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Optimize RAM in XP


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Don't use a third party RAM app. Third party RAM apps usually just clear your RAM. This makes it look like you've gained more free RAM, but you've actually UN-cached many parts of the OS. Next time you try to use one of these cache portions, you'll experience a crawl. This can result in severe slowdown.

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Originally posted by rossiknol

... but you've actually UN-cached many parts of the OS. Next time you try to use one of these cache portions, you'll experience a crawl. This can result in severe slowdown.

I think you mean:

but you've actually CACHED many parts of the OS

If so... you're right.. ;)

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Jhares, I think Rossiknol really meant UN-cache: the cached code that becomes uncached (due to ram optimization) is not in memory anymore, and this will make disk I/O + recaching necessary if this code is needed again.

I agree more physical RAM is more interesting than a RAM optimizer software. Think this software needs RAM for itself, and needs CPU to make its job.

There's no evident relationship between RAM usage and computer response time, and making more RAM available without changing the physical RAM has a cost.

So I would say: if you can afford the price of a software that optimizes your RAM, then I believe you should rather invest this money in more RAM (or some ther physical resource that might be a bottleneck: by the way, are you sure you've got a RAM problem?).

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I've tried alot of the RAM 'optimizing' programs, and I haven't found one that actually speeds things up. The only time I've seen cleared RAM without a slowdown is by XP itself, with no other programs.

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Originally posted by Baud

Jhares, I think Rossiknol really meant UN-cache: the cached code that becomes uncached (due to ram optimization) is not in memory anymore, and this will make disk I/O + recaching necessary if this code is needed again.

I know what you mean...

I understood "disk cached" or "swapped" when I read that post, because when a module is in memory, that module is not "cached" is simply "in memory", is "loaded"...

A cache is an intermediate memory, not the working RAM... the "virtual memory" seems analogue to the cache concept, because the modules are in an "intermediate memory" in disk... in an "addressable memory format" and there are not need to load that modules from their original locations in the disk again.

Anyways, the basic advice is OK... that proggies just dump the modules in memory to disk, making the machine crawl until almost all the basic modules from the OS are again back in physical memory.

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last time I used a RAM optimizer (a month ago or so) it screwed up my XP install totally. after being only able to boot into windows loading up via "the last good known configuration" the program had still apparently damaged my system so much that I had to do a fresh install of XP. doing a fresh install was already due for some time so it didn?t bothered me a lot.

I think the program was calledwinXP turbo RAM optimizer> or something...

p.s. the only reason I tried that program was cos I was bored...and in a way it did helped me get rid off my boredom for a while

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LOL Gotcha.

I remember using WinProbe from QuarterDeck in Win 95: lots of trouble, nice dashboard, no better answer time.

Where are the good old days of 386Max from Qualitas, or Qemm386, that were used to get the most of Lower-Upper-Extended-Expanded-Memory before Win95?

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I found use for it (btw M$ recommend clearmem)

1st you can use it as a benchmark for your pagefile -

2nd before you run a game

XP will unload unused dll's when the ram is getting full or you've not used them in ages,

when your running games its better unload the dll's yourself, rather than let XP do it when it feels like it.

Apart from that it's pretty useless & the hit you get from dll's being unloaded is negligible, getting them back is the hard part

:ponder:

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Originally posted by JuGGalo

easy get more ram i have 768megs and i never runout or get below 300meg free

Yup... fully agree... the best solution is get more RAM... and let XP do his job unloading the unnecesary.

512 MB here... almost never used virtual memory... just keep closing progs not in use... I hate to have one gazillion of progs running... :p

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yeah well i run up to 7 network dedicated game servers at a local lan i help in, as well as surf the network remote access to the dhcp server and file server, run webpage apps like photoshop 6 and golive 4 all at the same time with 300/400megs free at any time

so more ram is the best option on boot i use 180megs no tweaking on the services

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512Mb ram total

50 As a ramdrive (random crap, internet cache, etc)

I still have never seen my ram fully used (except back in the day when I was having a memory leak problem with UT... it'd fill 512 then eat up my 1Gb of pagefile)

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i have never had any mem leaks with UT or any game a mate did tho with giants the ripped and zipped version running win98 also

xp is good at clearing ram tho but the os is also good at using up a good chunk too

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Originally posted by JuGGalo

i have never had any mem leaks with UT or any game a mate did tho with giants the ripped and zipped version running win98 also

xp is good at clearing ram tho but the os is also good at using up a good chunk too

i forget what exactly caused/fixed it. eventually i got it to stop doing that. so ****ing weird too.

UT owns me to this day, one of the few games i went out and actually payed for ;) (warez before buy... like I should've done with MOHAA :rolleyes: )

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