Proud Of Your Home Country?


Are you proud of your home country?  

477 members have voted

  1. 1. Are you proud of your home country?

    • Yes, very patriotic towards it
      267
    • No, its simply a place of residence to me
      101
    • I'm ashamed of it
      67
    • Other
      42
  2. 2. What country is your "home country?"

    • United States
      140
    • Canada
      56
    • Australia
      32
    • United Kingdom
      97
    • Another American Country Not Listed
      16
    • Another European Country Not Listed
      55
    • China
      7
    • Other
      74


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I don't know who you are to say that we have "artificial values"? You know nothing real about americans. I dare you to come down here. Our values are bred into us. This is something you know nothing about, therefore you should shutup. Second, handing out welfare to 10% of our country doesn't seem like a very good idea like a country like france thinks. Our system of capitalism creates wealth, not steals it. Greed has been proven to be the BEST motivater on the whole planet. In africa when the elephant population was publically owned people killed as many elephants as possible to prevent the next guy from getting it first. They moved the elephant population to private ownership... Their greed was reversed to preserve the species because those elephants were THEIR elephants. Believe it or not YOU are motivated by personal greed. Everytime you whine endlessly about the RIAA shutting down a P2P service you get angry, not because of the RIAA's greed shutting down the server but because you're own wanting to get everything for free. If you want to talk about superficial values why don't you look at yourself first.

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And yes, I do believe that we have more freedom and equality here than the USA will ever have - a true democracy and a state that cares for those lesser fortunate than others, not purely dictated by personal greed and solely superficial values.

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You know nothing real about americans. I dare you to come down here

Who says I haven't been there? Don't ass-ume. I know a great deal about americans, much more than I'd care to - unfortunately.

Our system of capitalism creates wealth, not steals it.

Yes, I'm sure the population below the income line, the countless homeless people and the million+ people you have in the jail all agree how it "creates wealth" and prosperity for all.

But this poll is not a suitable place for this debate.

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My home country should be Friuli, and I'm proud to be Friulian. But unfortunately we're part of Italy, and I'm not proud to be Italian, it's a weird country...

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the population below the poverty line are normally those who are physically/mentally ill. The government pays out social security to these people. Wealth is everywhere in this country. Mexican immegrants come here with NOTHING. The break their backs and work their asses off. They make more than enough money to support their family without having to have their wives work. Those people in jail are criminals, many are very, very rich. Mostly the difference between the well-to-do and the poor in this country is that that the poor never bothered to try to figure out how to progress through the economic ladder. It can some times take alot of trial and error, often times investing money that doesn't pay back. Those willing to take risks will be rich(at least well off) and those who don't... are handing out katshup for a living

Who says I haven't been there? Don't ass-ume. I know a great deal about americans, much more than I'd care to - unfortunately.

Yes, I'm sure the population below the income line, the countless homeless people and the million+ people you have in the jail all agree how it "creates wealth" and prosperity for all.

But this poll is not a suitable place for this debate.

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I'm proud of my heritage, I'm proud of what Britain used to be. But now?

Britain (or at least England) has become a joke. A land catering to those expecting (and receiving) free handouts - we seem to place no value on hard working, respectful people.

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Proud? No.

Too many immigrants whether legal or not.

Its not England anymore. Its not what it use to be, unfortunately.

Multiculturalism baby!

I'm from the UK, and patriotic

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i fear this is the way that most of europe has become. Despite how bad you think britain is, most the rest of europe is in far worse condition. France has more than 10% unemployement and not working for whole months is common. Never stop and think that being secular progressive = progress. Progress in a nation is determined by how hard you're people are willing to work and whether or not you're citizens are willing to die for their nation. Hopefully europe will wake up soon and realize that having a nation of hippies is detrimental to their society.

I'm proud of my heritage, I'm proud of what Britain used to be. But now?

Britain (or at least England) has become a joke. A land catering to those expecting (and receiving) free handouts - we seem to place no value on hard working, respectful people.

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I am happy for people from other country's to come here and get a visa if they plan to work and benefit the country. Why should I mind someone who moves from there country to here to work and live its not like they are doing anything wrong!.

Immigrants however that come here and get free -- EVERYTHING -- are something I am not happy about.

Overall I'm not Proud of England, but that doesn't mean I want to live anywhere else, a home is what you make it and although I'm not proud of England I'm proud of my life that I have made here.

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What is meant by 'another American country' You make it sounds like theres loads...

There are. Would you like a map?

i like were i live in canada (saskatoon) i would like to move west later on in life. but never east of manitoba. EVER EVER EVER

Why not?

