kombolcha Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 depends on that situation because anyone can be a drug users.. those addicted to medication drugs, yes i WOULD look down on them.. i've never met anyone though.. but from what i've seen on the tv and those groups that come to my classes.. i don't like it. people who are on illegal drugs.. mainly cocaine, heroine, sniffing stuff.. yes i greatly look down on them, its really stupid. for marijuana.. if you're the type of person who smokes three, four joints a day, then i don't want to know you.. those to who like to smoke it from time to time are cool. its just an herb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 No. I've done them, most people have done them, and I know a lot of people who have done and do them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottKin Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Public Service Announcement for Canibas Users I get a kick out of the young pups here who think that they're so enlightened when they're just living in a fantasy world aided by their drug-induced euphoria. Crime related to Drugs and Drug activities is still killing the inner cities. BTW, regardless of where it's happening, the use/abuse of Drugs for what addicts claim are "recreational uses" are a blight on society. Citizens of Amsterdam are getting fed-up with "Heroin Park", with unsafe sharps lying all over the place. The majority of citizens in most major cities are equally sick and tired of druggies pan-handling for their "hit". Most major governments are stepping-up their anti-drug policies. Businesses all over the world are instituting anti-drug policies, including zero-tolerance for drug users. Rumor has it that there are tests being developed that will enable drug tests to detect the most minute ammounts of controlled substances in the blood and urine of the person being tested, even residual ammounts that could stay in the body for years. How will you druggies ever be able to hold a job beyond one that requires the words "Do you want fries with that?" when that comes down? Imagine the irony of screwing yourself out of your future just because you wanted to get high? If things continue along these lines, even McDonalds will be testing, so that kind-of kills that career choice. How good is your in-progress PhD or your two degrees going to be then? SPIT! :woot: I hope and pray for the day when simple Controlled Substance possession of more than 0.1oz is a felony, and Posession for Sale is a Grand Felony. Wipe the drug dealers off the street, and arrest the founders, owners and staff of NorML and other pro-drug organizations in the US under RICO statutes. As far as England is concerned: I'm pretty sure that as soon as the up-coming change in political climate in Great Britain and a new Conservative Party PM is selected there will be some sweeping changes in drug enforcement policy in the UK. Whether you like it or not, TonyAL and Raum - Controlled Substances are destructive and counter-productive to society, as well as damaging to your health. If you want to kill yourself slowly, be my guest. Like the above video illustrates: Canibas: High for a night, slow for a month. Those of us who are older and obviously more experience in life and who don't happen to agree with your pro-drug stance really take offense at your attempt to marginalize our wisdom and our experience, not to mention our firm anti-drug stance. Typical punk-posts from druggies who will cling to their bongs and pipes until they die. Unfortunately, it will probably be of an overdose. --ScottKin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 (edited) Wow. Just wow. That video makes me not take a thing you just said seriously. I can't believe you are actually arguing with that. I must now laugh. Edited January 2, 2006 by Raum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duhk Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I don't really care. It's their life. They can have fun with it however they'd like. But if the drug had a big affect on their lives or become dependant, I might feel bad or sorry for them. People who I do look down upon are people who rely on laws to tell them from right and wrong, and feel the need to interfere with other peoples lives and strip them of free choice because they don't think it's right. If it doesn't interfere with my way of life, then I have no problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicant78 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I get a kick out of the young pups here who think that they're so enlightened when they're just living in a fantasy world aided by their drug-induced euphoria. I'm a young "pup". I'll bite... Crime related to Drugs and Drug activities is still killing the inner cities. So is colon cancer, breast cancer, diabetes, and getting too old...Point? BTW, regardless of where it's happening, the use/abuse of Drugs for what addicts claim are "recreational uses" are a blight on society. Citizens of Amsterdam are getting fed-up with "Heroin Park", with unsafe sharps lying all over the place. The majority of citizens in most major cities are equally sick and tired of druggies pan-handling for their "hit". Most major governments are stepping-up their anti-drug policies. Actually, the narrowmindedness of others' is an equally large blight on society. What most "lawmakers" ( I use the term loosely) fail to understand is that people will do what they want, when they want, and how they want regardless of what law or perception of society you throw in their face. It's called being human. Druggies as you put it, have been