thejohnnyq Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KXH Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I look down with pity on anyone who is addicted to anything. Its just sad. :( If your some dumb college kid messing around with pot or booze then no. You should and probably will grow out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it's funny how marijuana is linked with teens / college aged kids and immaturity, but the majority of users I've seen are parents or of parental age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 And I could quote a million more resources showing its positive sides. :rofl: Just like alcohol is "good" for you. :rolleyes: Come on, it's a drug....it's NOT good for you. There are NO positive sides to doing pot (or any other drugs, including alcohol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Relaxation Increased hunger Increased sexual pleasure Enhances ability to easily fall asleep Decreases feelings of motion sickness Increased mental activity Euphoria Pain relief Enhances blood flow and respiration Stress Reduction So all these are negative effects in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurë Veteran Posted January 18, 2006 Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hmmm...."Decreases feelings of motion sickness" I have to ask where you get that from. I once got severe motion sickness from the stuff (I overdid it)....like I was just lying on the floor unable to move at all with out feeling ill. From my own experience I would not disagree with any of the other statements though. Only happened once though, unlike alcohol which is always easy to overdo. Basically all drugs used as medication or for recreation have good and bad affects. It is up to individuals to research these and decide for themselves whether the good outweighs the bad enough to take the risk. People who randomly pop pills with no idea what they are, are stupid. And that includes stuff from the doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Agreed. I have a friend who smokes with me, but he also likes to get drunk with his other friends and they'll do pills too. Like last time they did this the one guy had some random anxiety pills that were supposed to "**** you up real good." Didn't exactly sound like my cup of tea. Hell, I don't even take anything like aspirin etc...if I get a headache I just deal with it. I try to take as little medication as possible....I don't have a lot of trust in it. I've had one friend throw up once from smoking a whole lot, but that's the only time I've seen that happen. Normally I don't notice much of a difference as far as motion sickness goes, but I got that off wikipedia just so you know. But I really do wonder why people consider things like euphoria, increeased sexual pleasure, easily falling asleep, food tasting better and so forth to be bad, simply because these positive effects are caused by a "drug." Again I use this arguement. Would you tell some who's on anti-depressants his happiness is a false sense of progress since he's reliant on the drug for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMarsten Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I had a very interesting arguement with a christian friend of mine regarding marijuana, and I don't think she could back up a single one of her arguements. She said marijauna would cause me liver damage, I asked her to link me to a single scientific report from a credible source stating so. I showed her multiple reports about health benefits of the plant, and explained to her how it is no more addictive than television or ice cream or sex, and her arguements always came down to, "Well I'm convinced it will ruin your life because it's bad." I should post the log, it's an interesting discussion. The smartest people I know smoke weed, they are in med school or dentistry, 3 are masters students .. so ruining your life, i highly doubt it. A little maryjane never hurt nobody ... on a unrelated note I think I should start a thread about the best movies to watch while your high, strictly for research purposes :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Most people I talk to, the basis of their arguement against me using it is "Because of the bad effects / dangers associated with it, it WILL ruin your life." What in life doesn't have risks and bad effects? I drink a glass of orange juice for some potassium, and I get a bunch of sugar I don't need. I go for a jog and despite all the exercise I'm getting, I could also be injuring my legs. It's just laughable how judgemental people will get whenever you throw the word drug into an equation. Especially since most of these have a vice of theirs that causes them harm as well that they continue to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyph Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 very much so i do :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 very much so i do :) Why do you play videogames? How do they possibly benefit you in your life? Why don't you grow up, face the real world and quit trying to escape reality? You'll grow out of them someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 The smartest people I know smoke weed Maybe that's because you hang out with other weed-users. :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmarE D Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Only drug I don't look down on is weed Nobody has ever died of an overdose using it. You can say it has all you want but there's no proof it ever has. If weed is as bad as they say it is they why are scientists all over the world studying it and giving it to people for medicinal purposes? Don't say "well they remove the THC that causes you to get high". No they don't. It's regular old weed. Only difference is that it's grown in labs instead off your basement/closet. The weed they give people for medicine is actually a lot stronger in many cases. I used to smoke it because I had a bad back, not to get high. Eventually you get to the point where you smoke soo much you don't get high anymore, but you're still relaxed and feeling better than usual. I'd smoke some when I woke up and I'd be off the work like any other day. Nobody would know I was using weed unless I said something to them. I just get tired of the people saying it's bad for your health and causes cancer. All lies. Nothing inside weed causes cancer. Everything in cigarettes that causes cancer is added into the cigarettes. NONE of that is in weed. I'll end it there because no matter what someone is going to say "you're full of it" when they don't know the facts. I think it's funny how marijuana is linked with teens / college aged kids and immaturity, but the majority of users I've seen are parents or of parental age. Because they want it to appear that it's taking over the children of the world. When just about every other family has parent/s who smoke weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartyjohnson Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Absolutely!!! Just Kidding...I had some college friends who were pot heads. They were cool people. Really funny to hang out with when they were high. Combine that with them getting drunk and you could get