soothsayer Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 If you're a linux newbie like myself, and are scared or don't know how to get XGL properly running on your computer. You will be happy to know that... The Kororaa project has released a live CD demonstrating the new Xgl technology for 3D window manipulation and other unusual effects: "Today I am happy to release a Kororaa live CD showcasing Xgl technology. If you would like to find out what it's all about, then download the CD and boot up your PC! The Live CD comes with X.Org 7.0, GNOME 2.12.2, 3D support and of course Xgl. Supported drivers are 'nvidia' (NVIDIA) and 'fglrx' (ATI). Minimum recommended configuration is Pentium 3 with NVIDIA GeForce video card." Find more details on the project's home and download pages. The Kororaa Xgl live CD is available for download from here: kororaa-xgl-demo-livecd-0.1.iso (442MB, MD5); also available via BitTorrent. Source: http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03282#0 I'm downloading this right now, and cannot wait to try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted March 8, 2006 Veteran Share Posted March 8, 2006 Nice find (Y) I'm not interested enough in XGL to bother with setting it up on my own box, but a LiveCD demo sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menge Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 oooooh nice :p downloading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soothsayer Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 And wouldn't you know it.....It doesn't work on any of my machines. Yay and woo. The X server fails to load on my main machine with a Radeon x850xt PE, and the X server loads on my laptop (Radeon 9000), but quickly goes into what I call "psychedelic lines and colors mode". Ah well, I'll mess around with this later, I have homework that needs to get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Worked here, the second time I booted it. However, max res of 1024x768 and no working DHCP or place to enter a static ip made it kinda boring after about 5 minutes. But I'll admit that I'm totally unfamiliar with Linux, so those two things wil probably be easy to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanghoku Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 some xgl screens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soothsayer Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 If / When I get it working, I'll take some. But there are a bunch already available on neowin, and the rest of the web. Plus there are a couple really cool videos that Novell put out, showcasing the effects better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubz Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Worked here, the second time I booted it. However, max res of 1024x768 and no working DHCP or place to enter a static ip made it kinda boring after about 5 minutes. But I'll admit that I'm totally unfamiliar with Linux, so those two things wil probably be easy to fix. Just because there's no gui tools doesn't mean you couldn't get networking to work. For DHCP you could've just done these steps from the command line: 1) dhcpcd eth0 2) vi /etc/resolv.conf Then insert your dns servers in your /etc/resolv.conf file. Lastly have a look at your routing table: michael@loki:~$ netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 196.2.120.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 If you don't have a default gateway just do this: 3) route add default gw x.x.x.x Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Getting at 600KBs off BT, can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcdShdw Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 didnt work for me, got to the x start then blank screen, 9800xt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolerodan Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Inredible, i finally can play with XGL... great live cd. very impressive. Everything seems smooth, fast and just great. the effects just fly! Cant wait for this to get more complete and tested! -Bolero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soothsayer Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 didnt work for me, got to the x start then blank screen, 9800xt Did you look at the X.Org error log? If so, did you get any of the following? (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (a required submodule could not be loaded) (EE) Failed to load module "speedo" (module does not exist, 0) (WW) Radeon: NO Matching Device Section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) I posted this problem in Kororaa's forums, hopefully they can get this figured out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_I am Reptar Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Works great, is it installable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) Pretty cool stuff. The way it tries to auto start X seems kinda buggy. It told me there was an error starting X but the log was blank and after giving me the ugly xserver with the patterned background it eventually started GDM. It runs pretty smooth though I suspect that is partly because the default resolution is 1024x768. 1280x1024 things slow a bit. For 9000 and below ATI cards, fglrx doesn't support them. So the open source drivers must be used but Kororaa doesn't seem to do that. This probably includes the newest Radeon cards too. Edited March 10, 2006 by Rob2687 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menge Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Got it to run :) runs smooth at 1024x768. Couldn't get it to run at higher res (no selection allowed - even though my monitor and video card can go higher). I'm not a Linux geek, so I don't know what confs to edit in order to get it to go at a higher res. everything runs smooth as silk (except window resizing). looks very impressive. I wouldn't mind getting this kinda eye candy on my desktop everyday :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandaevus Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 As specified on http://getkororaa.com/ * Supported drivers are "nvidia" (nVidia Geforce and higher) and "fglrx" (ATI r350, r300, r250 and r200. Older cards not yet supported). Not sure what you ATI guys are complaining about, checking the info on the site says your cards don't work. I have to add though that this is due to Xgl itself and not the live CD. Xgl hardly supports ATI cards at all. You'll just have to wait and see. Stealth-X answer is no, it's not installable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka5ha Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 So, how does one change the resolution. BTW works perfectly with a 6800GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted March 19, 2006 Veteran Share Posted March 19, 2006 So, how does one change the resolution. BTW works perfectly with a 6800GT.Well, the quick way to change resolutions is to use CTRL+AL+[num pad plus] or [num pad minus].This will cycle through the listed resolutions in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. If your conf file doesn't list the correct resolutions, you will have to edit it before being able to select those resolutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msg43 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I've tried this on two boxs which normally run widnows with no luck... its probably the fact one had a little ram and the other one was running on acient monitor. Ok not that old but it can only max 1024x768 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justrezzo Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Works great, is it installable? This LiveCD haven't a installer... but you can. Check this: http://kororaa.