sharpy2k4 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I have a premium 360 connected via the high def cables to my Samsung Le26r74. Ive decided i want to buy the VGA cable and want to know if it would be better picture quality over my standard high def cables. this is the one i want anyway http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/GENBRW/3...le/Product.html cheers guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+StevoFC MVC Posted December 6, 2006 MVC Share Posted December 6, 2006 i personally don't like the color saturation at all when using vga cables with my 360. component just looks so much brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Brightness setting is a matter of the game and your television? :s I currently hooked up with component on my Samsung LE-32M61 Im lending VGA cables from a friend soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+StevoFC MVC Posted December 6, 2006 MVC Share Posted December 6, 2006 Brightness setting is a matter of the game and your television? :s I currently hooked up with component on my Samsung LE-32M61 Im lending VGA cables from a friend soon.. yeah on most samsung televisions with vga you can't control any of that when in pc mode. so it's impossible to not make it look so washed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 yeah on most samsung televisions with vga you can't control any of that when in pc mode. so it's impossible to not make it look so washed out. :o I thought Samsung TVs were good and 'configurable' ? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonBlur Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 :o I thought Samsung TVs were good and 'configurable' ? :( They are. It's just that for some reason manufacturers do not supply you with very many adjustment options when using a VGA connector, which is often called PC Mode. To tell you the truth I have no clue why this is, I have a new JVC and it's the same thing, although I have not noticed that the color is washed out on my TV, just that some of the display options are not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted December 6, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2006 It looks fantastic on my Samsung 720p DLP with the VGA connector. The DVD upscaling is really impressive too (Although it made the HD-DVD player a bit less impressive since the DVDs already looked so damn good). With component you're losing color information because of RGB -> YPbPr conversion. With a VGA cable you won't have that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Brandon Is DLP better than Plasma and LCDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGashX Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Again, I would like to point out if your in a PAL country (guessing you are, like myself) 50Hz games like Halo will not work on a 360 via VGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted December 6, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2006 BrandonIs DLP better than Plasma and LCDs? Depends on what you mean by "better" - I chose it as it was by far the best value at the time. Plasma = best contrast. can get burn-in easily. expensive DLP = good contrast. can't burn-in. cheaper, but physically larger than the other two. LCD = terrible contrast. can get burn-in but not easily. expensive There are more factors but those are some of the common ones. For just watching videos, plasma may be the best solution if you can afford it. But if you use the display for a PC, gaming, or anything where burn-in could be a problem - DLP is often the best. I think it has the best viewing angle as well but I'm not 100% sure of that. Value is the biggest reason to go DLP, if you don't mind giving up the "coolness" factor of a completely flat display. If you're looking to buy a new display try the home theater forum here or AVSforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Depends on what you mean by "better" - I chose it as it was by far the best value at the time. Plasma = best contrast. can get burn-in easily. expensive DLP = good contrast. can't burn-in. cheaper, but physically larger than the other two. LCD = terrible contrast. can get burn-in but not easily. expensive There are more factors but those are some of the common ones. For just watching videos, plasma may be the best solution if you can afford it. But if you use the display for a PC, gaming, or anything where burn-in could be a problem - DLP is often the best. I think it has the best viewing angle as well but I'm not 100% sure of that. Value is the biggest reason to go DLP, if you don't mind giving up the "coolness" factor of a completely flat display. If you're looking to buy a new display try the home theater forum here or AVSforum. Thanks Do DLPs have another name? Cause I cant seem to find any :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted December 6, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2006 Depends on what you mean by "better" - I chose it as it was by far the best value at the time. Plasma = best contrast. can get burn-in easily. expensive DLP = good contrast. can't burn-in. cheaper, but physically larger than the other two. LCD = terrible contrast. can get burn-in but not easily. expensive There are more factors but those are some of the common ones. For just watching videos, plasma may be the best solution if you can afford it. But if you use the display for a PC, gaming, or anything where burn-in could be a problem - DLP is often the best. I think it has the best viewing angle as well but I'm not 100% sure of that. Value is the biggest reason to go DLP, if you