How Do You Feel About Our Mods


How Do You Feel About Our Mods  

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  1. 1. How Do You Feel About Our Mods

    • Satisfied with the job they do
      166
    • A little on the power-hungry side
      73
    • They could be doing more
      21
    • I don't think we should have mods in the first place, only admins to ban repeated spammers, advertisers etc
      15
    • Other
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Now if I made a thread about X mod I didn't care for and made a long post about why I didn't like them and how other users felt about said mod, I think that's just a direct attack on someone in many ways and doesn't really have a place here. I don't see why we can't discuss things less socially acceptable however, as long as they meet the board guidelines. Discussing everyones views on child porn does not mean we are all for it or take part in it ourselves, we merely want to discuss a subject.

Let me go back and edit my post before I get another warning...

But there was a mod here that told me this was a dictatorship, free will isn't allowed. I swear it...

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That's always been something I've disagreed with on a philosophical level. Same thing happened with my school in a different way. They wanted to keep us males from growing facial hair because our city is in the middle of ones with much more crime, and they try to keep up a clean, well mannered image. I dislike this idea, I think people should express themselves from the inside out, barring safety concerns like big metal spikes and ****. Shaving also posed health problems for myself. An instance of their hypocrisy, wearing a shirt saying I love Jesus will net you no trouble at all, but if you wear band shirt that has a pentagram on it they'd make you turn it inside out because of "satanic imagery."

Either way, yes there are mods I feel let their emotions get the best of them, but there isn't a one of them that I have anything against as a person. In the end this site is owned and run by a few specific people, and when it comes down to it, their judgement is what keeps things here or has them taken down, not mine. I can voice my concerns over the job the staff is doing, but I am not the one who is to decide what stays and what doesn't. I'll object, but I try to do it both peacefully and knowing my place.

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Let me go back and edit my post before I get another warning...

But there was a mod here that told me this was a dictatorship, free will isn't allowed. I swear it...

I've heard that line too. :/

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I'm happy with what they do.

Although i have 60% warning - I'm not angry at the mods for giving me they warning because they reason i got the warning was because i broke the rules.

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I can't recall all the warnings I got and what they were for, but some I them I know I earned. One of my old customization guides I copied from one forum to this one, and forgot I had a link to Yz Dock in it. Honest mistake, but clearly breaking the rules.

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The mods are cool, the ones that actually chime in a lot and don't only post when warning others actually seem like interesting people. Never really had a personal encounter with one til the other day when I called someone a douche because they said something retarded, but I can see why that's unacceptable. Like I told the mod, I realized I shouldn't have said it afterwards, but it made me feel better at the time :p

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I've heard that line too. :/

And thats scary...

The mods are cool, the ones that actually chime in a lot and don't only post when warning others actually seem like interesting people. Never really had a personal encounter with one til the other day when I called someone a douche because they said something retarded, but I can see why that's unacceptable. Like I told the mod, I realized I shouldn't have said it afterwards, but it made me feel better at the time :p

You must be talking about fred666, I have gotten warnings from some mods that actually made me feel better about it. I have earned the 1st two warnings but the 3rd made no sense to me. It was a damned if I do, damned if i don't type thing.

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I like them. I've always (except for one very stupid decision by me) kept a level head during debates and because of that have only gotten the one warning I deserved. The only ones I hear completely complaining all the time are the immature little kids that want to flame everybody without consequence. If you follow the rules, which are very fair IMO, then there should be no issues.

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I feel that there's one mod here who is on a power trip and abuses his mod status and let's his personal beliefs in things get in the way of what he's suppossed to do. I posted a link to the Segoe and Calibri fonts not long ago. I honestly thought they free to distibute. I've seen them come with many free themes you can download and before I posted I asked a friend if they thought if they were free and they said were pretty sure they were. I'll admit I should have just looked around on Microsofts site or something first.

