• Sign in to Neowin Faster!

    Create an account on Neowin to contribute and support the site.

Sign in to follow this  

Year old Mac already useless?

Recommended Posts

rdf8585    0

I have a one year old Mini (1.33 g4, 1 gb) but it just seems like it can't keep up with basis tasks anymore. ESPN.com's flash videos are choppy; playback is not smooth. The heavier webpages seem to give it trouble too... it just doesn't seem like it's good for much these days. And that's not good, especially because iBooks sold up to spring 2006 have basically the same hardware inside them. I use Onyx etc frequently, so that's not an issue.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
yudi_lks    0

Do you have enough disk space in your mini?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Brian M.    778

I have one word for you:

PC :p

on a serious note, try upgrading the ram. That cpu isnt the greatest, so having more than a gb of ram will help alot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
rdf8585    0
Do you have enough disk space in your mini?

It is around 80-85% empty. I removed a lot of stuff like excess languages etc.

That hardware, though, just isnt enough anymore is it?

I have one word for you:

PC :p

on a serious note, try upgrading the ram. That cpu isnt the greatest, so having more than a gb of ram will help alot.

The max RAM in pre-Intel Mini's was 1 GB.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
John S.    359

I have an 18-month old rev.B iMac 2.0 ghz, 2gb of ram and haven't noticed anything of the sort. I ordered mine with 1 gb of ram but felt it was a bit sluggish loading some sites so I added another gb myself. I'd try Onyx to make sure everythings healthy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
giga    45

ESPN always gives Safari trouble from what I've tested. Have you tried Camino/Firefox, OmniWeb?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
//////////    0

One thing you must remember is that the Mini (no matter how good they are), especially the pre-Intel Mini's are low end machines. They are much better quality than low end PCs (but still low on options), but are still only intended for casual users. If you're a "power user", than that machine is not enough and is only going to slow you down. Go bigger....get an iMac or a MacPro and load it up with as much memory as you can afford. Try buying other than Apple memory. Apple memory is ungodly overpriced. However MacPro memory is also unfortunately quite expensive

Options...

Keep the Mini soley as a media machine in lieu of "iTV", or use it as a server/firewall. A friend of mine tore his mini apart and now uses it as a server.

Unfortunately the original Minis were way low on configuration options. It's one reason I sold mine and went bigger after previously having a PowerMac G4 with 2 GB ram.

And just as with PCs, the more memory the better. However, a faster processor wouldn't hurt!

You might want to clean it out of the crap you don't use, and stop unecessary processes from running. If all else fails, do a fresh install of OS X with the custom option.

Edited by sduba22

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TruckWEB    480

I feel the same with my Mini. I have enough HD space left, 1Gig of RAM and Tiger 10.4.8

But I see the darn beach ball just too many times during a day. Browsing e-mails in Mail, especialy if they have big attachement is a pain. It's slow.

The Mini can feel slow on many website with lots of Flash or video on both Safari or FireFox. Choppy video happens alot.

The new iTune takes forever to load now...

And I don't have anything "extra" on my Mini, the Control Panel is clean, no plug-in except for DivX and Flip4Mac. It's a clean machine.

Even if it's Apple "Low end machine" it became lower than expected alot sooner.

:no:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MonkeyClaw    9

My PowerBook is a year and a half old and it has no problems doing most things. Aperture is still slow but it has always been slow. For the most part though, it still performs like a champ!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LBraasch    0

there are a few things you can do to get a speed boost out of your mini.

Boot from an external hdd. I boot mine from a 300gb Maxtor drive which is 7200rpm 16mb cache. The internal drives in minis are pretty crappy, and most are 4200 rpm, although i believe yours is 5400. It'll give a noticeable speed boost, and you'll see a lot less of the "beach ball".

I have a 1.42ghz w/ a gig of ram, and although there are faster machines out there, I don't find that mine is slow at all for basic "home" type use.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
hotdog666al    31

I'm SO glad I didn't get a mini.

I was choosing between an X2 3800+ box and a Mac Mini.

Guess I chose the right thing!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
chimera963    0

know what you mean, i've had my g5 imac about a year and a half and it was like ZOMFG WOW!!!! at first, but now it's not as speedy and slick, just feels out of date. I suppose it's just something you have to deal with when buying apple gear, keeping up to date. Though I won't have the money for a new mac for aaaages, so if I upgrade, i'll be building a new pc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TruckWEB    480

there are a few things you can do to get a speed boost out of your mini.

Boot from an external hdd. I boot mine from a 300gb Maxtor drive which is 7200rpm 16mb cache. The internal drives in minis are pretty crappy, and most are 4200 rpm, although i believe yours is 5400. It'll give a noticeable speed boost, and you'll see a lot less of the "beach ball".

