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Good windows MP3/OGG player?


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What good software MP3 players are there for Windows 2000? I've a few simple requirements:

- Stable .ogg support

- Non-bloated

- Free form skins with a fair selection available (I want a presentable skin to sit Always-on-top at the top right of my screen so it must be narrow heightwise so it doesn't obscure toolbars - max height twice the width of a Windows title bar).

WinAMP3 is bloated and tries it's damnest to annoy me at every opportunity. WinAMP2 doesn't have free form skins. I've used Coolplayer until now but it has a tendancy to crash when playing ogg files and all newer versions have been done by a different group (on sourceforge) and now it's a load of crap so I can't update.

What else should I give a go?

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Originally posted by Quboid

- Free form skins with a fair selection available (I want a presentable skin to sit Always-on-top at the top right of my screen so it must be narrow heightwise so it doesn't obscure toolbars - max height twice the width of a Windows title bar).

WinAMP2 doesn't have free form skins.

check out NeoMetalAMP for winamp3. that's the only skin you will need.

as for winamp2, why don't you roll it up and put in titlebar? that's how i used it b4 winamp2 started to crash i upgraded to NeoMetalAMP

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Originally posted by MxxCon

check out NeoMetalAMP for winamp3. that's the only skin you will need.

do you have a link? and yes i googled it already.

nevermind google doesn't know about it, yet winamp.com does. just go here.

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I used Coolplayer, read my post. What the hell did they do with that playlist editor?? domino doesn't seem to have freeform skins (or any skins bar the default). The best I've found is QCD. I'm not going near WMP! It's bloated, gives poor performance and bad quality sound.

I'm having a look at that WinAMP3 skins and it's not bad. The main annoyance with WimAMP3 is the playlist editor. In particular, how do I show the paths of the files? I have kinda of strange with my playlists - I have all but my best songs on my main playlist. Enigma and a couple of U2 albums aren't there because they're too good and I don't want to over-listen them. However, as I'm continually adding to my collection, the handiest way to add new arrivals is to delete the playlist, add everything with an "Add directory" action and delete the few albums I want removed. Without seeing the paths, and with strange sorting (the directory "Rock_II" before "Rock"??)

Also, my logitech keyboard's audio controls don't work with it, although I'll have a go at hacking the config file like with did to get Coolplayer working.

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Studio.exe currently using 21384KB

Coolplayer.exe currently using 3256KB

Same playlist, similar length song.

Go figure.

I got my keyboard to work with WinAMP3 and while doing that foiund and fixed a problem it had with WinAMP2 and Coolplayer (my hack was based off the WinAMP2 entry so it kept the driver's bug). If anyone has a logitech (Cordless Optical Desktop, the cool black one in my case, I assume the drivers use the same config for all their keyboards with medai controls on) keyboard which they want an MP3 player to work with, PM me.

The biggest problem with Coolplayer is it crashing while playing .oggs. This may be fixed in newer versions, unfortunately they are messed up big time. However - I tried the .oggs in WinAMP and it too gave errors, although it allowed me to click on "OK" and play on rather than crashing thw whole program. Could it be the .oggs which are bust? I ripped them with CDex 1.50b7, which has the RC3 ogg DLLs. Is there any way to get this to rip OGG1.0 files?

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