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Mozilla is superior to Internet Explorer 6.0!


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Let me start by saying I have tried many builds of Mozilla, Netscape and Opera over the years and have always preffered IE until now. As of Mozilla 1.0 (now 1.1b) I believe that Mozilla is far surperior to IE.

1.) Tabbed browsing is more efficient than opening multiple explorer windows. Having 4 or 5 websites fully loaded under tabs a few inches away from your main browser window is so much easier than stacking multinple browsers, having to go to the taskbar, or even using a windowshade app to roll up the windows.

2.) Mozilla is stable. This afternoon, just for fun, I loaded 160 sites into a single browser, tabbed. Mozilla was slow for about 10 minutes (probably more my system limitations than Mozilla), but it accomplished all 160 sites. Without crashing.

3.) Mozilla is easily, fully customizable. It has native skin support. Want to change the splash screen? Drop in your own mozilla.bmp into the main mozilla directory and your finished. Want new browser icons? Install a new set online in 5 seconds. With as many Neowin members into system customization, I'm surprised Mozilla isn't their default browser for this reason alone. Not to mention it works well with Intellimouse drivers, so you can backspace your way through your page history with ease (thanks for the tip BroChaos!)

4.) It supports all commonly used plug-ins. Java, flash, shockwave and more. With the exception of a few MSN Java games I haven't had a single plug in problem. (Mozilla having problems with an MSN site...hmmm. Not to mention the score of open source plug ins like leech get...the best site file leecher I've used.

5.) It's fast. The user decides how much to optimize Mozillas speed and interaction with the OS. Mozilla consistantly loads sites faster the IE6.

6.) It's secure. I've noticed that Mozilla works almost like a firewall in it's ability to screen everything you are looking at (speaking of firewalls, Mozilla works seamlessly with zone alarm now). I have been extremely impressed with how much Mozilla catches when browsing insecure sites.

I have about ten more reasons that I dig Mozilla so much. It's free...go try it out at Mozilla.org. Post what you think of the new build.

I would love to see Neowin artists really get into this browser and start creating skins to match many of the themes we've seen on Neowin!

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Originally posted by Angel Blue01

How? IE supports far more Web sites than Mozilla.

(Granted, that's largely due to IE-only HTML, but still...)

Read my post its on page 4 I think. It will explain it in detail.

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I don't have to install IE, that's why I like it. I don't give a crap if Mozilla is "better" (in your opinion). I format my hard drive on a monthly basis--the less time I have to spend installing software the better. Why does it even matter what other people use if they're happy with it? Why do I even feel the need to justify it? What's the point of this thread? :p

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This thread is not about telling anyone they are dumb for using IE or anything else. Its a discussion in which you obviously have no insight with, because If you did, you would have posted something benificial to this thread other then try to cause trouble. You like IE good use it have fun. This thread is obviously nothing to you so post in other threads in which you do enjoy.

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Exactly, AgEnTsMiTh. My point in starting this thread was that I feel personally, after using the software, Mozilla is a better application than Internet Explorer.

Since I've begun this thread I have discovered even more Mozilla 'goodies': The mail client is superb and imports Outlook settings in about 1 sec. The leech plug in is perfect for wallpaper sites and broadband :evil: ...just go to a thumbnail page and load up 30 wallpapers. The download manager gives me excellent control over my downloads.And the web page composer is a decent wysiwyg page builder...nice for those 'quick jobs'.My favorite thing is still tab browsing. The little animation that shows a page loading on the tab while I'm on another site is smart!

The only thing I don't like about Mozilla is the bloatware it leaves on my machine after it's installed. Anyone know how to uninstall IE6 and Outlook Express without crashing WindowsXP??:D If it would only uninstall all that MS crap I would have a little extra HD space for something useful...

Oh, just because this thread has been such a nice discussion about the pros and cons of Mozilla and Internet Explorer, I just have to say that if you use IE you suck monkies, just for flame sake! (j/j!!!)

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Originally posted by deadzombie

Exactly, AgEnTsMiTh. My point in starting this thread was that I feel personally, after using the software, Mozilla is a better application than Internet Explorer.

Since I've begun this thread I have discovered even more Mozilla 'goodies': The mail client is superb and imports Outlook settings in about 1 sec. The leech plug in is perfect for wallpaper sites and broadband :evil: ...just go to a thumbnail page and load up 30 wallpapers. The download manager gives me excellent control over my downloads.And the web page composer is a decent wysiwyg page builder...nice for those 'quick jobs'.My favorite thing is still tab browsing. The little animation that shows a page loading on the tab while I'm on another site is smart!

The only thing I don't like about Mozilla is the bloatware it leaves on my machine after it's installed. Anyone know how to uninstall IE6 and Outlook Express without crashing WindowsXP??:D If it would only uninstall all that MS crap I would have a little extra HD space for something useful...