LIVE IN NEW ZEALAND, MAYBE SMALL BUT WE HAVE SOME BIG NAMES!!!!! AND BEST RUGBY TEAM IN THE WORLD!!!! :yes:

HAHA AUSSIE, SO MATE HOWS THE DINGO HUNTING GOING!!!! ;)

Turn your CAPS off.

My only issue with Canada is why do they have to put a Maple Leaf on everything Canadian :rolleyes:

It's an identifying national symbol. :blink:

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Just saw a brilliant quote in Fred666's signature, relevant not only for Canada, but also the UK:

Canadian multiculturalism is fundamental to our belief that all citizens are equal. Multiculturalism ensures that all citizens can keep their identities, can take pride in their ancestry and have a sense of belonging. Acceptance gives Canadians a feeling of security and self-confidence, making them more open to, and accepting of, diverse cultures. The Canadian experience has shown that multiculturalism encourages racial and ethnic harmony and cross-cultural understanding, and discourages ghettoization, hatred, discrimination and violence.

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Why would anyone be prod of the united states?

1. They gained there power by stealing land from innocent indians.

2. They used slavery for free labour to get there dirty work done.

3. The country nowadays is going to ba bankrupt soon.

4. Young Americans now wont get social security when they retire.

5. There do for another terrorist attack soon.

6. War with Iran is going to be soon.

7. Most crime out of any other industrial nation.

8. Most single mothers out of industrial natinos.

9. College is more expensive

10. New study shows americans most ignorant out of other industrial nations citizens

11. %70 of USA citizens are fat or obese. The guys most not have a good selection of women.

12. USA cars suck Ford and GM are about to go bankrupt.

13. USA is being bought out by many foreigners such as China. Example IBM and american Icon now owned by China LOL.

14. The Beer is weak. Ask any German and American beer is water to them

15. Average European scortes high on IQ test than average American Citizen.

16. United Nation survey finds USA is not the best place to live in fact its not even in the first 5 countries

17. US doller is weak compared to the Euro

18. Exepsive Health Care

19. Approx 45 million American have no health care

20. USA is no longer the freeest country in the world because of patriot act and other laws.

21. Young americnas most likely will have to be drafted if war with iran and thins are not improving.

22. Many bridges in USA cannot be kept up and mainanced to provide safety so they have to close them down or many of them our being sold to other countries and they provide a toll fee on them, Yes I thought this was crazy 2 our own bridges being sold to over countries!

23. Americans live less than many other industrialied countries.

24. ID theft is so common in USA because the system is so dumb and has everones ID linked to there social security number. SS number should be for SS only like in Europe! so less ID theft happensin europe casue there system is designed better.

25. USA is hated by the rest of the world.

26. USA has more drunk driving accidents and schololics out of the rest of industrialized natinos even though the drinking age is 21.

27. USA has a huge drug problem such as meth more than the other developed nations has.

28. Divorce rate is 50 precent in America.

29. High HIV rate.

30. Poor lack of funding of public schools.

31. European kids in same grade score much higher than American students.

Need I say more??

Im not Hating or anything but I am just wondeing why someone would be proud to be American cause I dont see how someone could.

I live in United Corporate States of America and not proud at all.

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Why would anyone be prod of the united states?

1. They gained there power by stealing land from innocent indians.

-who cares? it's history, it's a dead subject

2. They used slavery for free labour to get there dirty work done.

-dead subject

3. The country nowadays is going to ba bankrupt soon.

-not likely

4. Young Americans now wont get social security when they retire.

-not necessarily true. But you can't blame bush since at the beginning of 2004 he tried reform.

5. There do for another terrorist attack soon.

-there's daily terrorist attacks on americans in the middle east. It's not past due. it's a daily occurance

6. War with Iran is going to be soon.

-i doubt it... other than MAYBE dropping bombs. I can't see Soldiers on the ground.

7. Most crime out of any other industrial nation.

-We also deal with more extreme social and political issues than the rest of the world

8. Most single mothers out of industrial natinos.

-hasn't abortion really helped this country?

9. College is more expensive

-but we have the best colleges in the world. you get what you pay for

10. New study shows americans most ignorant out of other industrial nations citizens

-i would like to know what "ignorant" means in this context

11. %70 of USA citizens are fat or obese. The guys most not have a good selection of women.

-we've at least got past most of the ridicule for this. the rest of the world apparently can't extend their evolved sensibilties to this

12. USA cars suck Ford and GM are about to go bankrupt.

-ford cut thousands of jobs. not likely soon

13. USA is being bought out by many foreigners such as China. Example IBM and american Icon now owned by China LOL.

-we've got an open market. anyone can buy american assessts. Who cares.

14. The Beer is weak. Ask any German and American beer is water to them

-does this even matter?