I have a 1.42ghz w/ a gig of ram, and although there are faster machines out there, I don't find that mine is slow at all for basic "home" type use.

I've tried that, it does boot and operate a little bit faster but not enough. And you can't stop that darn spinning beach ball. I wonder if it's OS related or hardware not able to follow....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LBraasch    0

I've tried that, it does boot and operate a little bit faster but not enough. And you can't stop that darn spinning beach ball. I wonder if it's OS related or hardware not able to follow....

Do you have xbench scores before and after? My score went up a good 10-15pts after the 'mod'. Although, mine was definately more noticable b/c it was a 4200rpm internal drive not the revised 5600.

also, you can always OC your g4 for more speed

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
maxsquared    0

know what you mean, i've had my g5 imac about a year and a half and it was like ZOMFG WOW!!!! at first, but now it's not as speedy and slick, just feels out of date. I suppose it's just something you have to deal with when buying apple gear, keeping up to date. Though I won't have the money for a new mac for aaaages, so if I upgrade, i'll be building a new pc.

That's exactly what I did, however, I am kinda regret didn't upgrade to a Mac. On the other hand, PC is not all that bad.

With Mac you have to press two keys to get to spotlight, on vista, you only need to press window key....

But I guess I will get a laptop soon anyway, and I probably get a macbook (when c2d version comes out)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
am_fek    0

Two keys needed for Spotlight? Really?

As for why the Mini is slow, it's running on a G4. The limitation is the CPU. It was okay four years ago, but now it's just out of date. You bought a low end machine and you got one, sucks but that's the way it is :(

Personally I didn't see the value of the Mini back then... now perhaps that you can get them with the Core CPUs, but even then, I'd just spring for a Macbook.

Edited by am_fek

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Spielo    0

If flash video is choppy, you could try updating flash; I don't think just running Software Update will give you the newest version, go to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/do...mp;promoid=BIOW

It might help, I was having trouble with flash video on my MacBook until I updated it! :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
John S.    359

Two keys needed for Spotlight? Really?

As for why the Mini is slow, it's running on a G4. The limitation is the CPU. It was okay four years ago, but now it's just out of date. You bought a low end machine and you got one, sucks but that's the way it is :(

Personally I didn't see the value of the Mini back then... now perhaps that you can get them with the Core CPUs, but even then, I'd just spring for a Macbook.

The mini just came out in January 2005...not quite 2 years old yet.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
am_fek    0

And the G4 processor came out a long time before that. What's your point? It was a low end machine two years ago and it came with a low end CPU.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
John S.    359
And the G4 processor came out a long time before that. What's your point? It was a low end machine two years ago and it came with a low end CPU.

Thought you meant the mini was 4 years old, not the processor...my bad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TheDreamX    0

Umm, has anyone suggested a fresh format? I still use my 867 MHz G4 and nothing has ever slowed down on the web. Maybe some HD video I have tried, but, other than that, it still runs relatively fast.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
am_fek    0

No problem, it wasn't written very clearly. And it's not as though it's not a bad thing that a machine that's only two years old already struggles with some flashy websites. I have a year 2003 PowerBook G4 which has the same problems, and that was actually supposed to be a 'power' machine so I feel that pain :)

The G4s were outdated long before they were withdrawn. Apple probably would have wanted to it sooner but they had to keep the PPC models on sale until the Mactels were in place. Now that Apple is using Intel CPUs, the problem of obsolescence should be less serious - hopefully.

(edit) TheDreamX: what will formatting achieve? OS X isn't like Windows, formatting isn't just some voodoo / miracle cure for any time the Mac slows down. When it comes to resource usage, OS X is either running a process or it's not, it's not encumbered with registry this, service that, etc. If the OP has checked things like Activity Monitor and his startup items, a format will not achieve anything more. And please don't suggest removing cache or preference files, like deleting text files ever sped up any computer, Mac or PC. The truth is that a) once you've checked running processes, formatting probably won't help to speed up OS X; and b) that although some people might not feel their machines are slow, low end G4s simply can't handle rich websites today at a speed most would consider acceptable.

Edited by am_fek

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
crazzyyfool    29

I have one word for you:

PC :p

Errrm. PC isn't a word. It's an abbreviation. :whistle:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Spielo    0

Errrm. PC isn't a word. It's an abbreviation. :whistle:

If we're going to be pedantic, it's an acronym.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PaulCabby    2

If we're going to be pedantic, it's an acronym.

Well.. Initialism

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.