around for ages. Long before drugs as we know it. Do you honestly think that by eliminating the druggies, the people that are begging on the street will just vanish? I think not. I also love the "Most major governments" part. I believe most major governments have been working on this problem for over 20 years in the US. It was Nancy Reagan's brainchild.. "The War on Drugs". Go here for more info on the subject. They HAVE been stepping it up. But oddly enough drugs are easier get and cheaper. Whodathunkit?? Businesses all over the world are instituting anti-drug policies, including zero-tolerance for drug users. Rumor has it that there are tests being developed that will enable drug tests to detect the most minute ammounts of controlled substances in the blood and urine of the person being tested, even residual ammounts that could stay in the body for years. How will you druggies ever be able to hold a job beyond one that requires the words "Do you want fries with that?" when that comes down? Imagine the irony of screwing yourself out of your future just because you wanted to get high? If things continue along these lines, even McDonalds will be testing, so that kind-of kills that career choice. How good is your in-progress PhD or your two degrees going to be then? SPIT! :woot: Strange that you mention that. Other than the fact that it has been old news for some time. Most if not all restaurants require drug testing. Just a useful fact for you...Over 50% of the US military uses drugs of some type. Did you know that these "druggies" are out there getting shot full of holes so you can whine on a message board about how the government is going to stop a drug problem that they created? And before you ask, I served for 8 years through two conflicts and I trusted my people with my life. Drugs or not. I hope and pray for the day when simple Controlled Substance possession of more than 0.1oz is a felony, and Posession for Sale is a Grand Felony. Wipe the drug dealers off the street, and arrest the founders, owners and staff of NorML and other pro-drug organizations in the US under RICO statutes. You must have a thing for fascism. Is that kinda what we are going to do with the NRA when they ban firearms? Over my dead body. As far as England is concerned: I'm pretty sure that as soon as the up-coming change in political climate in Great Britain and a new Conservative Party PM is selected there will be some sweeping changes in drug enforcement policy in the UK. The more things change, the more they stay the same..... Whether you like it or not, TonyAL and Raum - Controlled Substances are destructive and counter-productive to society, as well as damaging to your health. If you want to kill yourself slowly, be my guest. You are aware that you can die anywhere, at anytime, from anything, right? Living kills you slowly. Breathing kills you slowly. I'm pretty sure chicken can too... shall I go on....? Like the above video illustrates:Canibas: High for a night, slow for a month. um yea... Those of us who are older and obviously more experience in life and who don't happen to agree with your pro-drug stance really take offense at your attempt to marginalize our wisdom and our experience, not to mention our firm anti-drug stance. Don't get me wrong. I am not pro-drug. I am also not anti-drug. I believe in freedom. We are not children. We don't need others to make decisions for us. If we make a good one... cool. If we make a bad one, so be it. Gotta die of something. Typical punk-posts from druggies who will cling to their bongs and pipes until they die.Unfortunately, it will probably be of an overdose. --ScottKin Name calling is totally uncalled for. It's never a good idea to **** off those you intend to convince. Boy, that was a mess^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 You're just making excuses for your reality-escaping habit. Don't fool yourself. ;) :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechitowncubs Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 All of this is getting way too complicated. I don't look down on people who take drugs that they can not control, I feel bad for them. On the other hand, occasional use of marijuana is not bad in my opinion. Thats all, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_INk Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 no- they're victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceCarpet Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I'm going to go ahead here and say I look down on them, beucase I just feel that there wasting there lives when they could be getting controll of it and doing somthing with it. This is imo don't quote me or anthing with name's of people that have done well when on drug's becuase I really don't care for drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezy666 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Addiction is bad, M'kay. Alcohol is bad, M'kay. Marijuana is bad, M'kay. LSD is bad, M'kay. I guess the problem is'nt that someone takes drugs, rather, why they do it, attacking the emotional or other problems is more important. But offcoarse to do that drug intake has to be stopped first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 (edited) Public Service Announcement for Canibas Users I get a kick out of the young pups here who think that they're so enlightened when they're just living in a fantasy world aided by their drug-induced euphoria. Crime related to Drugs and Drug activities is still killing the inner cities. BTW, regardless of where it's happening, the use/abuse of Drugs for what addicts claim are "recreational uses" are