don't mind giving up the "coolness" factor of a completely flat display. If you're looking to buy a new display try the home theater forum here or AVSforum. I think you're over stating the ease of burn in on plasmas a bit. It happens but not nearly as much as people would tend to believe. One con to DLP is also the issue with delay when scaling and the fact that you have to replace a bulb quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huleboeren Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I think you're over stating the ease of burn in on plasmas a bit. It happens but not nearly as much as people would tend to believe. One con to DLP is also the issue with delay when scaling and the fact that you have to replace a bulb quite often. Its always the bad you hear the most about :D Like everything else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted December 6, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2006 I think you're over stating the ease of burn in on plasmas a bit. It happens but not nearly as much as people would tend to believe. One con to DLP is also the issue with delay when scaling and the fact that you have to replace a bulb quite often. You don't have to replace the bulb that often... every few years and it's not exactly hard. Heck, even LCDs have a backlight that eventually will wear out and I've never seen one that facilitated replacing it. I don't think I overstated burn-in on plasmas. I didn't say leaving something on the screen for five minutes would burn it in or anything ridiculous like that. But I frequently leave my living room with the Xbox 360 sitting at the Guide screen or my cable box in its Guide menu and get distracted, so it will sit there for hours sometimes. And I used to use it as a Media Center display, often with the MCE app minimized and such. Sure screensavers like the dimming one on the 360 help (same goes for a PC or MCE) - but it is nice not to have to even worry about it. For me it was a matter of plasma's advantages not being worth the added cost. And the fact that it has some disadvantages (even if they're minor or hypothetical) only made the value of DLP more compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted December 6, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2006 Depends on what you mean by "better" - I chose it as it was by far the best value at the time. Plasma = best contrast. can get burn-in easily. expensive DLP = good contrast. can't burn-in. cheaper, but physically larger than the other two. LCD = terrible contrast. can get burn-in but not easily. expensive There are more factors but those are some of the common ones. For just watching videos, plasma may be the best solution if you can afford it. But if you use the display for a PC, gaming, or anything where burn-in could be a problem - DLP is often the best. I think it has the best viewing angle as well but I'm not 100% sure of that. Value is the biggest reason to go DLP, if you don't mind giving up the "coolness" factor of a completely flat display. If you're looking to buy a new display try the home theater forum here or AVSforum. I'd say that plasma's have the best viewing angle compared to the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted December 6, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2006 You don't have to replace the bulb that often... every few years and it's not exactly hard. Heck, even LCDs have a backlight that eventually will wear out and I've never seen one that facilitated replacing it. I don't think I overstated burn-in on plasmas. I didn't say leaving something on the screen for five minutes would burn it in or anything ridiculous like that. But I frequently leave my living room with the Xbox 360 sitting at the Guide screen or my cable box in its Guide menu and get distracted, so it will sit there for hours sometimes. And I used to use it as a Media Center display, often with the MCE app minimized and such. Sure screensavers like the dimming one on the 360 help (same goes for a PC or MCE) - but it is nice not to have to even worry about it. For me it was a matter of plasma's advantages not being worth the added cost. And the fact that it has some disadvantages (even if they're minor or hypothetical) only made the value of DLP more compelling. DLP bulbs have an average life of 4,000 to 6,000 hours compared to an LCD backlight that ranges from 60,000 to 80,000 hours. It's a huge difference. While it may be easy to change a DLP bulb, the cost is not exactly nominal. I'd say that plasma's have the best viewing angle compared to the other two. Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhMuffin Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 How the hell dose a LCD burn in? There is nothing "burning away" inside... Only a back light. As for LCD contrast... I have a 2000:1 LCD, and blacks look amazing... LCD's have improved a HUGE amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted December 7, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2006 An average Plasma TV has a contrast ratio of 5000:1 and above. Also, LCD TVs don't have "burn-in" issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyoncmdr Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 "Burn in" is when a static image is displayed on screen for a length of time and the ghost of that image stays. So you could leave it at the 360 dashboard and leave it on for 3 days straight, it will probably have an image of the dashboard that will be viewable on everything you watch after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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