15. Average European scortes high on IQ test than average American Citizen.

-did you know that america rates highest for innovation has despite having 5% of world population is home to 3/4 of the world engineers and scientists?

16. United Nation survey finds USA is not the best place to live in fact its not even in the first 5 countries

-the UN can suck it. There's nothing wrong with living here

17. US doller is weak compared to the Euro

-who cares? it's an exchange rate. The Yen worth less than a penny and the government hasn't collapsed

18. Exepsive Health Care

-get health care

19. Approx 45 million American have no health care

-these people are retarded and should get health care

20. USA is no longer the freeest country in the world because of patriot act and other laws.

-the patriot act was renewed but restricted. It'll be more restricted every time it expires. This is for the post 9/11 world we live in

21. Young americnas most likely will have to be drafted if war with iran and thins are not improving.

-i doubt there's going to be any draft unless we go to war with china

22. Many bridges in USA cannot be kept up and mainanced to provide safety so they have to close them down or many of them our being sold to other countries and they provide a toll fee on them, Yes I thought this was crazy 2 our own bridges being sold to over countries!

-They are selling the MAINTENANCE of the bridges. Not the bridges themselves. Who cares.

23. Americans live less than many other industrialied countries.

-what do you mean by this?

24. ID theft is so common in USA because the system is so dumb and has everones ID linked to there social security number. SS number should be for SS only like in Europe! so less ID theft happensin europe casue there system is designed better.

-Here's an idea. buy a shredder and don't be a retard on the internet

25. USA is hated by the rest of the world.

-who cares? as said about the UN.. They can suck it.

26. USA has more drunk driving accidents and schololics out of the rest of industrialized natinos even though the drinking age is 21.

-more americans drive than anybody else in the world. Who would have guessed the number would be higher?

27. USA has a huge drug problem such as meth more than the other developed nations has.

-Ya. in america drugs are actually illegal as opposed to canada and many parts of europe.

28. Divorce rate is 50 precent in America.

-this is a disturbing fact but we'll survive but basically a rehash of #8

29. High HIV rate.

-i don't know the rate. i'm sure it's bad but now half as bad as africa and other extremely uneducated parts of the world

30. Poor lack of funding of public schools.

-are you kidding? Schools get paid MORE to fail.

31. European kids in same grade score much higher than American students.

-This is true for public schools for the reasons above, however private schools are the opposite. Private Schools prepare for college.

Need I say more??

i don't know where you got all this self hate. despite all of our problems and all the places i've been in the world i would choose none other than the USofA.

i leave you with this quote

"You can become a French citizen but you will never be French in their eyes, you can become a German citizen but you will never be German, if you become a Spanish citizen, you will never be considered Spanish but... America will embrace you, you will become an American and Americans will see you as one of them, regardless of your customs or your beliefs. If you love America she will love you back."

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Why would anyone be prod of the united states?

1. They gained there power by stealing land from innocent indians.

2. They used slavery for free labour to get there dirty work done.

3. The country nowadays is going to ba bankrupt soon.

4. Young Americans now wont get social security when they retire.

5. There do for another terrorist attack soon.

6. War with Iran is going to be soon.

7. Most crime out of any other industrial nation.

8. Most single mothers out of industrial natinos.

9. College is more expensive

10. New study shows americans most ignorant out of other industrial nations citizens

11. %70 of USA citizens are fat or obese. The guys most not have a good selection of women.

12. USA cars suck Ford and GM are about to go bankrupt.

13. USA is being bought out by many foreigners such as China. Example IBM and american Icon now owned by China LOL.

14. The Beer is weak. Ask any German and American beer is water to them

15. Average European scortes high on IQ test than average American Citizen.

16. United Nation survey finds USA is not the best place to live in fact its not even in the first 5 countries

17. US doller is weak compared to the Euro

18. Exepsive Health Care

19. Approx 45 million American have no health care

20. USA is no longer the freeest country in the world because of patriot act and other laws.

21. Young americnas most likely will have to be drafted if war with iran and thins are not improving.

22. Many bridges in USA cannot be kept up and mainanced to provide safety so they have to close them down or many of them our being sold to other countries and they provide a toll fee on them, Yes I thought this was crazy 2 our own bridges being sold to over countries!

23. Americans live less than many other industrialied countries.

24. ID theft is so common in USA because the system is so dumb and has everones ID linked to there social security number. SS number should be for SS only like in Europe! so less ID theft happensin europe casue there system is designed better.

25. USA is hated by the rest of the world.

26. USA has more drunk driving accidents and schololics out of the rest of industrialized natinos even though the drinking age is 21.

