How Do You Feel About Our Mods


How Do You Feel About Our Mods  

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  1. 1. How Do You Feel About Our Mods

    • Satisfied with the job they do
      166
    • A little on the power-hungry side
      73
    • They could be doing more
      21
    • I don't think we should have mods in the first place, only admins to ban repeated spammers, advertisers etc
      15
    • Other
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Mark, I agree. It definately does look like a thankless job. I can remember the last time a mod PMed me....

Hey there man, I just edited a post by you I took out a part about waiting for the fanboys to come. There wasn't anythign really wrong with it, but i figured I would take it out just to avoid it baiting one. Sorry if it seems heavy handed.

Apologizing to me in advance for an action I see as justified is prettymuch the opposite of power hungry to me, and keep in mind I'm known for breaking the rules here too. I applaud how he handled that myself.

The only complaint I've ever had is I cna think of two specific mods that every now and then I'd see them let their personal views lend a strong bias in how they mod....a noticable bias. I can't remember the last time I saw either of them do that though, so I'm not even sure that's still the slight problem it was.

I've always seen more sucking up to the mods here than I've ever seen mods power tripping.

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As for the moderating team here, and having been part of it, let me just say that it is a 90% thankless job. :no: You volunteer your time cleaning up crap, only to get complaints (and occasional insults) in the forums or in your PM inbox.

Yes, but you did a good job and have respect from a lot of people here. You responded well (and continue to) in topics regarding Microsoft and Linux and I always saw you as being fair and as being one of the best mods. Sure people disliked you but they were a minority, though because they were most vocal that is probably what you saw the most.

I think the mods do a good job. There are a few that I think go a bit over the top but even they are trying to do their best and you can't please everyone. Being a mod can't be easy, must take up a huge amount of time and must put you in contact with some of the worst behaved people here but the advantage is that mods are respected and build up a mini fan base... I'm a member of the "Neowinians Love Dazzla, Sanctified And Markjensen Society".

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I hate when people suck up to mods.

But the most annoying thing to me is how some people on the thread put all their trust and decisions on mods. It's like if I mod says something-it HAS to be right.

I also hate when a mod comes into a thread and tries to discredit it, and then when he is proven wrong, he just 'disappears' from that thread rather than coming out and admitting he was wrong.

I don't know-yes, I am bitter about a certain couple-but I just feel that anyone 26 and younger (and that's still too young even for some) should not be a mod. In my eyes, they still lack good judgement and maturity sometimes. Granted, it is not all of them, but a certain few young one's ruin it for the rest, and therefore lose my respect as well.

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I also hate when a mod comes into a thread and tries to discredit it, and then when he is proven wrong, he just 'disappears' from that thread rather than coming out and admitting he was wrong.

How's that limited to mods? Half the people on the forum do that. It just sounds like you have a beef with some of the mods here... I don't like all the mods and find some to be over-zealous / provocative but I can at least accept that they put in a lot of effort and they're only trying to help.

But the most annoying thing to me is how some people on the thread put all their trust and decisions on mods. It's like if I mod says something-it HAS to be right.

Yes, but some people believe that mankind hasn't been to the moon and that Elvis is still alive, does that make them right? If people want to put trust in a mod then that is up to them, it doesn't mean a mod is any better than any other member on the forum. However, I'd rather listen to a mod than some random person here, most of whom are 13yr and don't know what they're talking about... much like I'd trust a policeman over a homeless man or a priest over a car salesman - does that reflect anything on those individuals? No, as the policeman might be on the take and the priest abusing little boys, but in general they are more trust worthy than regular people.

Mods sometimes have disagreements between themselves and are just like anyone else on the forum... some of them you'll like, some you'll dislike . You just have to figure out who you like and not just label them all as untrustworthy. However, you must remember that to maintain their position they have to act responsibly and their actions are reviewed by other mods, so it's not like they go around abusing their position.

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i think i'm great! :D

I think you're all great!! Never had any probs with you, no warnings .. that's why!! :cool: :laugh: ... jk No, you're doing a great job keep it up ;)

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Hmm... I'm used to forums where we don't have anyone under 18. Pretty much everyone takes care of themselves and the admins and mods are realy only there to get rid of spammers... I kinda wish it was that way here. Im sure though that there are too many kids, and too many people who resort to crap such as personal attacks for that to work here, I think.

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mmmhmmm. It's not just the kids. I can't tell you how many people have "refuted" my points with "grow up," "wait till you see the real world!," "young arrogant pothead!" and other such terms.

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I've seen them close some thread unnecessarily in my opinion, when some user were just haveing a bit of fun without harming anybody or being offensive etc, but apart from that they seem to be very capable.

Having said that i have a 20% warn thingy because i asked a question about a torrent months ago. If a mod would have simply said 'That's not really what we like here' or something along those lines i would have got the picture, but i'm not moaning.

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I think they are great... but they need to continue to improve their consistency of enforcement of their own rules. I have fond some mods participating in topics that should not be allowed (such as DVD copy protection circumvention).

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I see far more people complain about mods than thank them.

I've had a few threads closed just because X mod didn't like it. Not because it broke any rules. Not everything they do is completely black and white....but they do a good job regardless. A small qualm here and there is little in the face of the work they do to keep the boards clean when you think about it. Everyone is bound to make mistakes...it's the ones that seem unable to admit to them that are the bad ones.

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I will just say this... I've been around since before they started the "name changes" (actually about 3 mos after thier initial launch) and have switched names a few times. There used to be a good few who were just besides themselves that they could do things and not be questioned about them. There some of them have left, thank goodness.

