Casino Royale

[ThaCrip]

i aint seen this movie yet, but im a bond fan and i got fairly good expectations for this film since i like pierce brosnan as bond and after i got word he left a while back i was wondering who they where going to get.... once i heard daniel craig got the role i was not sure how he would turn out playing bond... but from what i can tell from seeing the ads on tv for it... i think he will pull off the role of being bond.... but one thing i can say for sure... im definately glad they choose a good solid actor and not one of the "super popular" mainstream actors to play bond ;) ... im guessing they made a good choice.

on imdb.com it's got a rating of 8.1 out of 10 (2,434 votes) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381061/ .... so i got good expectations for it... after reading everyones comments on here though it looks like it's gonna be a good bond film from what i can tell from the ads and peoples general comments for it in this thread... so it looks like the people who dont like it generally say that "it dont feel like a bond film" or the fact that they cant get over pierce brosnan not playing bond seems to be main reason the people who dont like it, dont like it.... but for everyone else that does like it... the film seems to have a different feel to it and that craig pulled off the bond roll pretty well etc etc etc.

but out of the more recent bond films (the pierce brosnan era) i think "goldeneye" and "die another day" where the best ones of the 4. (i know people above mentioned they did not like die another day)

as for my favorite bond ever out of the 5 bonds (connery,lazenby,moore,dalton,brosnan) (i cant comment about daniel craig yet since like i said above i aint seen this film yet) ... i would say i liked pierce brosnan the best... he just plays that smooth roll to perfection.... as for second best or so i would probably go with connery then probably moore or dalton then lazenby... the 1969 bond film which lazenby was in called, "on her majesty's secret service" was not bad but it just felt different from all the other bonds of the old days.

as for listing which bonds i like from best to worst that would be to hard to do , so i wont even try.

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p.s. about El Bourricot comments above.... living daylights was timothy dalton so it definately aint that one.... off the top of my head though i cant remember which exact name of the one ur referring to but i do remember the sking scene ;)

Edited November 19, 2006 by ThaCrip

[Cyplex]

At the end, what did Bond see in the seashell that made him check her phone. And how did he know who Mr. White was & where he lived.

SPOILER:

@Lqv2015,

1st he traced the cellphone call, 2nd he went to the location, called the phone number and Mr White answered so he knew he was Mr.White. If you recall the name Mr.White was on her cellphone.

:rofl:

[dh5]

Such a good film :yes:

4/5

i didnt like the parts where it tried to be romantic though

[ecotrojan]

Surpass my expectations & more. It made me forget the last 4 Bond movies. Although Goldeneye was the best of the four.

To those who said Daniel Craig doesn't fit the Bond criteria, they've made the wrong assumption before seeing this. He might not have the looks or charm as Brosnan, but he's the perfect Bond IMO. Gritty & tough. Connery was great but it's been awhile since I've seen his Bond movies.

And lets hope they keep the same director for the next movie. Unlike the previous four.

Like someone mention above, it's going to be a long wait for the next movie.

Easily my pick for best movie of the year.

9.5/10

I Agree... This was one of the best bond films IMO and Daniel Craig was absoloutly awsome, the only thing I didn't like about the film was the amount of product placement.

Other than that great fim 9/10

agreed

[oldaccount1]

Craig is such a badass bond. Loving it. I was kind of upset when they didn't play the Bond theme at the beginning--or throughout the movie...I was thinking they replaced it--then at the end when he did his Bond, James Bond and it played, it was awesome.

[Scirwode]

This film was a bad bond film, but a decent action movie. Bond shold have outlandish villians, as well as humor and style. This had really none of that. And what was with the plot? There were like 3 different bad guys, which was semi-confusing. And the violence was too gritty for bond.

Also what was with some of that dialogue? "If the only thing that was left of you was your mouth and finger..." What?

It wasnt all that bad. I liked the general idea behind showing how he got his start, and kind of seeing who he was. The fact that you dont really hear the theme until the end, but it is hinted at is really cool. And Craig was a better Bond type character then I was expecting. The problem was with the director/film.

Obviously, you have never read the books. Ian Fleming's potrayal of James Bond is very different than what you see on the silver screen. It was not always about man against world. Sure, he did include an organisation that was evil in nature, SMERSH (SPECTRE in the movies) and he did create one very evil person, Ernst Stavro Blofeld, but it has never always been about cars, gadgets and girls.