Oh, just because this thread has been such a nice discussion about the pros and cons of Mozilla and Internet Explorer, I just have to say that if you use IE you suck monkies, just for flame sake! (j/j!!!)

LOL!!!!

Well at least some get what this thread is about. I may be wrong, but isnt the final build of SP1 for XP going to contain some of the things they have been forced to do, like being able to unistall IE etc? Like I said I may be wrong, I have not kept up with all the details. But It would be nice to know.

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Originally posted by deadzombie

Exactly, AgEnTsMiTh. My point in starting this thread was that I feel personally, after using the software, Mozilla is a better application than Internet Explorer.

Since I've begun this thread I have discovered even more Mozilla 'goodies': The mail client is superb and imports Outlook settings in about 1 sec. The leech plug in is perfect for wallpaper sites and broadband :evil: ...just go to a thumbnail page and load up 30 wallpapers. The download manager gives me excellent control over my downloads.And the web page composer is a decent wysiwyg page builder...nice for those 'quick jobs'.My favorite thing is still tab browsing. The little animation that shows a page loading on the tab while I'm on another site is smart!

The only thing I don't like about Mozilla is the bloatware it leaves on my machine after it's installed. Anyone know how to uninstall IE6 and Outlook Express without crashing WindowsXP??:D If it would only uninstall all that MS crap I would have a little extra HD space for something useful...

Oh, just because this thread has been such a nice discussion about the pros and cons of Mozilla and Internet Explorer, I just have to say that if you use IE you suck monkies, just for flame sake! (j/j!!!)

/me sucks monkies in windows

/me does not suck monkies in linux :ermm:

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That's because Mozilla loads the page and then displays is whereas IE loads the text and then loads the images.

Well in my humble opinion Mozilla should function like this..as one is able to start reading the page faster (typically don't need images anyways.

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Hmmm...I don't know if my build of Mozilla is screwed up, but it shows the page & text before downloading the images.

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Originally posted by deadzombie

Hmmm...I don't know if my build of Mozilla is screwed up, but it shows the page & text before downloading the images.

That is how my works

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Anyone can argue that whole wheat bread is nutrionally better than white bread. Pepsi is better than coke.

Same with the web browsers. I can say Mozillas better (hey I'm always using it), then someone can say IE's better since they always use it. Don't forget that each browser can't be customised and if you don't like a broswer feature chances are you can change it.

Personally, I find Mozilla more stable than Netscape (heh, what isn't), it renders pages better and loads as fast or just as fast as IE (I'm using a PIII 800 /w 640 MB ram. I like the Moz themes and some of the extra apps like Collaborator for making quick and easy tables. The 3rd mouse button click to open a new browser on a link is my fav feature.

The one think I don't like is the e-mail client but it should improve w/ time. If you tried one of the beta Mozillas and didn't like it since it was slow or whatever reason, try the 1.0 or 1.1 or CVS releases.... soooo much better.

Anyone can argue IE's better than Moz. Do I care? No. I'm using Moz and I'm happy w/ it. People would other wise complian that IE was the only browser available. Since we have Mozilla, IE, Opera and Lynx (the linux text based browser) among a bunch of others people are happy with the choices. Hey, I love to argue like any one else but be happy we have choices. Arguments won't win people from one browser to the other. Be happy with the choices - let's just leave it at that.

BTW whole wheat bread rocks and so does Pepsi :)

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hmm I downloaded the latest nightly and it seems faster

(maybe it was the nightly I was using, or the fact that I was using MultiZilla...it now seems just as fast as IE)

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just sort of a sidenote, but do you guys that use moz use pipelining? supposedly it speeds up page load times even more.

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Originally posted by BroChaos

just sort of a sidenote, but do you guys that use moz use pipelining? supposedly it speeds up page load times even more.

Depends on the page. Neowin seems to load a little faster 90% of the time with it on, but that extra 10% Neowin just loads very strangly...kinda in blocks.

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Originally posted by AgEnTsMiTh

Yes its so slow that major companies are now programming using the XUL interface. I suggest you research that comment. Like any programming language your applications are only as good as the coders are. The reasons these companies are writing applications using XUL is because of its speed and effeciency. The one thing that could impact the interface is the theme you use in mozilla if its bloated and uses poorley optomized images. Orielly has a fantastic book out about programming using Mozilla and the XUL language. I suggest anyone who is interested in learning about its effeciency and you want to learn more about XUL programming I highly suggest you get this book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/059...9793399-5906357

Read this and then get back to me.

is XUL a interpreted language??

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Originally posted by deadzombie

My favorite thing is still tab browsing.

have you tried multizilla ?

It has some of the features of Crazybrowser / netcaptor / myIE and others.

I am just starting to explore Mozilla. I have been a LOYAL user of Netcaptor (yes ... it uses the IE engine) ... but this does look promising!

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know how to uninstall IE6 and Outlook Express without crashing WindowsXP?? If it would only uninstall all that MS crap I would have a little extra HD space for something useful...

Its called SP1 :p

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