Are you afraid of going to hell?


If you belive in it, that is  

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  1. 1. Are you afraid you're going to meet the devil?!

    • Yes! burn for eternity...who wants that?!
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    • I'd rather enjoy life and go to hell than the other way around
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    • no such thing as hell
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God, in all likelihood, does not exist. And if he does, hell doesn't exist. So no, I am not scared.

Can't argue with that sound judgement. :huh:

Where's the I'm not too worried option.

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Back to your case, God is perfect and just and almighty. Where do you get off saying that you're better than him because you haven't 'murdered' someone. Neither has He. But He is perfect, and that already gives him a 1-up on you, no? Time to recheck your thoughts! :)

If god is perfect, why did he need to reboot the world with the flood? He even said afterwards that he would never do it again - why didn't he make the covenant the first damn time? Oh wait he already tried the whole trust thing with Adam and Eve, his perfect little creations, who ended up learning something and thus were booted. So let's see... How many times will he trust before he gives up? What is the saying, "fool me once..."?

Can't argue with that sound judgement. :huh:

Where's the I'm not too worried option.

It is extremely sound. If god exists, hell does not. That should go without saying to anyone with a rational mind.

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Well, you're assuming Heaven is a good place, rather than just being the afterlife. God still loves rapists, after all, and tormenting someone for eternity doesn't sound like something you do to a loved one.

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Exactly, Golden Deal.

My point is, that if god does exist, it is highly unlikely to the point of near impossibility that he is the god that is written about in the bible. A god who is complex enough to create a universe does not communicate through a book that is so flawed it is laughable. He would most likely exist in a form and realm that we can not understand. There is no evidence that the candy-coated commercialized god christians believe in actually exists. And as I do not believe the bible (parts of it - such as revelations - written hundreds of years after jesus died) has any merit, the bit about the devil has no merit. I can see, if god were more traditional, that he would punish people by causing them to cease to exist, but sending them to eternal punishment -- bit much for a loving creator don't you think?

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I dont know if i shold post this but, here it goes. My phy prof, gave this example and proved that heaven is hotter than hell :cry:

Example: Heaven is hotter then hell

(Applied Optics 1972, 11, A14)

The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our

authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads, Moreover, the light of the

moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be

sevenfold as the light of seven days. Thus, heaven receives from the

moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in

addition seven times seven (forty nine) times as much as the earth

does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the

moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so

we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature

of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point

where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by

radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the

earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for

radiation

(H/E)4 = 50

where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300?K (273+27). This

gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798? absolute (525?C).

The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less

than 444.6?C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes

from a liquid to a gas. Revelations 21:8: But the fearful and

unbelieving... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire

and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its

temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6?C.

(Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)

We have then, temperature of heaven, 525?C (977?F). Temperature of

hell, less than 445?F). Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.

Note: A REFUTATION OF THE PROOF THAT HEAVEN IS HOTTER THAN

HELL

Dr. Tim Healey, F. R. C. R.; M. I. Nuc. E. in Applied Optics

well decide whic one u got to me more scared:wacko: :wacko:

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Well, you're assuming Heaven is a good place, rather than just being the afterlife. God still loves rapists, after all, and tormenting someone for eternity doesn't sound like something you do to a loved one.

I said or whatever.

If you look at pretty much everything there is a duality. Good/Evil, Hot/Cold, Bright/Dark.

Miran you said what you said like you had made some logical calculation to derive that outcome. It's as asinine as me saying if there is a such thing as God then obviously there can be no heaven.

Exactly, Golden Deal.

My point is, that if god does exist, it is highly unlikely to the point of near impossibility that he is the god that is written about in the bible. A god who is complex enough to create a universe does not communicate through a book that is so flawed it is laughable. He would most likely exist in a form and realm that we can not understand. There is no evidence that the candy-coated commercialized god christians believe in actually exists. And as I do not believe the bible (parts of it - such as revelations - written hundreds of years after jesus died) has any merit, the bit about the devil has no merit. I can see, if god were more traditional, that he would punish people by causing them to cease to exist, but sending them to eternal punishment -- bit much for a loving creator don't you think?

Have you ever even opened a Bible?

Flawed and laughable are pretty brash statements. Considering at least it is one of the most archeologically correct books written.

