Do you look down upon drug users?


Do you look down upon drug users?  

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  1. 1. Do you look down upon drug users?

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have you ever been intoxicated?

Yes, many a time, but that's currently legal. I also smoke, which I think should also be made illegal.

The thing is, I act responsibly whilst drunk, whilst many people don't. I would be willing to deprieve myself of the pleasure for the greater good.

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Personally, I do not look down upon drug users. I feel sorry for the people that rely on it for medical reasons, and I feel sad for the people that rely on it to get "high" or intoxicated. I feel that drugs should be used for medical purposes. It shouldn't be used to be abused. It's also one of the factors of crime. People do bad things when they're under the influence of drugs. I have met people that just live to get high. They have nothing else to do with their time other than waiting for their next chance to get high. I guess I'm inclined to be abit biased because I have never used drugs (other than medical drugs) or drank alcohol.

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I don't make judgements based on one factor alone, like they are "druggies = loser". on the contrary... i've known/know ppl who use "drugs" on a recreational basis and they are happy and have successful lives and i've also meet/know ppl who have never done drugs who are butt-stupid, have issues, and/or do the most illogical things that makes u think if they did do drugs least they would have a good excuse for acting moronic.

so NO

BTW.. i have done my fair share of drugs and drinking in the past... i've been there, done that, and can speak from experience rather than from a glass paned house so to speak.

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Section, I know what you mean by people that live to get high. Those types bother me as well.

There are a lot of drugs though that I haven't seen in having a connection to crime as far as their effects go, such as marijuana. Now, if you tried driving after taking LSD, this would probably lead you to do something illegal.

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Don't look down on drug users - I think that the ones who are hooked are really in a sad shape. I do look down on drug dealers - I think they should get a two strikes-your-out policy. Give them one chance to stop - after that, it's life.

Whilst it is legal, no. However, I believe it should be made illegal to be intoxicated.

Um, you're crazy? There are quite a few people who can handle themselves quite well while intoxicated. I do think it should be more of a social taboo to serve people who are intoxicated alcohol.

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Marijuana can distort ones perception of reality. Now, that may influence someone to commit a crime but that depends on the persons reaction to the drug. In my area there have been several marijuana related shootings. The police even came down and told most of the people that live in the neighbourhood. I may be wrong but that's the way I see it.

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I used to think that drugs were bad. Until I grew up, and realized that the only reason I thought they were bad was because that's what my mommy and daddy told me. I judge no one, but the people that are addicted and don't want to get better need help. BTW, the only drug that I use is alcohol, but I'm responsible with it; i.e. no driving.

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Yes, many a time, but that's currently legal. I also smoke, which I think should also be made illegal.

The thing is, I act responsibly whilst drunk, whilst many people don't. I would be willing to deprieve myself of the pleasure for the greater good.

You are a fool.

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Yes, I look down on people who do drugs and tell it to their face too. If you're willingly doing drugs as a form of entertainment or social activity, you are an idiot. If you do it because you're depressed or stressed out, you're still an idiot. If you depand on drugs for physical medical reasons, you are excused and I hope you get better.

I just don't get the social stigma surrounding drugs. You see some woman get into debt buying a bunch of things she doesn't need (Clothes, shoes etc) and you just look at her as foolish with her spending habits. If someone spends too much money on coke and gets into debt, they're all the sudden a parasite to society, an evil, someone who should be jailed. Someone gets dumped, feels depressed, shuts down and doesn't talk to anyone and starts cutting himself. He's just someone going through hard times who needs a helping hand. Someone gets dumped, feels depressed and instead of using cutting as their release they take X drug. They're a filth, a non-productive member of society, someone who should be treated as a criminal and given minimal mercy.

I can tell you what the difference is man... People who waste their money on merchandice are only feeding corporate America, the metaphorical criminals. People who buy drugs are feeding the real criminals. Women who get in shopping network debt file bankrubcy. Women who get hooked on coke become prostetutes. People who cut themselves are people who cut themselves, and I don't sleep any worse at night over it. People who are desparate for drugs pick up a gun, and I do sleep worse at night over it. If someone drinks next to me I couldn't care less, because that person is only harming himself, unless the off chance he starts driving and has an accident. People who smoke next to me are polluting my lungs with second hand smoke, even if they don't outright kill anyone that night. That is the difference. Drugs are complete ****ing filth.

It's disguasting that something like that can get to the stage of being even quaestioned as a legitimate social pass time. Hell lets just go Africa and give each other AIDS! We've all dying anyway, RIGHT???

