to dense to see a pun when it hits them between the eyes. Cody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 I have NEVER heared of a person that didnt do a drug because it didnt in some way make them feel "better". and are you not smart enougth to see that I wrote "(non-perscribed)"??? ok then STFU. Keep resorting to flames, they're terribly effective arguements. I saw the non-prescribed, but my analogy is still correct, whether you want to see that or not. Someone taking anti-depressants, desapite whether they're prescribed, is still dependant on them to feel good. So are many Heroine users. Most everyone I know that has tried shrooms or LSD did it to see what it was like. People that did it again just like experiencing that altered mindstate. This is what most drug users come down to. The wish to alter their mindstate. Not simply because it's "better," that's far too black and white. It's simply different. Think of it this way. You have your set of emotions. Would you really want to constantly be hapy? Constantly be sad? You wouldn't have an appreciation for happiness if that's all you knew, now would it? Most drug users in my experience are along this line of thinking. Yes, I like tripping here and there or having a marijuana buzz, alter my mindstate...but I also enjoy sobriety just as much. I do not depend on sobriety or highness for happiness, I can experience joy or suffering in either mindset. The purpose is not to try and force happiness upn myself, but simply to give myself a different lens in which to view my world. It's like getting to see the world through the eyes of a different person, to a degree. If you could do this, you'd probably like to see the world from your wife's perspective from a day. It's nice getting to see things differently, gain new expeirences and insights into the wonder we call reality. This is very different from trying to escape reality...rather, it's exploring it and wishing to find new areas yet undiscovered. @Cody: I saw it, I'm just trying to show people something. You can look down on these people, which solves nothing, or you can try and help them. That's what I meant by WWJD. He wouldn't look at a drug user say say, "Wow, what evil and wickedness! Be baished to hell, oh great sinner!" Which is what many people in this thread (Not saying you think this way) seem to feel. I think if God is real, he would be much more sympathetic to the person in the gutter than the man who walks by, turning his nose up and feeling superior in himself. Just a thought. You can go on convincing yourself you're better than everyone under the sun, but when it comes down to it, we're all in the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christracy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yes. Users of illegal drugs should be executed. bit harsh? I have NEVER heared of a person that didnt do a drug because it didnt in some way make them feel "better". and are you not smart enougth to see that I wrote "(non-perscribed)"??? ok then STFU. i'm sure you have read of people on prescribed drugs committing crimes as well so should they be executed too? and those that say alcohol is not a drug because its legal keep telling urself that. no such thing as an alcoholic oh and there are no crimes because of drunk driving. i bet those people need to be executed to right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Frett Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I don't look down on anybody. I'm not better than any human and their not better than me. Sad that people are so quick to judge others. If I ever look down on anybody, it'll be the people that think they are better than someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinmeister Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 bit harsh? i'm sure you have read of people on prescribed drugs committing crimes as well so should they be executed too? and those that say alcohol is not a drug because its legal keep telling urself that. no such thing as an alcoholic oh and there are no crimes because of drunk driving. i bet those people need to be executed to right? Uh... yes. Are you trying to be sarcastic with me? It doesn't work when I actually agree with these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christracy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Uh... yes. Are you trying to be sarcastic with me? It doesn't work when I actually agree with these things. should alcohol be treated as illegal drugs as well then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 If we executed all those who took the wrong turn in life and resorted to these things to try and support themselves / find happiness, yo uknow what we'd do? Eventually, we'd kill of the human race. This is an action I believe we are ALL guilty of, people just pick different outlets. One person might turn to the bottle, another to the joint, and yet a third to sex. We all find things to try and take our mind off our own misery to improve our state of mind. Anyone who listens to a "happy" song when they are feeling sad is the equivelant of someone getting drunk when they feel sad, they're just handling themselves in am ore responsible and less damaging manner. But again, they're still one and the same course of action, and you people would do good to realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinmeister Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 should alcohol be treated as illegal drugs as well then? Whilst it is legal, no. However, I believe it should be made illegal to be intoxicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christracy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Whilst it is legal, no. However, I believe it should be made illegal to be intoxicated. have you ever been intoxicated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Whilst it is legal, no. However, I believe it should be made illegal to be intoxicated. In our current state of laws, I would agree. I feel Alcohol should be treated along the lines of pot and so forth. I feel they should either all be legal, or all illegal. I prefer legal, but I am not that deluded in thinking that will become a reality anytime soon. Good luck enforcing Prohibition 2.0 though. Be about as effective as the ban on marijuana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I do not condone drug use in any way, but I think jail time for people that are caught with some on them isn't what prison was made for. I myself have been down a fairly bad path, and finally got myself out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0nic69 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 have you ever been intoxicated? i think he is right now..... :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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