Mabye you don't believe all the stories. Mabye the stories are allegories and we dont get it. But to write off the Bible without any justification is pretty much in line with the way you concluded there can't be a hell if God exists. Where is the logic? Is there any? Im not even suggesting Mr.Golden Deal is wrong per se. Im just saying you don't make any logical sense.

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Wouldn't be able to sex anyone in heaven either, for example. Definitely not the same gender. Not the opposite gender either, for that matter, since God prefers to see only reproductive intercourse. Reproductive intercourse would be strictly forbidden in heaven, because of original sin.

Heck, wouldn't even be allowed to j*** off up there. Just seems like a boring place to me. Anyway, what do you mean there is more to heaven? If we're talking an experience on a higher mental plane, I don't buy that. God doesn't want any competition (Babel, for example.), so I doubt he'd raise our mental capabilities.

well, as a Christian, i believe that God designed sex; something that nearly everyone desires so much. And if God could make sex such a wonderful thing, cant heaven, be so much better?

Just my two cents, not trying to stick my beliefs down your throats.

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Exactly, Golden Deal.

My point is, that if god does exist, it is highly unlikely to the point of near impossibility that he is the god that is written about in the bible. A god who is complex enough to create a universe does not communicate through a book that is so flawed it is laughable. He would most likely exist in a form and realm that we can not understand. There is no evidence that the candy-coated commercialized god christians believe in actually exists. And as I do not believe the bible (parts of it - such as revelations - written hundreds of years after jesus died) has any merit, the bit about the devil has no merit. I can see, if god were more traditional, that he would punish people by causing them to cease to exist, but sending them to eternal punishment -- bit much for a loving creator don't you think?

I agree off course. God portrayed by religion is laughable to the point of near impossibility. I won't say it about the Bible, because I haven't actually read it. Although I still highly doubt Bible has any credibility to it at all.

If you look at pretty much everything there is a duality. Good/Evil, Hot/Cold, Bright/Dark.

Duality exists only in our minds because our brain logically breaks down parts of our reality into extremes to make things simple. Everything is relative. Hot refers to temperature of a physical body, what is hot for me, is not necessarily hot for you, etc. Dark is the just the absense of light. And there is no such thing as good/evil, at least not in a way we traditionally think about it.

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I don't believe in a hell, and I'm having too much fun in life to be afraid of some after-life legend or be enticed into some bliss that people think can not be obtained in their actual lives.

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I agreed with you

i also agree with you both. and if there was a hell and its like it's described like in movies, i wouldnt want to be there. i live life the way i feel its right, no murder, i don't do things that are sick or twisted.

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I said or whatever.

If you look at pretty much everything there is a duality. Good/Evil, Hot/Cold, Bright/Dark.

That's not really true. Hot isn't the opposite of cold, cold is the absence of heat. Darkness is the absence of light. It's all the same thing, just differing levels. It's not a duality. Also, good and evil is contained within everybody, there is no external force of 'good' and 'evil' in conflict with each other. That sort of thinking just absolves people from personal responsibility.

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Well, I noticed someone said they are enjoying life too much to worry about hell. I enjoy my life becuase I know I'm leading a life that would result in me not going to hell. It just depends on your idea of "enjoyment."

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Well, I noticed someone said they are enjoying life too much to worry about hell. I enjoy my life becuase I know I'm leading a life that would result in me not going to hell. It just depends on your idea of "enjoyment."

That doesn't count as enjoyment, doing something for a perceived future gain isn't enjoyment.

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Why should I base my opinion on what some inexperienced angst filled teenager has to say? God doesn't exist because my goth girlfriend left me? I don't think so. This question will become clearer as people age.

I may not know all the details but as it stands I do believe that there is something up there that has given the world its order. Free will explains all that is evil.

:rofl:

:yes: Agreed

Hell is what YOU make of it ;)

But anwsering the original post, I hope not, i've not lived a sinful life I guess Although I'm only 22, so I've no clue what I might do in my next 100 years. :shiftyninja:

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I don't believe in hell. I personally believe the idea of hell was designed to make people afraid of being "impure". There are people all over the world who do the very best they can to live a positive life and they still suffer more than I will ever know or understand.

If there is something worse than famine, genocides, and indefinite poverty then God is losing the war.

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Nope. when im dead, i won't really care.. God will have no further use for me.. so pack my bags, and give me my 1 way ticket to hell :)

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