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The only drugs that I don't look down upon or both alcohol and marijuana. While I don't smoke pot myself, a lot of my friends do, I can enjoy myself without it, and I don't like the idea of inhaling smoke, my lungs aren't exactly strong, and I don't need something pushing them back even further. The problem with harder drugs is that most of them tend to be damaging towards the body, while one use may not do it, repeated use has shown that the body can be severly affected, and flashbacks are common.

One of the problems that I do have with marijuana though is that it is a gateway drug. Most people don't go onto the dangerous drugs (LSD, shrooms, heroine) after getting drunk a bunch of times, but if they get stoned a bunch of times, they are far less reluctant to try something harder. I have a friend whose life is ruined (From my point of view) because of drugs, he has trouble remembering the reason he is in the room that he is in, nevermind the task at hand. If he had never tried marijuana, I can almost guarantee that he wouldn't have become a coke addict, while if he had stuck to alcohol, he probably never would have tried coke in the first place.

So while I don't look down on alcohol or marijuana users, I do look down upon users of harder drugs.

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Drugs = (N).

People who do drugs = (N)+(N).

The only good drugs are the ones that are prescriptioned for medical needs. :p

You mean the nontaxible drugs?

Seriously the majority of prescribed drugs are just as or more harmful than most illegal drugs.

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Yes, many a time, but that's currently legal. I also smoke, which I think should also be made illegal.

The thing is, I act responsibly whilst drunk, whilst many people don't. I would be willing to deprieve myself of the pleasure for the greater good.

and if they made drinking illegal you would stop and say everyone that gets intoxicated should be excuted? right?

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Definately. My seizure medicationa nd anti-depressants caused all sorts of problems with me...headaches, vomiting, long-erections I had no control of, artificial feeling emotions (IE, I'd feel like I should be sad, but I wouldn't be able to).

Marijauana, aside from the act of smoking which could be wiped out by baking the marijuana instead of smoking it, hasn't given me any noticable negative side effects.

Many of you spend your nights sober and playing videogames. I often spend my nights getting really high then reading books or spending hours educating myself on wikipedia. Not all drug users just like to cruise around and get ****ed up and be high.

I've yet to meet someone who has physically harmed someone due to their drug addiction. The worst case of this type of bahaviour I have seen is people selling their possessions (Games, DVD's etc) for drug $$, or stealing from stores to buy their drugs. I'm not saying this is good behaviour at all...I'm just showing you that not every cokehead decides to go shoot people up for their wallets.

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According to some people here....you should be executed, or at least thrown in jail forever. I'm glad you have just proved that people can do drugs and still be good citizens / productive members of society. Anyone here heard the song "The Irony of it All?" by The Streets? Good song that proves some points here.

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LSD and Marijuana have both have histories of being popular in academic circles as well as between doctors and other high-paying professions that require a serious education.

Yet these people are a blight on society.

Wikipedia: scientific studies have demonstrated users under the influence of alcohol are far more likely to commit violent crimes than users under the influence of most illegal drugs

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Good post, please format it though lol.

I think it depends more on the person than the drug.

If I had to choose a drug which I though was creating the most problems and hurt for people I would say alchohol. I can't believe some of you people don't even class it as a drug lol.

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Hey I am not saying that everyone who lays their hand on a joint ends up a serial killer... My post is just discussing the extremes, which I do believe I've cited correctly. Let's just say that typically a lot more crack ###### would go prostetute themselves than women who want shopping money. And typically a lot more crackheads would pick up a gun to rob me than someone people who are depressed... And I haven't been fed anything dude, I've seen the real world... And got offered free heroine at parties... And was depressed enough to pick up a gun before... But never resorted to that filth.

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using the whole weed as a gateway drug is an old myth, if he has the disposition to try these things then he would have tried them anyway... Admittedly, there is LESS of a chance because he might not be in circles where that happens but then he got there in the first place to smoke weed so he would have done anyway... are you running out to do coke just because you smoke weed?

Statistics say you're wrong. My thesis was on the topic of legalization of Marijuana.

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Yes because I have no pity for those too ignorant to wanting and trying to quit. The same goes for obese people. No motivation for the want to improve your health is simply pathetic.

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For every action there is a reaction so to look down on anybody for their faults makes you an even smaller person than them. I had unfortunate instances in my life that led to drug use. My parents split up at a very young age and the lack of a father figure in my life left a vacant space in my heart. This in no way condones drugs, because they have only been a catalyst in bad life decisions. There were some good posts in here regarding the issue as well as many ignorant ones and it's truly sad that 90% of the world has to experience things themselves to truly understand a situation.

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The whole stigma attached to Drug Use/Abuse is definitely a social one - society, in general, looks down on those that use and/or abuse Drugs & Controlled Substances for several reasons:

1) Lack of self-control - you gain a physiological and psychological demand and addiction to the substance.