I'll also just say this in conclusion... things dont change here at Neowin. There are still a few mods running around who are alittle more than "power hungry". Often, these same mods are even condescending. I dont say anything about that anymore because these same mod's have "retaliated" and sadly there are those here above the mods who trust them. The sad part is that these ModGods can't be trusted. oh well... it's just the intarweb afterall. Life goes on, and I have a life outside of here.

If being teh ubar modgod makes some feel like they win at life, then so be it.

BTW... Fred666... say what you will, but you're the best thing to happen to Neowin since Al Gore invented the Intarweb.

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Most of them are doing a great job, and I even say that although I have a 100% warning :)

But what about starting a sub forum for the single purpose of trolling/fighting over something, just give people a huge warning message before entering that forum they should not enter if you have a faint heart. Allow everything in there but 18+ content and piracy. :whistle:

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I hate them all!!! :angry:

:p

I'm a member of the "Neowinians Love Dazzla, Sanctified And Markjensen Society".

To be honest I always tho' you disliked me :blush: Dont ask me why.

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BTW... Fred666... say what you will, but you're the best thing to happen to Neowin since Al Gore invented the Intarweb.

:rofl:

I'm going to second that. Fred, you are great for Neowin.

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I agree with whoever said consistency about enforcing rules. I distinctly remember making a thread about buying a smoking pipe, something that is perfectly legal and not necassarily related to illegal drug use. The thread was closed, but my "Do you look down on drug users thread" has remained open, despite multiple detailed accounts of my illegal smoking habits.

The reason given for the closure of the first thread? "It promoted illegal drug use."

But arguing for the legalization of marijuana, elaborating on how little harm I feel it does, talking about my favorite ways of smoking marijuana, talking about my friends who buy cocaine and so forth apparently doesn't.

Then again, this whole thing is related to one of the mods I do not think handles his job very well, so I guess it's not that big of a surprise.

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I agree with whoever said consistency about enforcing rules. I distinctly remember making a thread about buying a smoking pipe, something that is perfectly legal and not necassarily related to illegal drug use. The thread was closed, but my "Do you look down on drug users thread" has remained open, despite multiple detailed accounts of my illegal smoking habits.

The reason given for the closure of the first thread? "It promoted illegal drug use."

But arguing for the legalization of marijuana, elaborating on how little harm I feel it does, talking about my favorite ways of smoking marijuana, talking about my friends who buy cocaine and so forth apparently doesn't.

Then again, this whole thing is related to one of the mods I do not think handles his job very well, so I guess it's not that big of a surprise.

I blame subjectivity. :pinch:

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I think they do a pretty decent job. No complaints. Just got a 20% ban from Neobond way back in 2002 i guess. lol i said something bout a windows xp k3yg3n that had come out .... creamhackered did post something about it and it was on Frontpage news .... and i commented some unwanted comments and got a 3 day ban + 20% warning level

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Like Raum has said, i think some Mods let personal opinion take over in certain situations...

Neowin is a place i had hoped people could be free in their opinions/views (although i do understand that extremist views in any subject, that could seriously offend, may need to be censored/edited)......

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Yeah...like if I made a poll saying "How do you feel about child porn?" It could follow all the rules of the forum, but some mods I'd expect to close it simply because they do not like the subject matter. It's kind of annoying to deal with, but thankfully those types of mods I've found to be a vast minority.

Now if I made a thread about X mod I didn't care for and made a long post about why I didn't like them and how other users felt about said mod, I think that's just a direct attack on someone in many ways and doesn't really have a place here. I don't see why we can't discuss things less socially acceptable however, as long as they meet the board guidelines. Discussing everyones views on child porn does not mean we are all for it or take part in it ourselves, we merely want to discuss a subject.

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't think it'd be a problem if people could just refrain from personal attacks and keep a cool, civil head about them when arguing. Unfortunately most people can't seem to handle the idea of someone not sharing their views.

That is the key that no one seems to understand. Heated debates are obviously allowed, but as soon as one member insults another, the game is over.

i just dont like the way you cant object, or comment about their actions...

i mean... neowin better be careful, or the US might invade in search of oil... i mean... to remove the dictatorship

You simply can't question in a public forum. Anyone who's been warned by me and has not replied with a "**** off you mother ****er" will know that I take the time to reply back with a deeper explaination or answers to any questions they may have stemming from the warning.

Yeah...like if I made a poll saying "How do you feel about child porn?" It could follow all the rules of the forum, but some mods I'd expect to close it simply because they do not like the subject matter. It's kind of annoying to deal with, but thankfully those types of mods I've found to be a vast minority.

Now if I made a thread about X mod I didn't care for and made a long post about why I didn't like them and how other users felt about said mod, I think that's just a direct attack on someone in many ways and doesn't really have a place here. I don't see why we can't discuss things less socially acceptable however, as long as they meet the board guidelines. Discussing everyones views on child porn does not mean we are all for it or take part in it ourselves, we merely want to discuss a subject.

The problem with the less socially acceptable topics is the deviation they often take towards being socially unacceptable and legally unacceptable. I believe I was the one who closed your bong thread a while back. There was actually a pretty long staff discussion about that before any action was taken and we simply decided that, because of different rules in different countries and as a result of where the topic was going/was clearly heading, it was best to close it down (there were also other reasons who I had indicated to you at the time). You have to understand that, as Neowin grows, we have to work harder and harder to maintain an image that the admins desire. Sometimes, that means we have to close down some of the more taboo discussions.

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