Renshaw Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Seen alot of people going on about .NET Just wondering why this is? i cannot see a problem with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Moley! Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Just another thing I have to install to make programs run, like Java or Python. For someone who has like ten different .Net applications it makes sense to have .Net, but for one or two it's a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostspyder Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 ^^ as above, I think thats peoples biggest gripe with it. Also .net is usualy a little slower then something say programed in C because it has more overhead. People also gripe about the memory system and claim .net apps use more memory when in reality the memory they use is only being reserved and if needed will be freed up for the rest of the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohdfaraz Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Just another thing I have to install to make programs run, like Java or Python. For someone who has like ten different .Net applications it makes sense to have .Net, but for one or two it's a waste. if you install windows xp sp2 the dotnet framework gets installed automatically, its also preinstalled in win 2003 server and the upcoming vista so i guess a separete install will not be much of an issue a few months down the line from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renshaw Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 What requires .NET what sort of applictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartyjohnson Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I like how easy it is to program with .NET (c# mostly) but I wish along with this we could bring true portability. Mono isn't really providing what is needed and it is very unlikly that MS will actually help to provide that portability to Linux/UNIX. On another note: Java is really the best language when it comes to portability, but as with seemingly all languages it too has its flaws. It is possibly to write the code in Java and use a wrapper to provide the executable environments including the JRE. Anybody know if you can do this with .NET code? What requires .NET what sort of applictions? Anything that says it requires .NET framework to run. Example is Paint.NET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Moley! Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 if you install windows xp sp2 the dotnet framework gets installed automatically Windows 2003 and Vista I'm not sure about, but SP2 only comes with DX9 and WMP9. Maybe you got it with windows update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Who cares who has a problem with it. If you write .NET apps, then just write em. The few people who hold out will eventually come out of the stone age when .NET apps become more common and they have no choice. It's kind of like the people who hold onto an old OS because "there is nothing wrong with it". Well, no, there isn't, so if you're happy, great, but you're missing out on new features that the rest of us now have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unequivocal Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I like how easy it is to program with .NET (c# mostly) but I wish along with this we could bring true portability. Mono isn't really providing what is needed and it is very unlikly that MS will actually help to provide that portability to Linux/UNIX. Have you tried mono? The only thing that's not near perfect is the Windows.Forms, but even that's getting close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frash Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 lol I like .NET "Hey, I made an application, it's only 200KB*" * requires you to download 20 MB of runtimes Good 'ol days where runtimes were only a few MB large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalguy90 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Just another thing I have to install to make programs run, like Java or Python. For someone who has like ten different .Net applications it makes sense to have .Net, but for one or two it's a waste. Windows 98 SE (i believe) and later (i know Win2000 & WinXP) came with the Visual Studio Files to run C, VB and other VS programs. as mentioned before, Windows XP and Server family come with the .Net framework already. I dont see what the issue is really. anyone who has ever coded in ASP will tell you that ASP.net is much better. Its easier. The core logic of your program is till there, but the monotonous and tedious design part of programming has been laid out easier for a programmer. And the controls are nice. With any language, you'll need some files to run your compiled application (whether Java, .Net, etc.). So expect to download files when new technologies come out. the great thing about java is that it works on any platform. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Moley! Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 as mentioned before, Windows XP and Server family come with the .Net framework already. I dont see what the issue is really. I have Windows XP sp2 and it doesn't have the .net framework. It just doesn't. You are wrong, I don't know how else to put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR7 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 With the raise of speed in internet connections and the obvious over-powered pc systems these days, i dont see whats the problem with downloading 20 mb of runtimes or have a framework installed, which in no way slows down your computer. these people are just exagerating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronMT Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 The only ones complaining are the ones who dont know what the .NET Framework is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostspyder Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 The only ones complaining are the ones who dont know what the .NET Framework is all about. :yes: .net is realy a joy to program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohdfaraz Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Windows 2003 and Vista I'm not sure about, but SP2 only comes with DX9 and WMP9. Maybe you got it with windows update? I am sorry .. my mistake .. it doesnt get installed automatically with SP2 but its available on the official CD's distributed by microsoft. To install the framework let the CD autorun and then you'll need to click "Perform additional tasks", then click "Install .Net Framework". :) i dont think its available with the downloadable version of the SP2 probably to avoid another lawsuit from EU :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Moley! Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 i dont think its available with the downloadable version of the SP2 probably to avoid another lawsuit from EU :whistle: Oh boy, you're one of *those* guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 .NET is that size for a reason. With C/C++ you have to re-invent the wheel each time you make a program. With .NET binaries its all built into the core runtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Moley! Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 .NET is that size for a reason. With C/C++ you have to re-invent the wheel each time you make a program. No, assembler is reinventing the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordkanin Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I don't see what all the fuss is about. It's a lousy little 20 meg download. With broadband as widespread as it is, that's like a 5 minute download for most. Oh, and to add to the list of programs that need .NET: Autodesk has been using a lot of .NET lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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