You would be suprised by the number of violence stated in the book if you actually get to read it ;) . And the plot for me was easy to understand, but maybe because I already read the book.

I shouldn't post here, haven't seen CR yet but...

Moore was amusing. In Living Daylights (I think? or possibly You Only Live Twice) the opening scene was as far as I'm concerned the best ever. It's also the only time I can remember seeing proper skiing in a Bond film. The World Is Not Enough's skiing was very amateurish (tourist? :p) most of the time except twice when the "skier" takes super-G turns on the piste which is awesome but lasts maybe a couple of seconds before he gets closer, camera changes plan and it's Brosnan disappointing crouching forward again.

At least in the Moore era they had stunt doubles...

Mmmm details :p

Living Daylights was Timothy Dalton while You Only Live Twice was Sean Connery, which was notable as the screenplay was written by Roald Dahl and loosely base on the book, which was a mistake in my opinion (I did like the title song by Nancy Sinatra :p !). I think you are refering to either The Spy Who Loved Me which had skiing in Austria or For Your Eyes Only which he had to go to the Swiss Alps and was being chase by gunmen. Both were Moore films by the way.

i can't believe people are ranking moore as i their top 3 bonds, he was awful... and he couldnt act... it surprises me a lot...

in my eyes he was the sole reason behind bond vearing from a good action movie to farcical comedy....

Roger Moore is a good actor, you only had to watch The Saint to see how well he played that role, and the role he played in that series is similar to James Bond. He may have just overdid it on the whole humor and suave act. Not helping was the studios squabling over who has the rights to create what movie and so on. It all comes down to bad management which thankfully, stopped when GoldenEye was released.

I would still rate Sean Connery at the very top as he set a presedent for all the James Bond movies afterwards. Daniel Craig, after seeing him play James Bond, is second for becoming as close as possible to how he is potrayed in the novel. A close third would be Timothy Dalton, because even though his two movies wasn't successful on the box office, his potrayal was almost as good as Daniel Craig. George Lazenby is fourth for being good as James Bond but he could have done better.

Roger Moore is fifth or second from bottom. Even though I enjoy quite a lot of his movies, most if not all of them have the same plotlines - government is under threat, he is dispatched to solve it, finds beautiful girl along the way, bad guy sends evil henchman to dispose him, hencman fails, he finds hideout, they have a little chit chat where bad guy reveals super secret master plan, he kicks bad guys butt, he comes out smelling like roses and gets to bed the girl while waiting for MI6 to contact him and pick him up (Moonraker) :rofl: .

Pierce Brosnan is last of that group. I'm sure you all be hating me by saying this but honestly speaking, his Bond was a bit soft and too sophisticated in my opinion. He helped relaunched the series and I will always enjoy GoldenEye but I just don't feel as comfortable watching him play James Bond (He was good in The Thomas Crown Affair, I give you that).

My favourite James Bond movie of all time is still From Russia With Love, although Casino Royale has made it a bit harder for me decide :) . I think Daniel Craig has gone beyond all my expectations as being James Bond. Definitely a 5 ***** for me.

Scirwode

[Lqv2015]

Can someone list the actors that have played Bond over the years. From first to Daniel Craig. I thought there was 5. Guess I'm wrong.

Another thing that I love bout this movie was how it just felt like a Bond movie. The directing, picture & score made it real easy to picture what a Bond movie is like.

SPOILER:

@Lqv2015,

1st he traced the cellphone call, 2nd he went to the location, called the phone number and Mr White answered so he knew he was Mr.White. If you recall the name Mr.White was on her cellphone.

:rofl:

I kind of figure that. But wasn't sure it they were able to track a phone call to the exact position.

[addc182]

yeh just got back from seeing it

4/5

like the new bond

its much more... brutal than the older bonds

yeh i noticed the sony plugs as well

thought the ending dragged on a bit though

[El Bourricot]

Living Daylights was Timothy Dalton while You Only Live Twice was Sean Connery, which was notable as the screenplay was written by Roald Dahl and loosely base on the book, which was a mistake in my opinion (I did like the title song by Nancy Sinatra :p !). I think you are refering to either The Spy Who Loved Me which had skiing in Austria or For Your Eyes Only which he had to go to the Swiss Alps and was being chase by gunmen. Both were Moore films by the way.

