.stan Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) A source close to Microsoft told german Windows enthusiast site WinFuture about plans to introduce a new version of the windows genuine check. According to the source the activation of Windows XP is going to be required to get access to ALL downloads listed in Microsofts Download Center. Additionally a message will pop up every time the system boots, if Windows has not been activated yet. The message will remind the user of activating Windows and start the validation process via WGA. Full Article (german): http://winfuture.de/news,25013.html Digg it: http://digg.com/software/No_Windows_Update...ion_of_WGA_soon. Edited April 20, 2006 by .stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Even security updates? :blink: Hell might break loose in that case. For legit consumers by infected pirated copies through open unpatched security holes starting to mass-mail or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 What if i'm just testing a Windows installation on another hard drive and plan to take it off without activating? This will cause so many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnuke Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I thought they were at least allowing illegal copies to have security updates or you could have whole networks of illegal copies of XP being virus servers sending out nasties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laz45 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't see anything wrong with this. The only people getting viruses will be the illegal copies. If you own a copy you would have all the updates installed and would not have to worry about viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.stan Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 Even security updates? :blink: Hell might break loose in that case. For legit consumers by infected pirated copies through open unpatched security holes starting to mass-mail or something like that. Yes, even for security updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten T Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I currently cant use windows Update but auto update is fine, will this stop auto update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCypher Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't quite understand MS's reasoning behind this. Don't you have 90 days to activate? It seems like you should be allowed to get updates (especially security updates) during that time period. What about all those volume licensed versions that seem to be popular among the pirates? Those versions don't require activation so they should be unaffected which sort of defeats the purpose of all of this, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertin Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Newsflash MSFT! WGA is pointless. Someone will always find a way to trick or crack it, WGA is just another inconvenience for the average Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't quite understand MS's reasoning behind this. Don't you have 90 days to activate? It seems like you should be allowed to get updates (especially security updates) during that time period. What about all those volume licensed versions that seem to be popular among the pirates? Those versions don't require activation so they should be unaffected which sort of defeats the purpose of all of this, no? yeah I do think you should have that 90 day window but beyond that I see no reason why MS should allow pirated copies to get updates. Even that 90 day window doesnt seem that important as all you have to click is one button to activate the product.And yeah someone mentioned legit customers who had been sold illegal copies. I see this as no real reason not to block them, the customer shouldnt be punished but it will allow MS to catch people illegally selling XP sooner and I'm sure customers would be assisted in some form. The only problem is arent most patched released in an execuable form anyway? with only about 5 patches a month its only about 5 or 6 mins ectra to download them seperatly, especially since MS links to the KB articles. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.stan Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 I currently cant use windows Update but auto update is fine, will this stop auto update? Yesh, this will stop auto update :alien: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viciv Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 it's :devil: :devil: :devil: :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootWind Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Yes, even for security updates. Are you sure, it doesn't seem like it. "According to the source the activation of Windows XP is going to be required to get access to ALL downloads listed in Microsofts Download Center" It says you need to activate to get all downloads, so I would assume you could technically still access some downloads, such as security updates without activation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devn00b Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't see anything wrong with this. The only people getting viruses will be the illegal copies. If you own a copy you would have all the updates installed and would not have to worry about viruses. The problem is when these types of boxes get infected they can turn into DOS (Denial of Service) boxes, or be used to spam. Wich in turn slows down networks. Bandwith isnt free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.derosa Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 quit whining and just buy the damn product if you want microsoft's services its only fair to pay them for what they are doing or im sure you could use that 3rd party win update site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagamer34 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't see anything wrong with this. The only people getting viruses will be the illegal copies. If you own a copy you would have all the updates installed and would not have to worry about viruses. Viruses can never spread to you if there aren't other infected computers. More computers than can get a virus = more people to give the virus to YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thagame Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 it's :devil: :devil: :devil: :p why? because pirates cant update thier pcs and only the people that buy it will get the benefits of paying. i dont see anything wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePitt Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 oh. This sounds such a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I have an idea. Network access should be blocked until activated the computer goes through WGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 wga = noob wpa = noob vlkc = noob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNay Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Umm how is this going to stop pirates? There's been activation cracks for years now, I guess the corporate ones will just have issues. On that note, I hope corporations who do have legal copies don't get screwed in the end, it's happened before :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue` Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Even if MS do manage to block illegal users from the Windows Update website, there are a number of ways to still get the updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon2611 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 why? because pirates cant update thier pcs and only the people that buy it will get the benefits of paying. i dont see anything wrong with that heres the situation microsoft block pirated xp from security updates. droves of systems get infected by virus due to unpatched exploit. these droves of systems turn into a massive botnet which launches spam, phishing, virus and DDOS attacks. so actally NO its not a good idea to stop the pirated XP from getting security updates because all these zombie machines can be used to attack the Paying customers... Of course maybe if XP didnt cost a fortune more people would pay for it. i rekon if it was under ?50 and covered all your pcs in your home (or each additional pc was like ?10 more) then they might do better at selling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnuke Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Always autopatcher, the pirates choice. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohdekill Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 The problem is when these types of boxes get infected they can turn into DOS (Denial of Service) boxes, or be used to spam. Wich in turn slows down networks. Bandwith isnt free. So let's just have Microsoft give them 7 days to activate then it automatically erases the disk partitions. No one is that busy that they can't activate within 7 days. And, it prevents a machine from becoming DOS boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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