Force sites to allow IE to enter "Firefox Only" sites


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Im ****ed and disgusted at stupid sites that come up with a frontpage that says "You are using a old browser. Update to Firefox!". It ****ed me off because it should allow any user to enter the site with whatever browser they want.

Anyway to bypass this and enter the site with IE7?

Edit: Damn typos and spelling typos..

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screw that site. Firefox is like 10% in the browser market. if they want to not allow the ie browser then they're really hurting themselves.

or maybe they haven't updated the site for ie7 and it doesn't recognize it.

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The designer obviously is a delusional prick. OK, FF may or may not have some advantages over IE. But a good designer takes the audience into consideration.

Anyhow, would it be worth using FF? I do not call this an upgrade, as it is NOT an upgrade - it's a change in browser.

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But its his website, if he chooses to restrict people based on browser then its his prerogative, he might have functionality that only works in Firefox, calling him a prick is a bit out of order.

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If a website wants to prefer its use to only one browser and simply doesn't like competition, the site is not worth it to view. If they coded it for one browser, that's a shame seeing how IE has the biggest use on the web.

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But its his website, if he chooses to restrict people based on browser then its his prerogative, he might have functionality that only works in Firefox, calling him a prick is a bit out of order.

His perogative yes, but it is a ridiculous decision. As for functionality - a good designer will present the information to other browsers in a different way or at least explain why he is blocking IE/Opera/etc. The point of pretty much every site is to deliver information and he is failing to do that.

The prick comment is because he is attempting to force his view that FF is an upgrade to IE. This is NOT true. It's is a different browser choice, nothing more.

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His perogative yes, but it is a ridiculous decision. As for functionality - a good designer will present the information to other browsers in a different way or at least explain why he is blocking IE/Opera/etc. The point of pretty much every site is to deliver information and he is failing to do that.

The prick comment is because he is attempting to force his view that FF is an upgrade to IE. This is NOT true. It's is a different browser choice, nothing more.

Fanboyism to the max. Don't even bother with sites like that.
+1 to both posts :yes:. Very well put (Y).
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isnt't that because update.microsoft.com relies on activex, which is a feature of only IE?

That is not true. There are alternative plugins that work in Opera/FF/etc. that allow you to use the regular microsoft update site, and any other site that uses Activex.

Like you can see here:

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But as for a way to get IE into that site, unless you can get it to send a different user-agent string then I don't think you can do it.

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It ****ed me off because it should allow any user to enter the site with whatever browser they want.

Unless you actually develop websites, you don't realise how frustrating working with IE is. I develop it all in FireFox, do everything by the standards, and you know, it looks awesome and perfect, as it should. And then you load up IE 6 and yuck, its doing things its not supposed to be doing.

So that leaves you with a few choices,

- try and find a hack to make it work in both browsers.. which isn't always worth it

- try a completely different approach to what your doing

- block IE

I don't see blocking IE as all that bad a alternative when you've been working on something for so long only to find it is unuseable in IE.

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Unless the detection script was well-written (which I doubt) it'll be easy as heck to circumvent. Either by changing your Useragent, or by disabling scripting.

It'll be harder to circumvent server-side detection (which rely on things like say, accepted encoding) but it's still possible with third party programs.

The only thing that I cant see circumventable is hacks (not detection scripts this time) that take advantage of the rendering flaws, and so far I've seen nobody use that kind of hack (it's just not worth the effort, they might as well code a second layout specifically for IE if they're going to do it. Plus it may invalidate their code too.)

Not everyone who block IE are fanboys, there are plenty of sites with valid reasons to do so, it just happens that the fanboy base is a lot larger, that's all. Plus, we have to put up with IE-only sites all the time who dont even have a reason for doing it.

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Unless you actually develop websites, you don't realise how frustrating working with IE is. I develop it all in FireFox, do everything by the standards, and you know, it looks awesome and perfect, as it should. And then you load up IE 6 and yuck, its doing things its not supposed to be doing.
Ok Firefox has only been around for like 3 years or something (if that) all of thoses 100+ billion sites on the internet a good 99.99 billion were probably made using IE to work for IE.
I don't see blocking IE as all that bad a alternative when you've been working on something for so long only to find it is unuseable in IE.

Assume your running an online store,now answer thruthfully, would you rather have it looking messed up and getting 1000 customers a day or have it look all pretty and get 10 customers a day.

Remember IE comes on 99.99999999999% of computers your average mum and dad user buy, then theres people like me who are tech savy and aren't fooled by the omfg firefox is teh l33t secure browser, then some people who just keep Ie because it works.

So thats still a good 90% or so who run IE.

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no, honestly hitman, IE is a pain in the arse. Ive written websites in Firefox that looked super but when I got to IE it was a MESS. There are too many bugs with IE6's CSS rendering. Granted, IE7 is a bit better but still has a whole lot of bugs in it. I dont blame that site one bit for what theyre doing. If it forces MS to render CSS correctly, then by all means, more sites should do it.

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http://duggmirror.com/apple/Dual_boot_OSX_...ndows_computer/

screw that site. Firefox is like 10% in the browser market. if they want to not allow the ie browser then they're really hurting themselves.

or maybe they haven't updated the site for ie7 and it doesn't recognize it.

Yes I know...It also makes me sick

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Unless you actually develop websites, you don't realise how frustrating working with IE is. I develop it all in FireFox, do everything by the standards, and you know, it looks awesome and perfect, as it should. And then you load up IE 6 and yuck, its doing things its not supposed to be doing.

So that leaves you with a few choices,

- try and find a hack to make it work in both browsers.. which isn't always worth it

- try a completely different approach to what your doing

- block IE

I don't see blocking IE as all that bad a alternative when you've been working on something for so long only to find it is unuseable in IE.

I don't give a ****; Present a warning that says "IE doesnt render this page properly and using FF would make it look better. To continue click here" and thats it. But dont ban me from the site for using a browser such as IE (and the page seems to take in count of IE6 not IE7)

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maybe ff is better ... an you dont know it yet ie 7 tab browsing looks like my 6 yr created it ...its junk pop up blocker doesnt block anything maybe the guys trying to save his veiwers from getting spyware .. ect when visiting other sites

just a thought..lol

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IE7 is a bit better, at least PNGs work, and you can hack it to render XHTML being sent with the correct content type. IE6 though...you could get just about anything to work with that browser, but in some cases, it required an entirely separate stylesheet and image set just for itself - some people aren't willing to go that far.

I don't know, maybe people are too idiotic to realize it, but the webdesigner's choice not to support certain browsers (be it IE, Firefox, Opera, or Safari) has little to no impact on the actual content quality of the site in most cases. Seriously, get ****ed off at something else like taxes. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

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