I would still rate Sean Connery at the very top as he set a presedent for all the James Bond movies afterwards. Daniel Craig, after seeing him play James Bond, is second for becoming as close as possible to how he is potrayed in the novel. A close third would be Timothy Dalton, because even though his two movies wasn't successful on the box office, his potrayal was almost as good as Daniel Craig. George Lazenby is fourth for being good as James Bond but he could have done better.

It's whichever one starts in Siberia by Bond being chased by Red Army staff and a helicopter, skiing off glaciers and then jumping into a fake iceberg which is in fact a boat with a hot blonde in it. The skiing was a great example of parallel skiing in difficult places, they must have hired some bloody good skiers! I just loved it cos it's not something you see that often (nowadays anybody can pick up a pair of carves and be tracing within a week or two...)

Agree with Tim Dalton, I thought License to Kill was actually better than most Connery films! At least in terms of plot. And it's nice to see an actual James Bond, mean and willing to get his hands dirty, rather than the sophisticated armchair ponce that Moore was.

My ranking's thus 1. Connery - Dalton 3. Brosnan (cos at least he looked the part) 4. Moore

I have not seen either Craig or Lazenby yet but I'm sure they'll push themselves up in third and possibly first place!

[starmatrix]

best bond yet :D 10/10

i think i have a new favourite bond film. the very end scene when the music finally comes on is pretty awesome too

[Scorbing]

I didn't like the movie, it did not have the feel of previous bond movies, he is a good actor but to me he doesnt have the feel of James Bond.

I agree. Since when is James Bond blonde? Ian Fleming's James Bond has black hair not blonde.

To me, no one has portrayed James Bond like Brosnan has. Brosnan is Sean Connery's favorite Bond as he once stated on an interview. He was - and still is - awesome. The excuse that he was getting too old to play the role is bull. Roger Moore was almost 70 when he played Bond the last time and with all the CGI technologu these days, it would have never been a problem for Brosnan. I think the studio simply didn't want to pay him what he deserved and fired him.

Best Bonds:

1. Connery

2. Brosnan

Period.

[MGS4-SS]

Can someone list the actors that have played Bond over the years. From first to Daniel Craig. I thought there was 5. Guess I'm wrong.

- Sean Connery (6 moives, Dr.No, Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, Thunderball, Diamonds Are Forever, Never Say Never Again)

- Roger Moore (7 movies, Live and Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to a Kill)

- George Lazenby (1 movie, On Her Majesty's Secret Service)

- Timoty Dalton (2 movies, The Living Daylights, License to Kill)

- Pierce Brosnan (4 movies, Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is not Enough, Die Another Day)

- Daniel Craig (1 movie, Casino Royale)

The was one who made the 1960's version of Casino Royale, but I forgot his name.

I don't know why, but I really liked On Her Majesty's Secret Service (George Lazenby's movie). Maybe because of the music.

[macmax]

Next stop BOND 22 continues from where casino royal left

[Novaoblivion]

I saw it yesterday and liked it a lot, I was kind of sad to see the last bond go but the new bond was awesome! :) This movie seemed more realistic to me, the fights were more brutal and some times it was like "wow bond might lose". I cant wait for the next one.

[Napalm Frog]

I find it odd how some people are saying it lacek humour. Imho, it had the right amount, any more would have made it really cheesy. I think some people have watched too much dirty humour in the past few years...

[MonkeyClaw Veteran]

I agree. Since when is James Bond blonde? Ian Fleming's James Bond has black hair not blonde.

To me, no one has portrayed James Bond like Brosnan has. Brosnan is Sean Connery's favorite Bond as he once stated on an interview. He was - and still is - awesome. The excuse that he was getting too old to play the role is bull. Roger Moore was almost 70 when he played Bond the last time and with all the CGI technologu these days, it would have never been a problem for Brosnan. I think the studio simply didn't want to pay him what he deserved and fired him.

Best Bonds:

1. Connery

2. Brosnan

Period.

Actually in the books, he has Blond hair and blue eyes. It is stated in Casino Royale and in Dr. No (the only 2 I've read so far). This was the most accurate bond yet, but in terms of actor, I give him second or tied to Connery. Serious but with a sense of charm. The movie was amazing, they could have shortened by eh 10 or 15 min but it still didn't detract from my enjoyment. Everyone should go see this, it is awesome!!!

