HD-DVD VS Blueray


HD-DVD VS Blueray  

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  1. 1. Which One Do You Support

    • HD-DVD
      21
    • Blueray
      40
    • Neither - Holding Back For Now
      23
    • Neither - Fine With DVD
      8
    • Neither - Both Seem Good
      8


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Apaprently there will be a format war between HD-DVD and Blueray. I was wondering which one the majority of people here went for. Reasons why are also appreciated.

For me its blueray based of the 50gb dual layer and low price per disc.

Simsie

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I say Blu-Ray assuming the studios use it's ability to have both the HD and SD version of the film on the same sidee just on different layers. I'm a big fan of stuff that works on what you have now and works even better on what you buy later, I've got a ton of SACD's that I bought just because they play in my cd player and if I ever get a SACD player then I get to listen to them in 5.1 or enhanced stereo, yay! Hoping Blu-Ray does the same with some hybrid type thing.

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Blue-Ray has the edge in almost every aspect...also there is PS3, and content, need I say more?

yes $100 HD-DVD Xbox 360 addon which connects to Vista as well + HD DVDs with Hybrid Discs, one side DVD, second side HD DVD

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yes $100 HD-DVD Xbox 360 addon which connects to Vista as well + HD DVDs with Hybrid Discs, one side DVD, second side HD DVD

Flippers are the devil, I hate flippers. It's just me, maybe some like it, but I can't be arsed to protect both sides of a disc, that's too much for me and my coffee table.

Anyways, throw in the total cost for a 360 and the HD-DVD add-on and you're looking at 399 to 499 so not really that great of a deal compared to the PS3.

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yes $100 HD-DVD Xbox 360 addon which connects to Vista as well + HD DVDs with Hybrid Discs, one side DVD, second side HD DVD

not sure what you point here is? Its an add-on, not standard, and whats to stop them from having Blue-Ray be two sided?

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not sure what you point here is? Its an add-on, not standard, and whats to stop them from having Blue-Ray be two sided?

Nothing really, but it doesn't have to be, HD-DVD does. Of course if the studios decide to make flippers on Blu-Ray I'll be ticked but I'm hoping for the best.

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not sure what you point here is? Its an add-on, not standard, and whats to stop them from having Blue-Ray be two sided?

Well that's the trump card - Blu-ray won't need to be flipped over to be a DVD. It'll be able to hold a hi-def movie and a standard DVD on the same side.

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Well that's the trump card - Blu-ray won't need to be flipped over to be a DVD. It'll be able to hold a hi-def movie and a standard DVD on the same side.

thats not a trump card, its a waste of 30gb of space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHD_Interactive_Format

iHD is only available on HD-DVD even if Disney is on both Bluray or HDDVD side, Bluray uses pure Java, iHD uses XML and ECMA

HD is a format developed by Microsoft and Toshiba for providing interactive features for HD DVD, the next-generation high definition video discs. It is an open specification, which has been developed with inputs and support from hollywood movie studios, especially Disney. Microsoft's upcoming Operating System Windows Vista will include inbuilt support for iHD.

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Technology

iHD allows interactivity to be authored into a data format using XML and ECMAScript (standardized JavaScript) as its interpreted scripting engine. In contrast, the competing Blu-ray high definition video discs will use BD-J, which is a version of Sun Microsystems' Java, for authoring interactive features.

Since iHD is based on XML, it is not limited to being used on optical media. It can even be used on media delivered or streamed over the internet or any other network.

pictures of iHD in action on Vista

http://ces.betanews.com/entry/HD_DVD_and_i...tion/1136757415

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iHD is based upon Ecma Script and XML, and is an open specification developed by Microsoft with input from studios such as Disney. iHD will enable transparent overlays of menus and special features atop a playing movie. The HD DVD movie was playing on a Windows Vista machine, and iHD was impressive to say the least.

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plus from Microsoft development blogs

[qoute]At the moment we are using Visual Studio to do development, since iHD is XML and ECMAScript. Visual Studio provides both XML and ECMAScript authoring support, as well as ECMAScript debugging.