2) Deaths attributed to overdose - showing an even stronger demand and addiction to the substance and lack of self-control.

3) Drug Use/Abuse (including Alcohol) affects judgement and has a direct effect on a person's psychological state, and has been proven to do direct damage to vital organs.

4) Drug Culture - seedy-looking, glazed expressions, lack of care and personal hygeine are the most common denominator of Drug Users

5) Rebellion & Anarchy - most people who are regular Drug Users espouse such views as Governmental Overthrow, Anarchy and tossing away all laws except the humanist "Do No Harm" anthem - all so they can get their "high"

6) Putting their drug habit above all other things - this is, sadly, the most socially prevalent problem with Drug Use/Abuse - people putting "the score" above everything else in their lives, including their loved-ones, themsevles, and anyone who gets in their way of making "the score".

7) Apathy - The majority of Drug Users/Abusers are generally apathetic to everything not associated with obtaining and using their crutch-of-choice.

The hard facts: Drug Use/Abuse is a crutch. It's an escape. It's a way of covering up and numbing yourself to the real problems that exist in your life. Drugs do not solve "the problem", they are not the answer to "the problem", and in many cases make "the problem" infinitely worse because "the problem" isn't being dealt with.

Now, specifically to "weed", "pot" or whatever you wish to call it: you can go on denying the fact that your smoking pot *does* affect you because you're not seeing any immediate effects - what you're not seeing is that the effects of Marijuana are cumulative. You are killing brain-cells on a daily basis every time you "toke-up". Clinical studies have unequivically shown that the use of Canibas in all of it's forms has a definite and directly observable negative impact on the user. For example:

Cannabis and Legalization Issues in the United Kingdom:

Effects of Marijuana - from Narconon

Health On The Net - Marijuana Linked to Schizophrenia, Depression

If you think that smoking pot isn't harmfull, then you're delusional and in total denial just to feed your habit. The propaganda spewed by NorML is self-serving, and the studies they cite concerning the safety of Canibas use are extremely outdated and inaccurate in comparison to the more recent clinical studies.

There are many solid, socialogical reason why Controlled Substances are not legal unless presribed by your doctor - such as people using drugs while driving, operating heavy machinery and being generally careless because they're stoned or hallucinating.

If you feel that you need *any* chemical or substance that is not prescribed by a medical professional to "make me feel better" or to cover-up "a moment in their life where (you've) gotten down in the dumps and looked towards something for comfort" - sorry, Raum, but if your life is that crappy that you need a hit or two a day to get by (or anyone for that matter), then you need to do some SERIOUIS re-examination of your life, your choices and what is actually causing those feelings and what might appear to be a slight bit of depression (IANADOAMP - I am Not A Doctor Or A Medical Professional) instead of just covering it up with an artificial release from your cares.

FYI: I have Degenerative Disc Disease and have 1lbs of Titanium in my back where my L5-S1 disc was removed and fused. I suffer with Radiculopathy in my left leg due to damage to the Sciatic Nerve caused by the severe herniation of that L5-S1 disc. I also have been recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia - before all of this I was a fairly active & healthy 35-year-old guy - the downward spiral started then and I've made it to 45. I have a newborn son who has Cystic Fibrosis and probably won't live to see his 40th birthday if he's lucky, and probably has 2 full lung transplants in his future. If anyone on this board or anywhere else has a reason to be at "a moment in their life where they've gotten down in the dumps and looked towards something for comfort" it's me...and you don't see me looking for it at the end of a roach-clip or a bottle.

Here's some info: Life is rough. No one is perfect, and nothing in your life will go exactly as you want it to. At times, life will suck, and it will even get worse at times. It will also get better, and finding comfort via a chemical substitute is not the answer. Family, Friends and loved-ones are an infinitely better way of dealing with life.

--ScottKin

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I'm not a drug user (apart from caffeine and ocassionally alcohol), but I'm of the opinion that anyone should be able to do anything as long as that doesn't affect anyone else.

e.g.,

  • You should be allowed to drink yourself stupid -- as long as you don't go driving afterwards
  • You should be allowed to smoke whatever you want, whenever you want -- as long as you don't go nuts and attack someone afterwards
  • You should be allowed to smoke cigarettes -- as long as you're not bothering anyone with the second-hand smoke
  • So on and so forth...

Some of the close-minded attitudes and opinions I've seen in this thread are sickening. I think prejudice and hateful attitudes (such as in this thread) cause more problems than drugs ever will.

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I only look down on the ones that are using hard drugs, (heroin, crack, meth etc.) You'd be surprised how many people use recreational drugs these days...

