fingers.t.beaver Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 All in all a very good film, got a little scared that the poker game would dominate the film and make it a little tiresome but they pulled it off. Have to agree with the product placement thought I was watching a ford advert in the first part of the film. A good start and a and breath of fresh air for a tiring series well done to em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Best bond film ever...best bit?"HOW WOULD U LIKE UR MARTINI SIR?" BOND - DO I LOOK LIKE I GIVE A DAMM!! :laugh: I loved that. I didn't see that coming either. I was expecting him to say shaken, but instead we got that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk-F117 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 (edited) I am a self confessed Bond geek. I know a lot about Bond, got the films collect memorabilia etc... IMO this was a good film, but not as good as it's been made out to be, for one reason: Bond is Cheese, without this Cheese it's just an action film. Casino Royale was too long, and the ending while intriguing; was just plain boring. People dislike 007 films like Moonraker, but that is a prime example of Bond. Extravagant plans, strange lairs and general stupidity. Without these things what separates it from any other film? And to the people that say this film is close to the book, have you even read it? In the book Bond has a scar down one side of his face. There are no gadgets, the woman aren't there in the same respect and he smokes so much he probably should've died at 25. The films are much more interesting, the books were a terrific base, but the films are so much more. Die Another Day was one of the worst Bond films; it was just a re-make of Diamonds are Forever and used the worse CGI I've ever seen. I purchased Goldeneye on DVD the other day and was watching the behind the scenes bit, some guy (could've been Martin Campbell) talking about why Bond films should always strive to use real sets, real action and do everything in person as opposed to the horrific GCI in DAD. You also cannot really compare ANY Bond actor, they all bring completely different aspects to the character of Bond. They are different, while I like Daniel Craig, he just seemed like an amalgamation of all previous Bonds. Edited November 24, 2006 by Nighthawk-F117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen. Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Anyone seen it? I thought it was really good, Daniel Craig play's the part amazingly. Martini - Shaken or stired - Do I look like I give a dam :lol: ... I did not get how it peaced togeather tho, could somone who has seen the film please in hidden tags peace the plot togeather for me in stage's to make it easier for me to understand? You may use this topic to discuss the film also. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I did not get how it peaced togeather tho, could somone who has seen the film please in hidden tags peace the plot togeather for me in stage's to make it easier for me to understand?Check out Wikipedia's plot information, very easy to understand :yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale...06_film%29#Plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
»X« Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Well I finally saw it. Good film. Very different from what we all know. My only criticism (which also made me laugh out loud) was the product placement. bond may as well have gazed at the screen with the SONY ERICSSON phone and wink. Now if you will excuse me I'm going to play Counter Strike Source, by VALVE, using my LOGITECH mouse. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen. Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 That's very hard to understand, I read it and don't get it at all. :( Can you explain the plot easier to me in PM or somthing, what happened throught the film after he shot the guy to become bond, please :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerino Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Everyone seems to be leaving out the fact that Pierce Brosnan is a poor actor.... Because Pierce Brosnan was a good Bond, my list of good Bonds goes like this 1. Sean Connery (no one will beat him) 2. Pierce Brosnan (Ill wait to see the next installment before Craig gets the #2 spot) 3. Daniel Craig 4. Roger Moore 5. Timothy Dalton (Come on what where they thinking) 6. George Lazenby (May we never speak of him again, worst Bond ever) I look forward to see what the next Bond movie will do for Daniel Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecotrojan Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 A fairly decent effort, provided you're prepared to suspend rational thinking. Too many cartoonish and improbable scenes spoiled it for me. Too many points where I half expected Bugs Bunny to appear! A good revival of the franchise though and hopefully we'll see a more polished and logical product next time around. 6/10 I must have been watching a different movie to you :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I must have been watching a different movie to you :blink: My thinking too. The only thing in my mind that was a little off was the car crash. I can't imagine that a car can flipping that much and all you walk away with is a couple of scratches and bruises. I personally think there would be more damage than that to the body. But I'm not doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthy_Singh Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I watched ti a few days ago and I though it was really good. It's a move away from the CGI driven action. There actualy is some plot and the Bond charecter is beginning to develop from a rookie. It seems like they've learned some lessons from the Jason Bourne movies. I liked the action in that it was less stylized and more in your face and gritty. All in all I think Daniel Craig has the makings of an excellent Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 That's very hard to understand, I read it and don't get it at all. :( Can you explain the plot easier to me in PM or somthing, what happened throught the film after he shot the guy to become bond, please :( SPOILERS AHEAD!!! OK so right after the cool opening credits, you see this Black dude terrorist, leader of The