You can also use Eclipse or any other IDE that supports XML and script. You could even use Notepad if you wanted to :-)

Graphics can be created in your favourite program such as Photoshop, as long as it outputs PNGs or JPEGs.[/qoute]

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost....366554&SiteID=1

more screens

nec_hddvd_content.jpg HWZ.com

nec_03.jpg BR.com

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well what was the thing with DVD+R and DVD-R? They were more alike in terms of size but eventually all the recorders, readers support them both.

I think this will happen to these formats too.

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Lol, like the menu is what people care about. Most people want to just watch their movie not play around with screen cluttering menues while they're watching it. How many people actually used the white rabbit feature of the Matrix DVD? Further, I'd say fancy menus and special features are a bigger waste of space than backwards compatability with todays DVD players.

Movies are an inherintly uninteractive experience, dressing it up with some lame psuedo interactive menu isn't going to change anything, it's a novel gimmick that will be all but forgotten within a year.

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I am waiting for one or the other to die... I am fine with dvd so I am sticking with it until there is one new format this two format thing is bollocks

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I am waiting for one or the other to die... I am fine with dvd so I am sticking with it until there is one new format this two format thing is bollocks

yeah i agree with you, im not really strongly opinionated about this and i think it would be crazy to buy a hd player now. when one format dies you will be able to get a much smaller cheaper and better player. i can wait.

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I don't why everyone is jizzing their jeans over HD. Let the tech mature before jumping in.

Seriously, is the difference between DVD and HDDVD/BLURAY really that great?? It's not like we are going from VHS to DVD.

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Blu-Ray. Because the only advantage HD-DVD has is it's cheaper. Blu-Ray holds more data (very usefull for back-ups) and has more studio/hardware support. Both formats use the same codecs (MPEG2/H264/VC1), have managed copy, have advanced interactive features (you can do the same things in iHD and Java), have the capability for hybrid discs, etc... Feature-wise, they're essentially the same.

And I'd like to add one more failed sony format to the sony-haters list. The CD. What a complete failure that was. I mean, come on. Who in their right mind uses CDs? Oh wait...

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If the PS3 fails, then my money's on HD-DVD. If the PS3 is highly successful, it doesn't take an idiot to guess that with a bunch of Blu-Ray players out there for fairly cheap prices, Blu-Ray will triumph.

That said, I don't really care. I got screwed when I got a Plasma TV that doesn't support HDCP. Eventually, I'll have to change all five of my monitors when I want to watch full-HD content from either format (after the initial "grace" period where the companies start going full-on with the HDCP); since none of my monitors support HDCP. And oh yeah, neither do any of my graphics cards. So I'm screwed in the sense that none of my components currently support HDCP, even if I end up purchasing one of the two types of drives.

TBH, though, while HD content looks great, I could be watching standard defintion stuff and not be miffed about it in the least...

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Bluray seems the better of the two, but I think people will be alot less likely to adopt it because most will have shelled out for HDDVD players.

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As previously stated Blu-Ray seems to be the best format and I think the success of the PS3 will determine its uptake... considering it will be highly subsidised and that Blu-Ray players will be more expensive the PS3 plays a critical role in its success. HD-DVD is cheaper in the short-term but I don't think saving a bit of money in the short term is the best idea, particularly when capacity will become an issue for the recordable versions.

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Oh not this again. The intelligent thing to do in this whole situation is to just sit the damn thing out and wait to see which format comes out on top, thats if either of them even see widespread adoption.

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Oh not this again. The intelligent thing to do in this whole situation is to just sit the damn thing out and wait to see which format comes out on top, thats if either of them even see widespread adoption.

Sit out of hi-def movies? For how long, two-three years? What's the point when it will probably be like the DVD+R/-R situation? Both will be sold, players will support both of them and they will coexist, with Blu-Ray probably becoming the overall winner thanks to the extra capacity. I can't see Blu-Ray failing when it is built into the PS3, whether it will win is a different matter though. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Sony fan but I'm happy to buy a PS3 when they're subsidising the cost so heavily... Blu-Ray players are expected to cost around $800-1000, the PS3 has to be cheaper than that.

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