I posted the links and I was automatically given a three day suspension and my warning level raised another 20%. This was given to me without even giving me a chance to even have any kind of say in it. Before I posted I thought, well if it's considered warez I'll most likely just get warned and post removed and I wouldn't have any issue with that. If it would have gone that way I would have apologized for posting the link and that would have been the end of that.

It's pretty pathetic when someone can post a link to the torrent for the latest build of Vista, all that happens is that the link is removed and they get warned. Yet, I posted two links to something as small as fonts and I get a three day suspension with a 20% raise in the warning level.

I wanted to e-mail someone about that issue to see if that was a fair call on raising it 20% and given a three day suspension, but I thought it wouldn't matter anyway so I just didn't bother. But now that this thread is here I think I'll mention it.

You have others on here who create a seperate thread everytime they update their site with wallpaper. 1.) The person does it just to obviously promote his site which I thought wasn't allowed and 2.) Any kind of thread like "New wallpapers added to my site" should be one thread where the first original post is updated with most recent news. This person has three threads going where all they mention is "adding some wallpapers to my site" Three threads from the same person, about the same thing. Those should be taken and made into one thread. I mention doing that and I was called a SPAMMER just because I thought that it would be a good idea to merge the threads into one.

Besides that crap, I'm fine with everything else on the site. Only this one little mod gets on my nerves and i think he also annoys others with his mod status and what he removes from threads simply because HE doesn't happen to like it.

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you just joined the mods bad books.. and also because of your custom title, under your avatar :p

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I like them. I've always (except for one very stupid decision by me) kept a level head during debates and because of that have only gotten the one warning I deserved. The only ones I hear completely complaining all the time are the immature little kids that want to flame everybody without consequence. If you follow the rules, which are very fair IMO, then there should be no issues.

You just havent run into the "right" mod. I don't flame anyone, I have before but that happens. Check my posts, I have meaningful posts and great topics (very active). But there are somethings that SOME mods just don't tolerate. Take warez for example, illegal software. I dont think we should get warned for talking about it. Now if I say: "Here is some warez guys!! Click this link and you will get access to free illegal software!!!" I would expect to get banned. But if I say something like: "Hmmm, I bet Windows Vista is already on Limewire..." I shouldnt get banned for that, or even suspended. But it happens alot.

Warez is there and there is really nothing we can do about it to be honest, it's like stopping someone from talking about drugs. Drugs are bad but I see polls about it, but no one is saying "Take the bus to 5th street and meet David if you live in the xxx area." Get what I am saying?

I feel that there's one mod here who is on a power trip and abuses his mod status and let's his personal beliefs in things get in the way of what he's suppossed to do. I posted a link to the Segoe and Calibri fonts not long ago. I honestly thought they free to distibute. I've seen them come with many free themes you can download and before I posted I asked a friend if they thought if they were free and they said were pretty sure they were. I'll admit I should have just looked around on Microsofts site or something first.

I posted the links and I was automatically given a three day suspension and my warning level raised another 20%. This was given to me without even giving me a chance to even have any kind of say in it. Before I posted I thought, well if it's considered warez I'll most likely just get warned and post removed and I wouldn't have any issue with that. If it would have gone that way I would have apologized for posting the link and that would have been the end of that.

It's pretty pathetic when someone can post a link to the torrent for the latest build of Vista, all that happens is that the link is removed and they get warned. Yet, I posted two links to something as small as fonts and I get a three day suspension with a 20% raise in the warning level.

I wanted to e-mail someone about that issue to see if that was a fair call on raising it 20% and given a three day suspension, but I thought it wouldn't matter anyway so I just didn't bother. But now that this thread is here I think I'll mention it.

You have others on here who create a seperate thread everytime they update their site with wallpaper. 1.) The person does it just to obviously promote his site which I thought wasn't allowed and 2.) Any kind of thread like "New wallpapers added to my site" should be one thread where the first original post is updated with most recent news. This person has three threads going where all they mention is "adding some wallpapers to my site" Three threads from the same person, about the same thing. Those should be taken and made into one thread. I mention doing that and I was called a SPAMMER just because I thought that it would be a good idea to merge the threads into one.

