Is Neowin going downhill?


Is Neowin going downhill?  

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  1. 1. Is Neowin going downhill?

    • Yes
      117
    • No
      163
    • Yes, but only because of a select few members
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Blackie pleeease.

OMG I CALLED HIM A BLACKIE BUT HE CALLED ME A WHITIE BUT I'M THE RACIST RIGHT? LOOL OMG

Yes (hope you know I know you were illustrating - I hope)

The site itself is not going downhill, it is the members are. And that is just simply because there are more people joining, hence it is just some laws of averages at work.

I have been here a few years now, not super long but a few, so I have seen a growth in the member base itself. So since the number of members is growing, so is the number of jackass' and idiots.

There always has and always will be those members who just like to cause trouble and be idiots.

Anytime you get a group of people together, wether it is in an online forum, a bar, the movies, etc. etc., there will always be those select group of people present that just have to be idiots. So because there are more members, it appears as if the site is worse, when in reality it is the same quality it always has been, it is just more noticeable because the number of idiots is higher.

So I guess my short answer is it is, and it is not.

The truth is, it is what you choose to make it to be. If that makes any sense.

Totally agree.

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when compared to the days that I started participating in this forum, that's a definate YES! :no:

In fact, I hardly even sign in anymore. (You'd think I'd have a few more posts than I do, but it just goes to show you.....someone wants/needs your opinion, you give it, and then you are blasted/warned/flamed off of the board. I've become weary about trying to help folks out on here. I miss the days where someone's help/opinion really mattered on here.)

Now, my browser points elsewhere........

<quote>"Blackie pleeease.

OMG I CALLED HIM A BLACKIE BUT HE CALLED ME A WHITIE BUT I'M THE RACIST RIGHT? LOOL OMG" </quote>

See the mentality level? I simply cannot deal with morons.

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Sorry but I don't have the time to read all thse pages. But this is my opinion.

I agree with obiwankenobi... when compared to the old days (I can only speak for the past 2 years) it's definately going downhill; but again it's still one of the best boards and news source on the net so it's not a huge downhill :p And these are some things why I think so:

1. I don't mind 'Post your...' threads if they are related to IT. Otherwise everything else is crap since this is a Tech forum. Basically useless threads have increased drastically since 2004... and I mean a lot.

2. News isn't the same as 2 years ago.

... Other than that everything seems alright and I'm still happy with Neowin, more than 2 years ago :)

EDIT: I agree with Orange... some members are stupid and not mature. It could be a 12 year old and it could be a 30 year old... I'm talking in general. Stupid replies and posts are increasing, maybe we're noticing this because members are increasing, but its' still the truth.

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Not really down hill i would say so so members are a pain in the ass due to them having to report every thing. Even if i said SHUT UP to some one they would complain to mummy. :laugh: :rofl:

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I don't think as a whole the site has gone down hill. The reason I frequent this site is to take in all the great work that the artistically talented people produce, and they still come, and I still take it all in. This site seems to attract very talented people and they in turn tend to be very sharing, even some that get bashed due to their age, such as the 15 and under crowd.

Some posters are reflecting their age and interests. They are also acting thier age and thier passions so to speak. So, if a couple of 12 year olds get into an argument online, what do you expect? They are passionate and acting their ages, not immaturely. This is just a slice of society and its interests, and that is where the mods come in. If you have a problem, it can't be with the site, it must be with who moderators with what is allowed to be posted. I believe that the site is moderated very well with the exception of a couple double standards which will never be corrected due to the political correctness that has permeated every level of society especially the internet. So that is to be expected.

As far as the dissenters such as the guy who posted on homosexuality and his endevours to "educate" those who disagree, and those who are offended by everything, these are minor issues. Political correctness and not common sense tend to steer these passionate topics because those who are not "educated" are not entitled to thier opposing opinions because the only fault with them is that they depart from the trend, and the backlash is to be expected and indifferently brushed off. So, all in all, I think the site represents itself well and like life, you'll get your whiners and moaners who just can't accept any level of authority or truth, just thier own.