a blight on society. Citizens of Amsterdam are getting fed-up with "Heroin Park", with unsafe sharps lying all over the place. The majority of citizens in most major cities are equally sick and tired of druggies pan-handling for their "hit". Most major governments are stepping-up their anti-drug policies. Businesses all over the world are instituting anti-drug policies, including zero-tolerance for drug users. Rumor has it that there are tests being developed that will enable drug tests to detect the most minute ammounts of controlled substances in the blood and urine of the person being tested, even residual ammounts that could stay in the body for years. How will you druggies ever be able to hold a job beyond one that requires the words "Do you want fries with that?" when that comes down? Imagine the irony of screwing yourself out of your future just because you wanted to get high? If things continue along these lines, even McDonalds will be testing, so that kind-of kills that career choice. How good is your in-progress PhD or your two degrees going to be then? SPIT! :woot: I hope and pray for the day when simple Controlled Substance possession of more than 0.1oz is a felony, and Posession for Sale is a Grand Felony. Wipe the drug dealers off the street, and arrest the founders, owners and staff of NorML and other pro-drug organizations in the US under RICO statutes. As far as England is concerned: I'm pretty sure that as soon as the up-coming change in political climate in Great Britain and a new Conservative Party PM is selected there will be some sweeping changes in drug enforcement policy in the UK. Whether you like it or not, TonyAL and Raum - Controlled Substances are destructive and counter-productive to society, as well as damaging to your health. If you want to kill yourself slowly, be my guest. Like the above video illustrates: Canibas: High for a night, slow for a month. Those of us who are older and obviously more experience in life and who don't happen to agree with your pro-drug stance really take offense at your attempt to marginalize our wisdom and our experience, not to mention our firm anti-drug stance. Typical punk-posts from druggies who will cling to their bongs and pipes until they die. Unfortunately, it will probably be of an overdose. --ScottKin Wow. Even though I dont agree with a thing you have been saying I kinda respected your ideals untill this post. It's like your whole life you've just been listening to and believing all that the government and the media have got to say about drugs without ever making up your own mind fully. It sounds to me like you have had no life experience with drugs whatsoever (this does not have to mean having tried them) . Your view is so biased you've bascially been saying that is impossible to do any amount of drugs recreationally and live a normal life. I know so many people who live great lives with jobs, loving familys and whatnot that who smoke occasionally like in the weekends or when relaxing with mates etc. and they do not do it to try to hide bad things in their life, as I know that I don't also. Your comment on the "real world" is amazing and so ironic, thanks for a good laugh. Like Raum said, everyones "real world" is different and we are not all going to experience the same things in life. Edited January 2, 2006 by Lanky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msing Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Would you count cigarettes as a drug? It fit's the definition of one to me. It's deadly, highly addictive (chemically), harms others (2nd-hand smoking), drains away money from the user, and people become dependant on it, but yet no one frowns upon a smoker in society. YOU made do, but no one cares if this politician/celebrity/news broadcaster smoked. And to reiterate from what Raum has said: No one has died from the long-term effects of smoking marijuana (well, compared to smoking and intoxicated related deaths). The drug isn't nearly as addictive as nicotine, and we have no idea what cigarettes companies put into their smokes. Aren't we being a bit hypocritical of ourselves? So, no I do no look down upon drug users, since no one else in the world does. It's their choice of lifestyle, not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkol Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I don't look down on anyone or don't judge anyone. The truth is we never know what is going on in other persons life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Would you count cigarettes as a drug? It fit's the definition of one to me. It's deadly, highly addictive (chemically), harms others (2nd-hand smoking), drains away money from the user, and people become dependant on it, but yet no one frowns upon a smoker in society. YOU made do, but no one cares if this politician/celebrity/news broadcaster smoked. And to reiterate from what Raum has said: No one has died from the long-term effects of smoking marijuana (well, compared to smoking and intoxicated related deaths). The drug isn't nearly as addictive as nicotine, and we have no idea what cigarettes companies put into their smokes. Aren't we being a bit hypocritical of ourselves? So, no I do no look down upon drug users, since no one else in the world does. It's their choice of lifestyle, not mine. Nicotene is a drug, it's not opinion. So are over the counter pain killers, which can also be addictive. And caffene, which you'll find MANY people are addicted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subfusion Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 No. I think all drugs are okay except heroin