Besides that crap, I'm fine with everything else on the site. Only this one little mod gets on my nerves and i think he also annoys others with his mod status and what he removes from threads simply because HE doesn't happen to like it.

I can name about 3 mods that could have done that... :angry:

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By and large I think they do a great job. Given a site this size I don't envy them whatsoever with all that they have to put up with. I do think there is a bit too much objectivity that lets threads continue that are in direct opposition to the forums they are posted in. Why post a warning or disclaimer in a specific forum if it means nothing?

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I feel that there's one mod here who is on a power trip and abuses his mod status and let's his personal beliefs in things get in the way of what he's suppossed to do. I posted a link to the Segoe and Calibri fonts not long ago. I honestly thought they free to distibute. I've seen them come with many free themes you can download and before I posted I asked a friend if they thought if they were free and they said were pretty sure they were. I'll admit I should have just looked around on Microsofts site or something first.

I posted the links and I was automatically given a three day suspension and my warning level raised another 20%. This was given to me without even giving me a chance to even have any kind of say in it. Before I posted I thought, well if it's considered warez I'll most likely just get warned and post removed and I wouldn't have any issue with that. If it would have gone that way I would have apologized for posting the link and that would have been the end of that.

It's pretty pathetic when someone can post a link to the torrent for the latest build of Vista, all that happens is that the link is removed and they get warned. Yet, I posted two links to something as small as fonts and I get a three day suspension with a 20% raise in the warning level.

I wanted to e-mail someone about that issue to see if that was a fair call on raising it 20% and given a three day suspension, but I thought it wouldn't matter anyway so I just didn't bother. But now that this thread is here I think I'll mention it.

I can name about 3 mods that could have done that... :angry:

Any other mod would have done the exact same thing.

Our warez policy has changed somewhat in the past couple weeks. If you request or link to known warez/fonts, whatever, it is a warning + 3 day restriction/suspension. No questions asked. If you mention you download warez or something similar, it's a warning. We are getting serious about the warez problem on the board. The rules are clear that it is to not be linked to, requested, or discussed. Because people think they can slide by, it was decided to give a harsher punishment. This was a decision made by the Admins. As moderators, we are merely enforcing the rules. If you don't like the punishment or disagree with it, you can always pm a supervisor or admin.

We will not comment on how other people get punished, but as of a week or two ago, if they link to or request warez, they WILL be restricted. NO exceptions.

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Any other mod would have done the exact same thing.

Our warez policy has changed somewhat in the past couple weeks. If you request or link to known warez/fonts, whatever, it is a warning + 3 day restriction/suspension. No questions asked. If you mention you download warez or something similar, it's a warning. We are getting serious about the warez problem on the board. The rules are clear that it is to not be linked to, requested, or discussed. Because people think they can slide by, it was decided to give a harsher punishment. This was a decision made by the Admins. No mods are on a power trip. We are simply enforcing it. I'm doing a job. If you don't like the punishment or disagree with it, you can always pm a supervisor or admin.

We will not comment on how other people get punished, but as of a week or two ago, if they link to or request warez, they WILL be restricted. NO exceptions.

See, the point of this thread is to vent I guess. I know along with everyone else that nothing will be done about anything. Now me for example, I have PMd an admin a LOOONG time ago, STILL havent gotten a response, not even a "NO!!". Now I never requested a link, offered a link or even discussed it, all I said was "And get banned for life? I don't think so..." and I got a restricted profile and a 3 day posting ban.

Now I have a question and I SWEAR this is not a joke I am just curious. Do you guys get paid for this? And what is the big deal with the warez thing? Is it because you never know who is on this message board?