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I don't think as a whole the site has gone down hill. The reason I frequent this site is to take in all the great work that the artistically talented people produce, and they still come, and I still take it all in. This site seems to attract very talented people and they in turn tend to be very sharing, even some that get bashed due to their age, such as the 15 and under crowd.

Some posters are reflecting their age and interests. They are also acting thier age and thier passions so to speak. So, if a couple of 12 year olds get into an argument online, what do you expect? They are passionate and acting their ages, not immaturely. This is just a slice of society and its interests, and that is where the mods come in. If you have a problem, it can't be with the site, it must be with who moderators with what is allowed to be posted. I believe that the site is moderated very well with the exception of a couple double standards which will never be corrected due to the political correctness that has permeated every level of society especially the internet. So that is to be expected.

As far as the dissenters such as the guy who posted on homosexuality and his endevours to "educate" those who disagree, and those who are offended by everything, these are minor issues. Political correctness and not common sense tend to steer these passionate topics because those who are not "educated" are not entitled to thier opposing opinions because the only fault with them is that they depart from the trend, and the backlash is to be expected and indifferently brushed off. So, all in all, I think the site represents itself well and like life, you'll get your whiners and moaners who just can't accept any level of authority or truth, just thier own.

I think we can close the thread. This guy sums it up 100%.

Its not gone down hill, its just people come here from different ages and cultures. If something ticks you off just ignore it, thats the beauty of the interwebnet.

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well neowin is nothing like at its old days but i still visit, it has gone through many changes *wink wink*and i still like it, i'll just ignore threads and discussion that i dont wanna get involved with or that offends me, so far so good :p

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Thank You Sir (Y) And as is often the case, I also agree with you on your opinion as well. 110% actually.

I was actually just talking to someone about this the other day via PM's. The reason I initially joined Neowin is I needed help with the first PC computer I built. My first hundreds of posts were mainly either in the Hardware Hangout, Drivers Discussion and Assistance, the Mac Forums since I was a Mac user for about 4 years prior to building my Windows Comp, and finally the PC Gamer section, because the whole reason I built a Windows comp was literally just for gaming itself.

It took me quite some time before I even ventured into other sections of the forums that were non-tech related. However when I finally did, thanks to the tone set by the members within the tech forums themselves, I approached the non tech related sections with the same mindset as the tech sections. That mindset was if I had something to say that was helpful or beneficial to the thread itself, then I would post in it.

So because my initial experience were also almost all tech related, literally from day one Neowin to me was people helping other people out when they could. Then it also became a place where like minded individuals could share their thoughts and opinions in a respectful manner with each other, even if they had different views on things and totally disagreed with each-other, it would still remain civilized 98% of the time.

I think nowadays to many people decide to join and tech related stuff is the absolute last thing on their minds. They view the site more as a social free for all where anything goes it seems. I honestly am not really sure what is going through their heads because I am not them, but they are missing the fundamental ways to treat other members, which as you stated was first dicated by the tech side of it all, which some newer members and even older individuals seem to completely overlook.

I do also agree with what some other people have mentioned as well. It really is just an extension of society on a whole. Especially if you look at the younger generation and their overall lack of respect they have for other people, it would only make sense that the "**** you and everyone else except me" mindset would carry over into on online forum.

When you really sit back and think about it, In all honestly, Neowin really is quite an interesting sociological case study. It seems nowadays people in society think disrespecting another person is a sign of their superiority over that person they are disrespecting. So of course, especially when hiding behind a username and a monitor, it gives them a power trip they are more than likely incapable of in the real world. Hence they will disrespect someone online they do not even know without any hesitation at all.

I mean think about it, do you honestly think some of the people here who are known trouble makers act like that in real life? Sure, maybe some of them really do and they truly are deviants, but my educated guess would be that most of them are the exact opposite. I have seen comments on here from one member to another that would get you in a physical confrontation in the real world no questions asked. However the fact you are more or less anonymous makes a lot of people talk much bigger and bolder than they ever really would in real life. Unfortunately for some people, they approach it all as a way to act in a manner that they never would, or for that matter could act, in real life.

With that said, Just the fact we have people from all over the world that are members, and the overwhelming majority of the members are respectful of each-other and there are only a few rotten apples in the bunch, really does say a whole lot about what a truly unique and successful website Neowin truly is.

