BryanChung Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Do you on uPNP on your router? If yes, why? If no, why? Does it improve your connection if it's OFF/ON? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted December 31, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 31, 2006 thread title grammar fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanChung Posted December 31, 2006 Author Share Posted December 31, 2006 Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted December 31, 2006 MVC Share Posted December 31, 2006 (edited) I would hope it off by default on most routers.. To be honest, it can be a nice function for quite a few users -- but users should really understand what is open on their routers and what is not.. I know its alot to ask, when most users have no idea if they have a router or a modem, and have not clue one to what a port is or even an IP address for that matter.. The thought of software opening up forwards on the border device without asking boo of the user is not a good idea in general if you ask me.... But since a user should have to turn it on, you would hope that they atleast grasp the gist of how it works, and what it can do.. But somehow I doubt that is the case most of the time. I would suggest that is be left OFF! Unless you have a specific need for it, and are too lazy or stupid to setup a port forward.. If your not going to be using it, then you might as well turn off the SSDP Discovery Service on your windows machine as well - no use looking for UPnP devices on your network, if your not going to be using it, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanChung Posted December 31, 2006 Author Share Posted December 31, 2006 Another fantastic reply from BudMan! Good on you mate! Does enable or disable -ing it make a difference to the connection speed? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNay Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Mines off by default :) I manually enter ports I need to open, eg for Bit Torrent and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted December 31, 2006 MVC Share Posted December 31, 2006 Does enable or disable -ing it make a difference to the connection speed? :) It should not make any diff to your connection speed.. But I have seen it cause disconnects, when one machine on the network wants to open something up with UPnP.. All current connections on the router can be disconnected/resetI have seen it drive people nuts trying to figure out why, when their brother or sister open up some IM client -- their FTP download stops, etc.. ;) Look at it this way - it could in no way shape or form make your connection faster. So it would make little sense that having it on would make your connection slower.. But it can, depending on your router cause resets in your active connections when forwards are either opened or closed on the fly by some UPnP software on your network. So as I already stated - unless you have "specific" use for it - I would suggest it be turned off.. And then since it off on your router, there is little use of the service running on your windows machine by default.. So might as well turn that off, which will free up a very small amount of resources on your machine for other use, and will also be a "tiny" bit less traffic on your local network -- since your machine will not be looking for UPnP devices ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 31, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 31, 2006 I have mine on, mainly because i can't be bothered forwarding ports for non-important things, if i use it more than a couple of hours a day, it gets a permanent forward rule in the firewall on my router (so BitTorrent, apache, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3xis Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Mine's off because I'm used to port forwarding everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanChung Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 So it's basically for convinence sake that people enable it for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echilon Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 It doesn't work with everything, but I leave it on incase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrrgh Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I keep mine always on, the security trade off seems insignificant on a home network when compared to the trouble of creating/updating portforward rules for n machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehemoth Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Well the mine is open up but today i learn (here) the problems that can cause this with diferents computers so as i can open manually the ports i'll disable it. Thank you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted January 2, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 2, 2007 I have mine turned off :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orry Verducci Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Mines on as I know exactly what is running on my computer at all times and therefore I know what I'm trusting. It doesn't seem to take effect anyways, I've still had to setup port forwarding for BitTorrent and such, despite the fact the software claims to be uPnP compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted January 2, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 2, 2007 i love uPnP. My 360 opens all the ports it needs and all the other software i need and they close when i turn the Xbox off... how much more secure could you need to be instead of leaving it open all the time with port forwarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted January 2, 2007 MVC Share Posted January 2, 2007 Ports open with no services listening are not unsecure.. Its not knowing what is open, or having any control over what and when they open which can be seen as unsecure.. Any software you run, could in essense open up ports on your router that you have NO IDEA of.. That is not secure.. Ports forwarded to NOTHING, ie nothing listening on them - ie the service/application/device that needs the open port is not running. How many ports do you think your xbox needs btw?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soham Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 http://portforward.com/routers.htm Just go here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I have mine on; Love it. Makes all my P2P applications and Xbox gaming great. I personally recommend it to anyone and when I get a new router, it has to have uPnP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereopixels Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I leave mine turned off and configure my ports manually; I don't think it particularly secure to have any computer or console opening whatever port it feels like; I manually enable the ports I do need for FTP/consoles. Not that I'm critical of uPnP; it's a great idea but not when you've got other people using other computers in the house who aren't quite as on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanChung Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) I was at another forum and few users were complaining about how slow their Torrent speed were. Then this user comments Forget abt port-forwarding, turn on UPnP. Can hit >100K easily. And when I told him that's not true, he challenged me by saying:What do I get if I can show u the result? What's your say? Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroday Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Nope, always off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Mines off - I configure all my ports manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Well, it doesn't even work with uTorrent so his statement isn't going to help me speed things up :p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 disabled on router, i'll be judge of what gets opened on my router not someone elses program :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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