them to do anything. I guess if we were mean we could of had any one of them drive off a cliff that was nearby. We were not that mean though. I promise, they didn't really drive off the cliff that they remember doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 I don't see why people are on this whole crusade about convincing people that drug-induced altered mind-states are so bad in the first place. I see so many news articles about say, Salvia for example, saying things to the effect of "OMG they're getting HIGH! Whatever are we going to do?" Why are altered mind-states so taboo to you guys? Why do you think anyone who wants to experience them wants to do so for the SOLE purpose of escaping this reality, then mind-state? When in reality people are different, have different decision making mechanisms, have distinct personalities and ideals and so forth. Considering all the information available to you doesn't that sound like a pretty ****ing narrow-minded assumption? Look at all the things that AREN'T drugs that can put you in altered mind-states. Sex, masturbation, sleep, meditation, yoga, quigong, praying, daydreaming, seizures, music, being in a fist fight and so on. Even a child spinning around in a circle puts them in different mindstates. There are so many things that put you in altered mindstates that these anti-drug people have very much experienced throughout their lives, but the minute someone has the desire to experience one through a drug they are instantly seen as someone trying to escape reality. If you'd open your eyes you'd see quite clearly the same logic could be applied to someone wanting sex badly, that they just want to escape reality, or a child making himself dizzy, or someone meditating. I know I have gone on much crazier and more intense "highs" if you will meditating than I EVER have smoking marijuana. Pot doesn't even come close to what you can experience through meditation, yet the latter is seen as taboo by prettymuch nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Most people I talk to, the basis of their arguement against me using it is "Because of the bad effects / dangers associated with it, it WILL ruin your life." What in life doesn't have risks and bad effects? I drink a glass of orange juice for some potassium, and I get a bunch of sugar I don't need. I go for a jog and despite all the exercise I'm getting, I could also be injuring my legs. It's just laughable how judgemental people will get whenever you throw the word drug into an equation. Especially since most of these have a vice of theirs that causes them harm as well that they continue to use. Funny you make those comparison.Everything you named there, Orange Juice and Jogging do "good" to the body more than enough to outweigh the unwanted negative effects of it such as um... sugar from the juice or um, getting TIRED from running? jeez.. Smoking marijuana doesn't do any good to the body and nothing has been proven scientifically to prove such a statement wrong. It's used medicinally as a pain killer for people who suffer, that's it. Researchers might discover that marijuana might reduce the chances of having whatever disease and that's great! BUT all these are speculations have to be proven with further research. I won't lie, there are many articles like that saying that marijuana might benefit something in the body but none of those scientists are 100% sure, but we will know in the future to come. It's true. Too much of anything will do "bad" but when taken in moderation, these very same entities provide us with benefits, such as Wine or.. BROCOLI. Weed, in moderation? Please, do tell me what biological advantages it offers to the human body. "Stonage" is not a valid one, nor is "Increase of Creativity". :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 So it doesn't cause a single good effect? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28d...apeutic_effects I think relaxation, tastier food, lowered stress, increased sexual pleasure etc are good things, but that's just my opinion. :p What about icecream? About the only positive in that is a slight bit of calcium and it tastes good, other than that it's loaded with sugar, saturated fat etc. So, people basically eat it because it tastes good, and that's the only reason. It doesn't do your body any good. Marijuana makes food tastes better, so right there you have a good enough reason for the average american to justify it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkong118 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I don't see the harm in taking drugs to enhance a good night out, clubbing would be nothing without ecstacy boosting the fun. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BAT Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 No :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoXY Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 No, I don't use it my self but i have no problem with people who do.. Its their choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptain chump Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I look down on anyone who is dependent(by choice or by addiction) on something they KNOW causes harm to themselves. It only shows their poor inner-strength. Drugs shouldnt be something to look towards during times of crisis...that'll only make you more dependent upon them as a crutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I don't see the harm in taking drugs to enhance a good night out, clubbing would be nothing without ecstacy boosting the fun. :) lol, i used to think that, if you do enough e you will realise how fake it is and how fake it makes people. aslong as you aren't dropping 5+ pills because your tolerance then once in a while is ok for e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinner Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I tend to look at them a different way. I don't generally look down on them unless it has altered their progress in life. I do, however, look at them differently. I give them the same type of look as if I were to see an elephant walking down the street without the circus being in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrus Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 you might want to distinguish between illegal drug users versus drug users in general. just because you're socially accepted by your doctor to pop adderall or lithium doesn't make you a non-drug user. less we forget that caffeine is also a drug that just about everyone consumes daily. i'm loving the poll though. reminds us(me) of how brainwashed society is by the u.s. government's propaganda war against what they consider illegal drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napalm Frog Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Why brainwashed, what if it truly is a personal belief? I against any sort of third party influence to the body (medicine, drugs, heck, even diets and to some point veg*nism). I believe in a naturalistic approach. Sure, I was contradicted because I loved to drink, but as of this year I've even dropped that. Now, just for the caffeine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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