Lord's Resistance Army, negotiating with Le Chiffe (the guy who weeps blood and is asthmatic). Le Chiffe provides banking services for terrorists. After Bond gets his 007 status, he's assigned to track down a group who's supposedly funding international terrorists. He finds a bomb-maker (the one you see in the snake-mongoose fight), chases him and kills him. From the bomb-maker's cellphone he's able to track down a guy named Dimitrios. Dimitrios is a middle-man (or something like that) and a client for Le Chiffe. Le Chiffe knows that terrorists are going to blow up some airline's soon-to-be-unveiled airplane, so he uses the US$100 million he got from the earlier Black terrorist dude as a bet that the airline's stock would fall the next day (as a result of the plane bombing). But Bond intervenes and stops the prototype plane from being blown up, so the airline's stock does NOT fall and Le Chiffe loses US$100 million just like that. As the money belongs to the black terrorist dude, he has to find a way to recover the money or be killed. He then sets up a poker tournament in order to recover the money. Bond is chosen by British Intelligence to partake in this poker game to deny Le Chiffe the chance to recover the money. If Le Chiffe fails to recover the money, his clients would come looking for him and kill him, so to flee his clients, he will then have no option but to seek asylum from British Intelligence, and in turn he will have to divulge all the secrets/terrorists organizations to the British Intelligence. Bond wins the poker game and Le Chiffe decides to kidnap him and torture him for the password to his bank account where the US$115 million is. Now at this point Vesper Lynd is actually working AGAINST Bond. This is because her real lover, an Algerian, was abducted by Le Chiffe's men. They threatened to kill her lover if she allowed Bond to win. When Bond would not bulge and Le Chiffe was about to cut Bond's balls off, Mr White (the guy you see talking with the black dude in the beginning; a mysterious person who recommended Le Chiffe as the black dude's banker) walks in and shoots Le Chiffe. He shoots him because Le Chiffe lost his client's money and couldn't be trusted anymore. Le Chiffe destroyed Mr White's reputation. Later, when the Swiss banker comes to ask Bond to transfer the money, Vesper, unbeknownst to Bond, actually enters a different account number for the money to be transfered into, and then Bond enters his password. Mr White didn't kill Bond on that torture night exactly because of this -- he wanted Bond's password. Mr White and Vesper were all a part in a ploy to get the password. However, Vesper feels guilty and leaves subtle evidence for Bond to find out about the money, so Bond being Bond, he figures things out and voila we have a showdown in a sinking Venice building. It must be noted here that the Le Chiffe lookalike here is NOT Le Chiffe, he is Gettler, another contact for Mr White I assume. Le Chiffe was indeed shot dead by Mr White on the torture night. Bond kills all the bad guys and when he tries to save Vesper, she won't allow him and decides to commit suicide. Bond learns never to trust anyone again (ad never to trust women again). Later he checks Vesper's cellphone and finds that she actually left him Mr White's number. Bond tracks down Mr White, shoots him in the leg, and stands over him saying, "The name's Bond... James Bond". Classic bond tune starts. The end. I suck in explaining things. Correct me if anything I said was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
»X« Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 When Bond would not bulge :rofl: Theres a first time for everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kravex Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Saw it last night really enjoyed it, was I right in thinking even the security recorders were Sony Blue-Ray recorders? I saw the media was Sony and the thin blue light on the front made me guess it was Blue-Ray. Even the bad guys had Sony phones but best of all when he looked at the photo of him at the embassy on the web, the sidebar advert was for Sony TV's LOL. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollaxe Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I've always felt Sean Connery couldn't act his way out of a paper bag! Yes, lots of Sony product placements throughout but I enjoyed the film very much. When Migs Mikkelson makes his first appearance it was spoiled somewhat for me by deciding he looked a lot like the lead singer of The Feeling (a fact of which I made my fellow viewers aware!) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lqv2015 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 A fairly decent effort, provided you're prepared to suspend rational thinking. Too many cartoonish and improbable scenes spoiled it for me. Too many points where I half expected Bugs Bunny to appear! A good revival of the franchise though and hopefully we'll see a more polished and logical product next time around. 6/10 The only thing that was improbably was the poker hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivenDaily Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I personally thought the movie was great. I liked the various pokes at traditional bond flicks too (ie when he orders the martini (shaken/stirred) and the Ford POS he drives at the beginning). Craig was a solid actor and the stunts were sweet. I like the new take on the old films. Some of the later movies (Die Another Day and World is not Enough) we're just too far fetched. I just felt this was a classy film. And to be honest I don't really like Sony overall, but the various products that they advertise didn't take away from the film at all. And hey, someone has to advertise... 9/10 (I'm a Bond fan all around tho, slightly biased lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samg Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I liked this film alot, i havnt enjoyed the most recent bond films, maybe because i dont like Pierce Broslelelen. But this was great. I really want to watch it again, maybe as close to the screen as i did last time, and second time around you always take more in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeza Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I hated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billthy Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I hated it. haha, please explain yourself a LITTLE more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illicit Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I just recently watched this film last night and I must say that I really enjoyed the movie. Overall, I give it a 8/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I hated it. Why? What was wrong with it? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen. Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 SPOILERS AHEAD!!! OK so right after the cool opening credits, you see this Black dude terrorist, leader of The Lord's Resistance Army, negotiating with Le Chiffe (the guy who weeps blood and is asthmatic). Le Chiffe provides banking services for terrorists. After Bond gets his 007 status, he's assigned to track down a group who's supposedly funding international terrorists. He finds a bomb-maker (the one you see in the snake-mongoose fight), chases him and kills him. From the bomb-maker's cellphone he's able to track down a guy named Dimitrios. Dimitrios is a middle-man (or something like that) and a client for Le Chiffe. Le Chiffe knows that terrorists are going to blow up some airline's soon-to-be-unveiled airplane, so he uses the US$100 million he got from the earlier Black terrorist dude as a bet that the airline's stock would fall the next day (as a result of the plane bombing). But Bond intervenes and stops the prototype plane from being blown up, so the airline's stock does NOT fall and Le Chiffe loses US$100 million just like that. As the money belongs to the black terrorist dude, he has to find a way to recover the money or be killed. He then sets up a poker tournament in order to recover the money. Bond is chosen by British Intelligence to partake in this poker game to deny Le Chiffe the chance to recover the money. If Le Chiffe fails to recover the money, his clients would come looking for him and kill him, so to flee his clients, he will then have no option but to seek asylum from British Intelligence, and in turn he will have to divulge all the secrets/terrorists organizations to the British Intelligence. Bond wins the poker game and Le Chiffe decides to kidnap him and torture him for the password to his bank account where the US$115 million is. Now at this point Vesper Lynd is actually working AGAINST Bond. This is because her real lover, an Algerian, was abducted by Le Chiffe's men. They threatened to kill her lover if she allowed Bond to win. When Bond would not bulge and Le Chiffe was about to cut Bond's balls off, Mr White (the guy you see talking with the black dude in the beginning; a mysterious person who recommended Le Chiffe as the black dude's banker) walks in and shoots Le Chiffe. He shoots him because Le Chiffe lost his client's money and couldn't be trusted anymore. Le Chiffe destroyed Mr White's reputation. Later, when the Swiss banker comes to ask Bond to transfer the money, Vesper, unbeknownst to Bond, actually enters a different account number for the money to be transfered into, and then Bond enters his password. Mr White didn't kill Bond on that torture night exactly because of this -- he wanted Bond's password. Mr White and Vesper were all a part in a ploy to get the password. However, Vesper feels guilty and leaves subtle evidence for Bond to find out about the money, so Bond being Bond, he figures things out and voila we have a showdown in a sinking Venice building. It must be noted here that the Le Chiffe lookalike here is NOT Le Chiffe, he is Gettler, another contact for Mr White I assume. Le Chiffe was indeed shot dead by Mr White on the torture night. Bond kills all the bad guys and when he tries to save Vesper, she won't allow him and decides to commit suicide. Bond learns never to trust anyone again (ad never to trust women again). Later he checks Vesper's cellphone and finds that she actually left him Mr White's number. Bond tracks down Mr White, shoots him in the leg, and stands over him saying, "The name's Bond... James Bond". Classic bond tune starts. The end. I suck in explaining things. Correct me if anything I said was wrong. What is a terrest backer, I dont get what one is, how can there be such thing? How did Le Chiffe give his money or bet it with a air company, how would a air company allow this :unsure: Why was Bond chasing the guy for the phone, why exactly what did he need, what did the phone have? Why did Bonds girl go to the bad guys with money and not to the bank - if she she to go to the back, what would she of had to do there? What numer was entered? The bad ass guys number and Bonds password - did the girl put in the bad guys number to they would get the money and pay back the terrorists because they lost the money cause the airoplane never blow up? Who was the pretend "Le Chiffe" then :unsure: and why was there a fate version of "Le Chiffe" ? Who exactly is Mr White and what does he do ? Why was Vesper playing him along and why did she leave Mr Whites Number sorry about this, if you or somone else answers this Ill unserstand it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I thought it was good :D hehe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 What is a terrest backer, I dont get what one is, how can there be such thing? How did Le Chiffe give his money or bet it with a air company, how would a air company allow this :unsure: Why was Bond chasing the guy for the phone, why exactly what did he need, what did the phone have? Why did Bonds girl go to the bad guys with money and not to the bank - if she she to go to the back, what would she of had to do there? What numer was entered? The bad ass guys number and Bonds password - did the girl put in the bad guys number to they would get the money and pay back the terrorists because they lost the money cause the airoplane never blow up? Who was the pretend "Le Chiffe" then :unsure: and why was there a fate version of "Le Chiffe" ? Who exactly is Mr White and what does he do ? Why was Vesper playing him along and why did she leave Mr Whites Number sorry about this, if you or somone else answers this Ill unserstand it :D My god did you actually watch the movie? :wacko: :o :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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