and crack or any drug that's not heroin and to be used it has to be either IVd or IMd. Anything in the line of MDMA (Ecstasy), Cocaine, Speed (or general Amphetamines), Ketamine, Magic Mushrooms and Marijuana are okay in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Shake Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I'm high right now!!! come on baby light my fire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Nicotene is a drug, it's not opinion. So are over the counter pain killers, which can also be addictive. And caffene, which you'll find MANY people are addicted to. I find it ironic as a heavy marijuana user that I was addicted to ceffeine and I've yet to become addicted to pot. :p One of the many reasons I quit drinking pop. Now even smelling pop just brings a sick feeling to my stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22COOL Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I don't look down on people who do drug's, there are many reasons why people turn to drugs. Of course it's not a good thing to do , thats obvious but I like to think I'm not a judgmental person, I like to get to know the person well before I pass judgment. What people do in there own time is there thing. my 2c worth :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Shake Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I don't look down on people who do drug's, there are many reasons why people turn to drugs. Of course it's not a good thing to do , thats obvious but I like to think I'm not a judgmental person, I like to get to know the person well before I pass judgment. What people do in there own time is there thing. my 2c worth :D Nicely said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druw Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I voted YES. But i meant to vote other. The reason being is that a close family member was addicted to heroin, but she went to rehab and got clean had a baby, got a joband now her life isnt going half bad. I do not like to see people do it, especially my friends when they get drunk (im 13) cos its very wrong especially at a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurë Veteran Posted January 2, 2006 Veteran Share Posted January 2, 2006 Only those who hurt others in the course of their drug taking or risk hurting others ie committing crime to pay for their drugs, driving under the influence of any drug. I am also disgusted by anyone who pushes another person to take drugs when they clearly don't want to or don't understand what the consequences could be. While I think crimes such as theft need to be punished, the perpertrator needs rehabilitation (such as help to get off drugs if they need it) to prevent them from doing it again. Even drug addicts are still human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hills420 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Not sure if thsi ahs been posted or not... "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me" - Hunter S. Thompson HST is one of the greatest literary authors of our time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttus Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Wow. Even though I dont agree with a thing you have been saying I kinda respected your ideals untill this post. It's like your whole life you've just been listening to and believing all that the government and the media have got to say about drugs without ever making up your own mind fully. It sounds to me like you have had no life experience with drugs whatsoever (this does not have to mean having tried them) . Your view is so biased you've bascially been saying that is impossible to do any amount of drugs recreationally and live a normal life. I know so many people who live great lives with jobs, loving familys and whatnot that who smoke occasionally like in the weekends or when relaxing with mates etc. and they do not do it to try to hide bad things in their life, as I know that I don't also. Your comment on the "real world" is amazing and so ironic, thanks for a good laugh. Like Raum said, everyones "real world" is different and we are not all going to experience the same things in life. i agree, people with that attitude are usually the ones who base their ideas off of what is illegal and not what is healthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensayshun Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Hell, right now I can walk into a store and buy a smoking pipe and some Salvia D extract, smoke it and hallucinate. All perfectly legal. Go on, I love that stuff. :laugh: I don't look down on them, it's their choice. Some of us enjoying skating *cough raum *cough* some of us enjoy sitting at a computer *cough*you lot*cough* some people enjoy sitting in a nice warm room smoking weed or something else, good for them. Some people enjoy going to raves and having an awesome time on pills. Some people look to drugs to escape. I don't look down on any people who do drugs, it's their life they can do what they want with it. But I do look down on drunkards. I don't know why, but I don't agree with alcohol. I think it's because someone can get drunk and make a fool of themselves in public. But with most drugs, your usually sat in a private place, or only surrounded by other druggies and your not affecting anyone elses lives. Your just getting on with your thing, how you choose. With alcohol your getting on with your thing and embarrassing yourself and making other people feel awkward and generally mistreating your body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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