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka5ha Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Thank you for the tip. I'm a bit new to Linux and could not edit the xorg.conf file, because it is read only. When I tried su it asked for root password. I left blank and just hit enter (no root pw asked for when booting live CD). So my question is, how do I edit this xorg.conf file, or how do I get root priviledges on this live CD. Thanks! Well, the quick way to change resolutions is to use CTRL+AL+[num pad plus] or [num pad minus]. This will cycle through the listed resolutions in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. If your conf file doesn't list the correct resolutions, you will have to edit it before being able to select those resolutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justrezzo Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Nice guide to install Kororaa Xgl to hd. http://cobralgato.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcdShdw Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 oh so thats why no ATi support, figures lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 will it work on VIA S3 Unichrome IGP? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justrezzo Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 NVIDIA Cards found to be supported * nVidia GeForce 256 Pro (with nvidia-glx-1.0.7174) * nVidia GeForce 2 Go 16Mb (with nvidia-glx-1.0.8178) * nVidia GeForce 2 MX 200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 2 MX 440 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 2 Pro (with nvidia-glx-1.0.7174) * nVidia GeForce 3 (with nvidia-glx-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 3 Ti 200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering) * nVidia GeForce 3 Ti 500 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 4 MX 420 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 4 MX 440 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178) * nVidia GeForce 4 Go 440 64Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 4 MX 4000 64Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4800 SE 128Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce FX5200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering) * nVidia GeForce FX5500 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering) * nVidia GeForce FX5600 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering) * nVidia GeForce FX5700 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce FX5700 LE (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce FX5900 XT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6200 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce Go 6600 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6600 GT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6700 XL (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6800 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3, no direct rendering) * nVidia GeForce 6800 LE (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6800 GT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6800 GS (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6800 Go (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 6800 XT (installed the nvidia.com drivers (don't know if i have the normal 2 installed, heh) * nVidia GeForce 6800 XT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 7300 GS (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 7800 GT (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) * nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX Go (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178) * nVidia Quadro FX4000 (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3) ATI Cards found to be supported * ATI Technologies Inc R200 BC [Radeon All in Wonder 8500] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3, only rootless) * ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Mobility Radeon 9200SE M9+] (with xorg-drivers, tested on iBook PPC) * ATI Technologies Inc RV300 NE [Radeon 9700 Generic] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5) * ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5) * ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5) * ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AR [Radeon 9600] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5) * ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600Pro] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5) * ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Radeon 9800Pro/XT] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5) * ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5, though I do experience random lockups) * ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5, OpenGL apps/MPlayer crash X, screenshots garbled) * ATI Technologies Inc [Radeon X700] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5 on amd64 all seems ok) * ATI Technologies Inc R420 JK [Radeon X800] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5, OpenGL windows render black, MPlayer and XScreenSaver crash X) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (with ati-drivers 8.22.6) * ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9700] (with ati-drivers 8.22.5) * ATI Technologies Inc RV200 [Mobility Radeon 7500] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3, works slow with 24 bpp, flickering, some bitmaps not redrawn properly, slow video, black windows with 16 bpp) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] (with xf86-video-ati-6.5.7.3, no direct rendering, slow video) * ATI Technologies Inc M10 NT [FireGL Mobility T2] (with kororaa-xgl-demo-livecd-0.1) Cards NOT Supported * ATI Technologies Inc R200 BC [Radeon All in Wonder 8500] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5, distorted screen) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5, distorted screen) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 02) (distorted screen) (works for me with Xorg open source drivers -Cardoe@gentoo) (Xgl works with both drivers but compiz returns distorted screen with ati-drivers-8.22.05 or latest 8.23.7 from ati. Missing power of two with open-source drivers) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9200 Pro (RV280 5960) (with ati-drivers-8.22.05, distorted screen) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9200SE (RV280 5964) (with ati-drivers-8.22.05, distorted screen) * ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 [FireGL 8800] (with ati-drivers-8.22.5, distorted screen) * ATI Technologies Inc [Radeon X600] (Kororaa XGL Live CD 0.1, distorted screen) * nVidia GeForce 4 Go 420 32Mb (with latest nvidia-glx-1.0.8178 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.8178-r3)(problems in refreshing windows content) NOTE: Your video card might be listed in the Supported list and it still might not work. This is due to different manufacturers settings which can be different for models from other manufacturers. Do not fear. The 2nd release will correct more problems. // source: djpharoah, kororaa forums mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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