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From experience, I know that when it gets quiet like this, the mods are deliberating rather or not to shut this down because of where it MIGHT go... :no:

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i'll be straight up and honest here. I think they're a lil on the power hungry side! The couple other forums I visited actively long before neowin were 10x more relaxed. Mods didn't do anything until there was a fight. Or they didn't move threads unless it was down right bogus. Like I posted a "must have ipod apps for OSX" in the mac forum, and it got moved to portable media forum. Now I understand the issue, and I wouldn't ahve been so mad if I didn't get 6 replys giving windows apps. And when I try and explain something, they lock they thread of don't respond.

/me hides and awaits complete and total annihilation

But I'm still learnin how ya'll work ;)

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From experience, I know that when it gets quiet like this, the mods are deliberating rather or not to shut this down because of where it MIGHT go... :no:

I was sitting here thinking the same thing.

I forsee 5 minutes from now:

There will be no talk of dissent in Neowin

Thread closed

20% increase of warning level for everyone who posted in this thread.

:whistle: :rofl:

*Runs away, and awaits his own 40% pm and the banning of Squares ;) *

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I personally cannot understand how anyone says Neowin's mods are power hungry.

Everyone who voted for anything other than what I voted for is now banned :whistle:

:p

But in all honesty, I don't see that any of the current mods (because I never paid attention to it before I was staff) are power-hungry. We have rules (located at https://www.neowin.net/rules.htm) and we all try to follow them. If we make a mistake, as we're only human, we try to correct it. But I don't see any of the mods as being power hungry though.

The best thing to do is to try and not break any of those rules, and there won't be a problem.

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Yeah I know, I was just clarifying about the warez point.

No, we don't get paid. We do it because we enjoy it.

As far as warez, it is illegal so it should earn a greater punishment. It's also getting a little out of control. Or at least it was. We felt something should be done to quash that type of talk and to make it clear that we won't tollerate it. There are also issues with Neowin being liable. The more warez talk there is, the harder it is to get everything, which increases our liability if we miss something

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I personally cannot understand how anyone says Neowin's mods are power hungry.

Everyone who voted for anything other than what I voted for is now banned :whistle:

:p

But in all honesty, I don't see that any of the current mods (because I never paid attention to it before I was staff) are power-hungry. We have rules (located at https://www.neowin.net/rules.htm) and we all try to follow them. If we make a mistake, as we're only human, we try to correct it. But I don't see any of the mods as being power hungry though.

The best thing to do is to try and not break any of those rules, and there won't be a problem.

I've always wondered that myself. The admins made the rules. We are here simply helping to enforce those rules. How anyone can be called power-hungry for that is beyond me. Every other mod sees our warnings, so if someone goes over the line, or a warning seems to be affected by their gaming system, computer or OS preference, they will be called on it. There are too many checks and balances in place for a mod to be power hungry.

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i really think our mod's do a good job. they are very friendly, so we know that there human and there just like us. They know when something is inapropriate and when its not. I've always though that they do a good job. Although i do not agree with some of the choices they make, they are pretty good. Keeping Neowin # 1 forever.

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Neowin has 14 rules. 13 on them are to encourage etiquette and good behaviour for the enjoyment of the other members. 1 rule is designed to protect Neowin's legal liability from something considered a felony in the United States.

I'll let you guess what that is.

Yes, we have made a concerted effort to combat that in the last few weeks.

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I love everything in our mods.

(except bangbang023, Chad, LOC's nicknames -> everytime I look at them I interpret as gangbang, Chav, LOCO... :blink:)

And there are some people with actual modding skills comming up. *cough*Raum*cough*

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I think the mods and admin runs a pretty tight ship around here, I like what they do

Keep it up guys :) (Y)

Reading about the FOnt situation up above, I guess I can give credits to Fred regarding this...

About a month ago, I got people requesting the 6 New Vista fonts, I posted them but was warned by members that it might be considered warz. I PMed Fred, the thread was removed, he explained the situation and that was the end of it. Great communication and I can accept that...

I think most NW members are very understanding, sometimes a explination is all they ask for. I think a bit more communication between the mods and the members for the action they may decide to take would be better...

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