[Scirwode]

- Sean Connery (6 moives, Dr.No, Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, Thunderball, Diamonds Are Forever, Never Say Never Again)

- Roger Moore (7 movies, Live and Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to a Kill)

- George Lazenby (1 movie, On Her Majesty's Secret Service)

- Timoty Dalton (2 movies, The Living Daylights, License to Kill)

- Pierce Brosnan (4 movies, Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is not Enough, Die Another Day)

- Daniel Craig (1 movie, Casino Royale)

The was one who made the 1960's version of Casino Royale, but I forgot his name.

I don't know why, but I really liked On Her Majesty's Secret Service (George Lazenby's movie). Maybe because of the music.

You forgot "From Russia With Love" for Sean Connery :laugh: . For the 1960 spoof version of Casino Royale, the actor was David Niven and Peter Sellers. I also quite like On Her Majesty's Secret Service, especially the sad ending :cry: .

Actually in the books, he has Blond hair and blue eyes. It is stated in Casino Royale and in Dr. No (the only 2 I've read so far). This was the most accurate bond yet, but in terms of actor, I give him second or tied to Connery. Serious but with a sense of charm. The movie was amazing, they could have shortened by eh 10 or 15 min but it still didn't detract from my enjoyment. Everyone should go see this, it is awesome!!!

No one reads books these days, except Harry Potter... and The Da Vinci Code.

Scirwode

[C++]

I think I'm gonna have to watch this one, certainly sounds appealing. I didn't like the last few Bonds because they were purely about visual effects, and I didn't like the old Bonds because just plain I don't like old movies. Maybe this will be the one to turn me pro-Bond!

[MonkeyClaw Veteran]

No one reads books these days, except Harry Potter... and The Da Vinci Code.

Scirwode

They should considering this is what the movie is loosely based off of :rolleyes:

[FlibbyFlobby]

I have to admit I was thoroughly impressed by this movie. There was a lot less focus on silly catchphrases, unrealistic plots, special effects and gadgets, and more emphasis on Bond as a character and how he became who he is. Hopefully they will continue the series like this with Daniel Craig, he seems to suit the role well. The plot was also a lot more interesting than previous Bonds, a bad guy doesn't need to threating to blow up the world with a frickin' laser beam to make a good movie. :D The minimal usage of the Bond film is a stoke of genius as well, that tune is always associated with walking out unscathed, which as this movie shows far from the truth.

5/5

[BigGiantHead]

Royale is right up there with On Her Majesty's Secret Service, From Russia With Love, and License to Kill as my favourite Bond movies. Depends on rewatch value though.

Those who say that Bond movies need to have outlandish villains, ludicrous plots and over the top humour a la Moore, need to sit down woth alteast one of Fleming's books and get acquainted with Bond. And what better place to start than at the beginning.

One downside that I didn't mention in the other thread was the replacing of Baccarat with poker.

[Scirwode]

They should considering this is what the movie is loosely based off of :rolleyes:

They're all Bond experts after watching the previous movies :laugh: .

I have to admit I was thoroughly impressed by this movie. There was a lot less focus on silly catchphrases, unrealistic plots, special effects and gadgets, and more emphasis on Bond as a character and how he became who he is. Hopefully they will continue the series like this with Daniel Craig, he seems to suit the role well. The plot was also a lot more interesting than previous Bonds, a bad guy doesn't need to threating to blow up the world with a frickin' laser beam to make a good movie. :D The minimal usage of the Bond film is a stoke of genius as well, that tune is always associated with walking out unscathed, which as this movie shows far from the truth.

5/5

That made me laugh :rofl: .

Scirwode

[Xero]

Craig was a good bond I liked a lot, blonde hair and all. It was a refreshing break from the uhh ###### they got themselves into, no doubt Bronsman was good, but he was like the classic bond's the "smooth killer" I like craigs, just **** it all attitude, its a nice change, kinda like the new batman, more evil. Looking forward to the next one.

This guy was funny too, that scene at the end, I was laughin so hard, as was the rest of the theatre, great scene.

[Lqv2015]

Those who say that Bond movies need to have outlandish villains

You know I think it'll be a better movie in the next one if there was a real badass villain. This one was great but that's what I think was lacking.

[Liandros]

It was a great movie. Craig will be a great Bond. And, ugh, that torture scene was painful to watch.

Cant wait till the next movie.