morgs Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 The Facts...The GIF graphics file format was invented by CompuServe in 1987. In the years since, a debate has been raging as to the correct way to pronounce "GIF": like "jif", or with a hard 'g' as in "gift" as a majority of Mac users seem to prefer. With this page I intend to clear this up once and for all... It's pronounced like "jif". Period. The end. That's final. End of story. You disagree? Hey, I'm just quoting the inventors of the format. Here's the evidence: * CompuServe used to distribute a graphics display program called CompuShow. In the documentation for version 8.33 in the FAQ section, it states: The GIF (Graphics Interchange Format), pronounced "JIF", was designed by CompuServe and the official specification released in June of 1987. There, straight from the inventors of the format. Convinced yet? * The image below is an example GIF that came with CompuShow: It is a picture of CompuShow's author, Bob Berry. He used some of the then-new features of the GIF89 format to display text on top of graphics. One of the lines he entered in the text states: Oh, incidentally, it's pronounced "JIF" You can't see this text within a browser, but if you save this image and load it up in GIF Construction Set or another animated GIF89 editor, you can see the comment for yourself. Drag and View also displays this text, but kind of screwed up. For further proof from Bob Berry, check this out. Convinced yet? * The Graphics File Formats FAQ states the following: Choosy programmers choose "gif" or "jif"? The pronunciation of "GIF" is specified in the GIF specification to be "jif", as in "jiffy", rather then "gif", which most people seem to prefer. This does seem strange because the "G" is from the word "Graphics" and not "Jraphics". That last statement doesn't mean anything. It's an acronym. There's no defined way to pronounce acronyms--it's up to the creators. Convinced yet? * A new graphics format known as PNG is being pushed by its creators as the next big thing. Among its list of features is its "unambiguous pronunciation". Here's part of its documentation: Pronunciation No detail was too small for consideration in the authors' quest for a near-perfect image format; yea, verily, even the acronym and pronunciation were major topics of discussion. The reason, of course, is the GIF format; some pronounce it with a soft G like giraffe, some with a hard G like gift, and no one really knows what they're talking about. (For the record, the soft G is correct; it is how the author of the format pronounces it.) "PNG" is always spelled "PNG" (or "Portable Network Graphics") and always pronounced "ping," not "pinj" or "pee en gee" or any other multi-syllabic disaster. See the introduction to the PNG specification for the definitive statement on the matter. Convinced yet? * NetBITS, a weekly ePublication that provided practical Internet information, asked its readers in Issue 002 to supply information that could solve the GIF pronunciation debate. They followed up in Issue 003 with this: It's "Jiff" and I Don't Want to Hear Another Word -- Logic may dictate the "g" in GIF (Graphic Interchange Format) is pronounced hard, like gift or gefilte fish, but that didn't stop dozens and dozens of readers from offering opinions, many of them hilarious. However, several people wrote to say that they either worked with folks at CompuServe or read the original GIF specification, all of which specified a soft "g". None of us at NetBITS understand why we haven't seen the definitive word before, so here it is. Charlie Reading <charlier@kreber.com> writes: I worked with the creator of GIF (Steve Wilhite) when I was still employed by CompuServe. Steve always pronounced it "jiff" and would correct those who pronounced it with a hard G. "Choosy developers choose GIF" (spinning off of a historically popular peanut butter commercial). If you want to make a difference in this pronunciation conundrum, print this piece of NetBITS out and send it to the person who writes your local newspaper's technology or Internet column. We now have the specification's authoritative pronunciation. Let's stamp out the hard "g," however logical, once and for all. Convinced yet? http://www.olsenhome.com/gif/ Well I pronounce it Jiff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthy_Singh Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I've always pronounced it in the gif(t) manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levianthen Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 pronouce it like gif, how it sounds and how it looks like :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz99 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 It's beginning to look like "the egg or the hen"...LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmmay Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Gif as always..I've never heard anyone use the word like Jif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 It's beginning to look like "the egg or the hen"...LoL Don't want to say it, but some people are just dumb. It's written "gif" (Notice: with a "g", not "j"!), but should be pronounced "jif"? Why, ffs? Because American Football doesn't played with a ball and to hit the egg shaped object with foot, you need to call a special dude for the job? Gimme a break :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitebread Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 as in Gift, cant stand ppl who say jif as in jiffy lube +1 (Y) I hate hearing "jiff" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniX Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Don't want to say it, but some people are just dumb. It's written "gif" (Notice: with a "g", not "j"!), but should be pronounced "jif"? Why, ffs? Because American Football doesn't played with a ball and to hit the egg shaped object with foot, you need to call a special dude for the job? Gimme a break :rolleyes: Germ and giraffe are written with a g, do you pronounce them as gurm and ger-aff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djesteban Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 as in gif[t] here... never ever heard someone say jif... sound stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonhead Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 The jiffers must pronounce cab as sab then :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) Germ and giraffe are written with a g, do you pronounce them as gurm and ger-aff? Huh :rofl: ? Trying to feed me fish? It's pronounced "jiff" and not "giff"! Hearing n00bs and wanabe pros using the pronunciation "giff" as appose to the correct way of pronouncing it as "jiff" is akin to people pronouncing the word "ask" as "aks" or "axe"! “Can I axe you a question about them there giffs?” HOW DA HELL DID YOU CAME UP WITH THIS? Edited October 26, 2006 by Pupik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted October 26, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 26, 2006 Germ and giraffe are written with a g, do you pronounce them as gurm and ger-aff? QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshMan Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 It's pronounced "jiff" and not "giff"! Hearing n00bs and wanabe pros using the pronunciation "giff" as appose to the correct way of pronouncing it as "jiff" is akin to people pronouncing the word "ask" as "aks" or "axe"! ?Can I axe you a question about them there giffs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadean Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I've always pronounced it gif(t)-Spenser I pronounce it exactly the same way, as does everyone else I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User6060 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 so even Merriam-Webster is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafoman Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Okay, so I read the GIF Pronunciation Page... Regardless of what the inventors intended, most people say it with a hard G. At this point, popularity wins out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceCarpet Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 GIF No one says Jif around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 My teachers are always said Gift. (Nah some sometime did not pronounce the "t" but the rest is same) It's for purpose, there are .JIF files too. http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/jif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u_diddy Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 it's pronounced..... "gif" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wak1zashi Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 jee aye eff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 "According to the creator of the "GIF" format, Steve Wilhite, the pronunciation is with a soft "g" and the acronym is pronounced like the peanut butter brand, Jif." Never heard it pronounced differently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bant Veteran Posted October 26, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 26, 2006 Did some googling and found out that "Jiff" is actually the correct way to pronounce it. But it seems that pronouncing it as "gif(t)" is more common. So...just out of curiosity, for those that pronounce it as "jiff", would you ever consider pronouncing it as "gif(t)" in a business setting (i don't know when you would talk about file formats oh well lol) just to avoid people being confused or think that you are actually in the wrong despite knowing "jiff" is the correct pronunciation? Edit: here's the link http://www.olsenhome.com/gif/ jif was the original pronunciation but smart people say it gif(t) (just teasing..) because it is ridiculous and silly not to :p it is an acronym and it defeats the purpose of an acronym if you can't spell it by the pronunciation :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 GEE-EYE-EFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted October 26, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) Gif(t) because it makes more sense :p Edited October 26, 2006 by Colin-uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniX Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 it defeats the purpose of an acronym if you can't spell it by the pronunciation :p hmm... i wonder if there is another acronym that is not pronounced as it is spelled? anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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