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The whole stigma attached to Drug Use/Abuse is definitely a social one - society, in general, looks down on those that use and/or abuse Drugs & Controlled Substances for several reasons:

1) Lack of self-control - you gain a physiological and psychological demand and addiction to the substance.

2) Deaths attributed to overdose - showing an even stronger demand and addiction to the substance and lack of self-control.

3) Drug Use/Abuse (including Alcohol) affects judgement and has a direct effect on a person's psychological state, and has been proven to do direct damage to vital organs.

4) Drug Culture - seedy-looking, glazed expressions, lack of care and personal hygeine are the most common denominator of Drug Users

5) Rebellion & Anarchy - most people who are regular Drug Users espouse such views as Governmental Overthrow, Anarchy and tossing away all laws except the humanist "Do No Harm" anthem - all so they can get their "high"

6) Putting their drug habit above all other things - this is, sadly, the most socially prevalent problem with Drug Use/Abuse - people putting "the score" above everything else in their lives, including their loved-ones, themsevles, and anyone who gets in their way of making "the score".

7) Apathy - The majority of Drug Users/Abusers are generally apathetic to everything not associated with obtaining and using their crutch-of-choice.

The hard facts: Drug Use/Abuse is a crutch. It's an escape. It's a way of covering up and numbing yourself to the real problems that exist in your life. Drugs do not solve "the problem", they are not the answer to "the problem", and in many cases make "the problem" infinitely worse because "the problem" isn't being dealt with.

Now, specifically to "weed", "pot" or whatever you wish to call it: you can go on denying the fact that your smoking pot *does* affect you because you're not seeing any immediate effects - what you're not seeing is that the effects of Marijuana are cumulative. You are killing brain-cells on a daily basis every time you "toke-up". Clinical studies have unequivically shown that the use of Canibas in all of it's forms has a definite and directly observable negative impact on the user. For example:

Cannabis and Legalization Issues in the United Kingdom:

Effects of Marijuana - from Narconon

Health On The Net - Marijuana Linked to Schizophrenia, Depression

If you think that smoking pot isn't harmfull, then you're delusional and in total denial just to feed your habit. The propaganda spewed by NorML is self-serving, and the studies they cite concerning the safety of Canibas use are extremely outdated and inaccurate in comparison to the more recent clinical studies.

There are many solid, socialogical reason why Controlled Substances are not legal unless presribed by your doctor - such as people using drugs while driving, operating heavy machinery and being generally careless because they're stoned or hallucinating.

If you feel that you need *any* chemical or substance that is not prescribed by a medical professional to "make me feel better" or to cover-up "a moment in their life where (you've) gotten down in the dumps and looked towards something for comfort" - sorry, Raum, but if your life is that crappy that you need a hit or two a day to get by (or anyone for that matter), then you need to do some SERIOUIS re-examination of your life, your choices and what is actually causing those feelings and what might appear to be a slight bit of depression (IANADOAMP - I am Not A Doctor Or A Medical Professional) instead of just covering it up with an artificial release from your cares.

FYI: I have Degenerative Disc Disease and have 1lbs of Titanium in my back where my L5-S1 disc was removed and fused. I suffer with Radiculopathy in my left leg due to damage to the Sciatic Nerve caused by the severe herniation of that L5-S1 disc. I also have been recently diagnosed with Fibromyalgia - before all of this I was a fairly active & healthy 35-year-old guy - the downward spiral started then and I've made it to 45. I have a newborn son who has Cystic Fibrosis and probably won't live to see his 40th birthday if he's lucky, and probably has 2 full lung transplants in his future. If anyone on this board or anywhere else has a reason to be at "a moment in their life where they've gotten down in the dumps and looked towards something for comfort" it's me...and you don't see me looking for it at the end of a roach-clip or a bottle.

Here's some info: Life is rough. No one is perfect, and nothing in your life will go exactly as you want it to. At times, life will suck, and it will even get worse at times. It will also get better, and finding comfort via a chemical substitute is not the answer. Family, Friends and loved-ones are an infinitely better way of dealing with life.

--ScottKin

I agree that any substance abuse is harmful no matter what. I just can't understand how alcohol and cigarettes are never an issue when weed is. Their justifiable crack and the fact that weed is frowned upon makes me sick. I am personally a weed smoker and will say that smoking as much as I do is not recommended, but I should have that choice. I realize this probably hurts my statement, but you don't see people beating their children when they had a bad day at work after smoking a joint. I would rather have a pot head family who is there for me than an alcoholic one that isn't. What needs to be done is government regulation on weed to elimate all the street level dealing. Then they can stop wasting dollars on nickel and diming and focus on the real problems like cocaine, heroin, ex, and any other hard drug.

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