+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted January 11, 2006 Subscriber² Share Posted January 11, 2006 1) I am not in a minority thanks. I am a white, middle-class, educated, straight male. 2) I accept that your opinion is valid to you. But it IS based upon ignorance. 3) To deny your children just because of their sexuality is YOUR arrgoance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted January 11, 2006 Veteran Share Posted January 11, 2006 Being gay is a choice. How would a gay person pass on his/her genes?If its not a choice and its geneitc who passes on the gene? Why dont gay ppl just admit they just want to be gay or would that mean it would hold you accountable for your actions and not some uknown force you can blame. :rofl: You make me laugh. Honestly. That was the most ignorant thing I've ever read. Do you really know any homosexuals? It certainly doesn't seem like it. Meet some and try befriending a couple. Your view will change, without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunamonkey Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Course I didn't. Just like Homosexuals don't choose to be gay. Like I said. I used Choose in place of "Turns out to be gay" That makes it even worse. You'd have nothing to do with your children if they "turned out to be gay" through no fault of their own? Whether your children choose to be gay, or turn out to be gay how does it actually affect you in any way? What are you worried they might do? I'm just curious, your opinion doesn't actually affect me. Just interesting topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasponge Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 1. it doesn't matter whether someone chooses to be straight or gay or if they have simply just felt as if they were always one way or both. there is no proof of a gene that influences sexual orientation and arguments based on this are irrelevant to the fact that people should be accepted no matter what sex they are attracted to at the moment. 2. to nashy: i'm not trying to change your mind or attack you or say you can't have your opinion but let me voice mine without whining about me attacking you. i have heard both sides of the story, many times. i lived both sides of the story. "Well I'm afraid to say, we will always be here, because society will not fully adapt to the gay culture." i am gay, but not a part of "the gay culture" so where do i fit in. i think you have some paranoia issues about the big bad "gay culture" corrupting your children. there is no conspiracy to make everyone gay. lol. being treated like human beings would be nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekun Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 They don't choose. Its something the person is born with. I thought it was prooven years ago. Just like peopl who are straight are straight, people who are gay, are gay. No your misinformed it was never proven. Why would straight ppl pass on gay genes?Show some bit of logic to your reasoning. Shouldnt society have some standards or should ppl just be allowed to do whatever they feel like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I dont think you choose to be gay, straight or bisexual, but you do choose whether you actually ever let yourself follow your heart. It depends on what definition you use for bisexual or straight, wether you define the terms based on the feelings one has towards another or if you base it on someone who actually does get with another person of the same sex. If you choose to use the arguement that feelings alone is enough to classify someone as bisexual, you will probably see the amount of bisexual men and women increase as its quite common at some point for somone to have some repressed interest in another of the same sex. Same applies the other way. So yes, I dont believe one chooses what sex(s) they prefer, but they do choose wha they do with these feelings so either aruement about it being a choice vs not being a choice can be equally valid based on how you define being bisexual (whether you actually have to have dated someone or whether having some form or repressed curiosity at any point in your life is enough). edit: quite a pointless poll BTW. It's expected that your kid would be straight as it's the norm, and even so one should not be disapointed if they were, i Mean COME ON HOW DID YOU GET THE KID IF YOU WERENT STRAIGHT AT SOME POINT (or at least adopted from someone who was). Yes, theres test tube babies but still, I cant see anyone being upset over a straight baby, its ludicrius. I dont think parents should even be ashamed over homosexual kids either too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekun Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 :rofl: You make me laugh. Honestly. That was the most ignorant thing I've ever read. Do you really know any homosexuals? It certainly doesn't seem like it. Meet some and try befriending a couple. Your view will change, without a doubt. And you added what to the topic. You want ignorant read your own rants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 1) I am not in a minority thanks. I am a white, middle-class, educated, straight male. 2) I accept that your opinion is valid to you. But it IS based upon ignorance. 3) To deny your children just because of their sexuality is YOUR arrgoance. So, because I hold an opinon thats different to your's, I'm no un-educated. Yeah, I'm just not going to bother with your posts anymore, because you obviously can't accept other opinons. I'm arrogant and ignorant in YOUR eyes. Not mine. No your misinformed it was never proven. Why would straight ppl pass on gay genes?Show some bit of logic to your reasoning. Shouldnt society have some standards or should ppl just be allowed to do whatever they feel like. People can be gay, people are gay? What are you talking about. They are hear, forever. I'm stating, I don't want my kids to be gay. Oh, and with that, "do whatever they feel like.", I'm sure it should be extended that people won't be ridiculed for having an opinion that differs from the majority of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted January 11, 2006 Veteran Share Posted January 11, 2006 And you added what to the topic. You want ignorant read your own rants. I add open-mindedness. Certainly not ignorance. Just because my opinion is not the same as yours does not make mine ignorant. But what you say shows mountains of ignorance, and I would honestly like to know what sort of rock you're living under to have such arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasponge Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 doesn't it get kind of silly having some sort of test or method to try to determine "what you are"? why is it so important. love knows no gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 That makes it even worse. You'd have nothing to do with your children if they "turned out to be gay" through no fault of their own? Whether your children choose to be gay, or turn out to be gay how does it actually affect you in any way? What are you worried they might do? I'm just curious, your opinion doesn't actually affect me. Just interesting topic. I do not like homosexuals, I have never liked homosexuals. I spend a lot of time around them, I used to work with a few, and I feel very uncomfortable. Thats why. I don't feel comfortable in their presence. Is that alright with everyone here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekun Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 So, because I hold an opinon thats different to your's, I'm no un-educated. Yeah, I'm just not going to bother with your posts anymore, because you obviously can't accept other opinons. I'm arrogant and ignorant in YOUR eyes. Not mine. People can be gay, people are gay? What are you talking about. They are hear, forever. I'm stating, I don't want my kids to be gay. Oh, and with that, "do whatever they feel like.", I'm sure it should be extended that people won't be ridiculed for having an opinion that differs from the majority of the population. Just because they are here dosent mean im going to help them mainstream it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted January 11, 2006 Veteran Share Posted January 11, 2006 I do not like homosexuals, I have never liked homosexuals. I spend a lot of time around them, I used to work with a few, and I feel very uncomfortable. Thats why. I don't feel comfortable in their presence. Is that alright with everyone here? I'm not attacking you in any way. But may I ask why? Have you ever thought about exactly why you feel this way? I mean, if that's the reason you don't like homosexuality, then shouldn't you try to determine the cause of this and put some effort into changing that (if indeed it is changeable)? Please, do not take this as an attack, I am honestly curious as to how you respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Another thing. I don't care how nice the person is, hell, I'm against them being gay. If I happen to be talking to one for 3 hours, and then find out, I'm not going to get up and walk away, I'm not an ass to them, I don't tease them, I don't fight them, I accept them in the world, I just don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekun Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I add open-mindedness. Certainly not ignorance. Just because my opinion is not the same as yours does not make mine ignorant. But what you say shows mountains of ignorance, and I would honestly like to know what sort of rock you're living under to have such arguments. At least i have one you offer nothing. Who called who ignorant first. Are you 12 and just have no grasp of english yet. What does open mindedness mean? I have to accept what everyone does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasponge Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 nashy do you really believe that your being "ridiculed for having an opinion that differs from the majority of the population" compares to the oppression of gay people? laughable. you are not an oppressed group because of the opinion you hold. your opinion is not at all uncommon either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I'm not attacking you in any way. But may I ask why? Have you ever thought about exactly why you feel this way? I mean, if that's the reason you don't like homosexuality, then shouldn't you try to determine the cause of this and put some effort into changing that (if indeed it is changeable)? Please, do not take this as an attack, I am honestly curious as to how you respond. My family is the cause, I will not challenge my family. Like I said, I accept that they are here, I just do not like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayGlider Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 This thread is gonna turn up a mess just like the other poll. Stop wasting ur time peeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat2821 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I don't know what to say. I posted in the other thread and then I seen this one kinda blew my mind alittle. wierd not going to say it is a stupid thread but it is funny made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzaaa Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Well this gets my vote as most stupid thread ever... Agreed, who ever made this poll is a moron. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerm Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 [...] :rolleyes: Lmfao!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leddy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 This is a really, really, stupid thread. It's about as stupid as "Would you be ashamed if your child was human?" Your parents were straight. Your grandparents were straight. Your great-grandparents were straight. Statistically speaking, you're probably straight too. So what's there to be ashamed of? Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted January 11, 2006 Veteran Share Posted January 11, 2006 At least i have one you offer nothing. Who called who ignorant first. Are you 12 and just have no grasp of english yet. What does open mindedness mean? I have to accept what everyone does? I am 19 and I have an excellent command of the English language. It looks like it is you who has no grasp of the English language. Yes, open-mindedness is the idea of being open to everybody and every idea, whether you agree with it or not. Simply be open to it and tolerant of it. And how do I offer nothing? My argument (as I have stated before, but apparently you weren't reading) is that homosexuality is correct (not to say, obviously, that heterosexuality is incorrect) and alright, and it is something that we all need to accept and tolerate. Discrimination against it only leads to anger, which leads to hate, and hate is not good for society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leddy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I don't think that homosexuality is correct or alright, but because I can't really do anything about the global situation here, I might as well accept that this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunamonkey Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 My family is the cause, I will not challenge my family. Like I said, I accept that they are here, I just do not like it. (Y) ok. there are things I don't like also. Good for standing your ground dude. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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