27. USA has a huge drug problem such as meth more than the other developed nations has.

28. Divorce rate is 50 precent in America.

29. High HIV rate.

30. Poor lack of funding of public schools.

31. European kids in same grade score much higher than American students.

Need I say more??

Im not Hating or anything but I am just wondeing why someone would be proud to be American cause I dont see how someone could.

I live in United Corporate States of America and not proud at all.

You are not hating? Laff, eveything you said was hateful or to put the US down. Yea, we have our faults...but so does every other country out there.

Beer is weak?? Yea, maybe so...but you know what...there is a place called a store where they sell many different kinds of imports. Check it out sometime.

We are hated by everyone? Ummm, check your records...we are not, by some yes...but if they **** us of to much, we will invade them as well. :)

Indians and Slavery was over YEARS ago. And we learned from that mistake, well most of us have. Besides, wasnt it the people who came over from Europe who started the slavery? Hmmm, interesting.

What does being fat in america have to do with women? I have seen many women who are with fat people and vise versa. Its not all about looks...

About our cars, well, same goes for the beer statement...we have things called dealerships where you can go and pick out a variety of different cars...look it up sometime.

There are many other flaws in your thinking dude but those were the highlights. The fact that you are comparing the US with any other country is asinine. Each country is different with differnt laws and different ways of living. If everything was teh same then this would be a boring world that we live in. The US is a melting pot full of many different races, ethnicities, and religions.

You are now the most hated person in the US. And if you dont like the US, then move. No one is keeping you here.

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I am extremely proud and happy to live in the United States of America. I feel that President George W. Bush has done a good job considering the circumstances he has had to face. Keep it up, GWB and go America! May we continue to be the land of the free and the home of the brave.

George Bush is a moron and should be brought out in the street and beaten severly. The war in IRAQ is UNFOUNDED. We shouldnt even be in there. What gives us the right to make a country democratic and like the US. I mean, instead of giving a country billions upon billions of dollars we should of used that money to help the poor, reduce the national deficit, or several other reasons.

We still havnt found Bin Laden and you dont even here about him anymore. All you hear about is the taliban and all the US killings in IRAQ.

Say what you will but the only reason we are in IRAQ is to kiss ass for the oil.

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i don't know what you're paying at the pump but i can assure you that americans arn't getting cheap oil from iraq. And you're probably not very good with history so you should probably read up on the clinton doctrine. It was clinton who said it should be the policy of the United States to bring forth regime change in iraq. Bush might not be the brightest of the bunch but Gore and Kerry weren't exactly great picks either.

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So your advice is to leave? Thank God the people who had their land stolen, the slaves who wanted to be free, the women who wanted to vote, the Americans put into interment camps, the non-white Americans who wanted to drink from the same water fountains as whites, the immigrants who face racism everyday, or anybody who thinks that the US can become a better place didn't follow your advice. The US would be empty, except for a bunch of rednecks, hicks, and Pat Robertson.

But hey, three cheers for the red, white, and blue, huh?

Rednecks?...laff, every country has a "redneck" population. And every country faces racism. Have you been living in a hole for your whole live? If so, its time to come out and take in the sunshine. Well, then again you may get ur ass kicked for your stupid comment. So stay in the hole

It's pretty embarrassing to be from the States these days. I mean, a lot of Americans are ignorant and intolerant. It seems our current government promotes that behavior. In fact, I never would want to live in the US unless it was a big city like NYC. The rest of the US seems culturally vapid.

Ignorant and intolerant? Just like ur post?

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i don't know what you're paying at the pump but i can assure you that americans arn't getting cheap oil from iraq. And you're probably not very good with history so you should probably read up on the clinton doctrine. It was clinton who said it should be the policy of the United States to bring forth regime change in iraq. Bush might not be the brightest of the bunch but Gore and Kerry weren't exactly great picks either.

Never said we are getting cheap oil...said we were there for the oil...meaning to stay in good standings in iraq.

Plus, saying and doing is to completely seperate things...clinton said, bush did. I can garantee that if Clinton pulled this crap, people would think the same way about him as they do bush.

And ur right, I dont know much about Clinton and his policies. Probably because at that time I was busy with school, living my life, and other things to give a damn about what was going on in the country. Now I am older, matured (i think, laff) and am more aware of what is going on around me. Got any links on Clintons policies? I would be happy to read them. PM me or something :)

Kerry and Gore are not much better, but you have to determine who is the lesser of the "evils" so to speak. People should have figured that out after the 1st 4 years of bushes term.

I know I went off on kind of a tangent on my replies to this thread, but this thread seemed to turn in to US bashin more so than anything else. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but come on...the line has to be drawn somewhere.

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