Sorry to sound so preachy at times and also for writing so much. However it truly is an interesting question and topic to me. One that has so many different angles and theories, I, along with many others I am assuming, could probably write a book about the phenomenon of on online forum based community if I had the time to do so. There are truly so many dynamics involved from a sociological standpoint that this discussion could probably go on forever.

Damn, I need to go to sleep. :rofl:

(Y) I should have just quoted DL rather than type my post he pretty much says what I was thinking but did not have the time to type :D

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i voted that it is going downhill.

neowin no longer has the same "community" feel that it used to have. I still remember the good old days with the "elite movers" and the thumbs up pics...those of you that have been here long will know exactly what i mean. the general attitude of the entire site was completely different.

People here now are not here for the same reasons they used to be. Before, people were here to contribute because they wanted to help the community. Now certain sections have become nothing but areas for self promotion or flame fests.

I realize that with a site this popular it will have many more members that are much less tech oriented and we should all learn to deal with it, but it's just not the same. I used to consider neowin one of the best sites on the internet but as time goes by i find it harder and harder to do so.

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I do agree that many times Neowin loads very slow or shows SQL database errors but considering that it is free I can't really complain but I do hope this gets improved

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The site will never go down, the members will. Too many 12 year old ethugs who think they are right no matter what, too many fanboys, too many people get offended when someone corrects them. This is why a select few have stopped coming here regularly, myself included.

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neowin ain't all that bad... there are worst forums to be members of than neowin. tho the site speed has slowed down, it's just one facet of neowin's growing pains, but the continuing addition of rules keeps pace with the growth of the site.

grass is always greener on the other side, till you get there, then you want back.

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I voted yes, because of a few select members. See attachment for an example.

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Ironic that you asked this question ;)

Are you trying to say I am one of those select few members that are making Neowin go downhill? Look at why I got those warns, I think the first was for circumventing the swear filter, I know one of them was me acting like a young kid but I think I was only 13/14 at the time. Since then I think they have all been in retalliation from what someone else is saying.

If you think Im making Neowin go downhill then why not state it directly, or ban me instead of making jokes?

Oh, and I know Im going to get flamed/laughed at or whatever for this post because to be honest, alot of Neowin members idolize you.

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for sure. i remember when i first signed up in 2004 there was always cool tech stuff going on here. now when i come here people as asking who shaves in the shower or who has a hairy ass. its getting extremely embarrassing to call this a cool techie forum

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Wherever you go in the world your bound to run into an idiot. Neowin is not going downhill because of a select few as the insightful and informative largely outweigh them.

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Nope. Still going strong. Don't like a few of the Mods, but ya get used to them.

80% warn here for anyone Interested.

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Nope. Still going strong. Don't like a few of the Mods, but ya get used to them.

80% warn here for anyone Interested.

all of the mods know what they're doing and they'are nice guys, i was warned for something lame once (double posting on accident) but i forgot about it

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It's more of a people place now for some, I like it no mater what tho Its a cool fun place to be during my spare time.

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I have to agree with DirtyLarry on this one. I have been saying it for a while that it's the memberbase that continues to decline in maturity and thoughtfulness. When I first joined way back when, I was on the bottom of the totem pole in terms of understanding and knowledge of technology. Granted, I have taught myself a lot, I have moved way too far up the pole when compared to the rest of the community now. It seems people come here to act like morons and instigate useless arguments over nothing. While some people may not accept it, the root members, the first core group, made this place what it was based on their knowledge of technology and we stick around because we come here to discuss technology. It's a shame how some people act.

HeHe No Disrespect, u are a forum team member hence the reason u will go with another forum team member to retain friendship :)

Maybe some forums should only be for members how have proven themselves as a postive member. Just an idea.

Yer first they would prove themselves as soon as they got the trophy they would lean back... Thats what I think anyway.. This topic was almost a waste really, the site leaders will say its some idiots and they will try to make it look like the people who talk against the mods and team members are idiots and the normal people will say its the mods sometimes warning for nothing but at then of the day... Every1 is equal there can be silly mistakes from people as well as SILLY mistakes from Mods.. they are just people too.

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