New Xbox 360 Coming Late 2007


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Do you have to pay for an IPTV service? Because if you do, I think my digital cable is good enough for me.

Thats a good question. Will IPTV be included in the Live Gold membership, or will it be an extra charge?

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Thats a good question. Will IPTV be included in the Live Gold membership, or will it be an extra charge?

Probably be charged extra, because there is some your missing here.

BT is one of the people working behind the project, they are releasing their own topset boxes. The Xbox360 is nothing more than a Media extender for it.

Microsoft ain't running the project or making their own IPTV service, it's just other companies doing, and they are just releasing software to take advantage of it. That is all.

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did you even saw the video I linked? :rolleyes: :shifty: :whistle:

WELL.... I just watched that video and although IPTV is nice, he kind of hints that a new 360 will be needed but is never asked by the interviewer or never even mentions it himself. Wtf? Spartan-X, I see you posting in other threads but not this one. :whistles:.

From the looks of it, I don't see why just using a USB cable from the receiver to the 360 would suffice. It easily has enough bandwith for 2, even 4-6 (like the video said) channels all running at the same time.

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Do you have to pay for an IPTV service? Because if you do, I think my digital cable is good enough for me.
Thats a good question. Will IPTV be included in the Live Gold membership, or will it be an extra charge?

There will be an additional charge, ontop of live.

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As Sumeet said, it's an additional charge. IPTV, contrary to what it seems, has very little to do with Xbox Live or Microsoft at all, except that all the providers listed use Microsofts IPTV platform to broadcast it. You'll need to contact your service provider (i.e. in America, one of them will more than likely be AT&T) and set up IPTV with them through Xbox Live, and pay whatever fee it costs for IPTV. You're not paying MS any money here, you're paying the IPTV provider their standard fee.

/edit - I just realized that's kinda ugly as far as wording. In short, Microsoft is providing the platform (Xbox 360) with which the IPTV service can be broadcast from if you so choose to get the service from a service provider (like AT&T). Microsoft is not a service provider here.

-Spenser

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I'm very interested in IPTV...multiple PIP is the sickness when it comes to sports.

So, in order for me to get IPTV, I now have to purchase a new 360? It won't be compatible with my current system?

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I could care less about this stuff. the only thing I would be bothered by is the bigger hard drive but I mean by then I will have an entire year of enjoyment out of my 360 and will just upgrade the hard drive. plus getting it at a microcenter for 299 (after 100 dollar MIR) I'm not too sad.

Things get updated all the time. As long as my games play on my game console I don't care. It sort of supports 1080p right now and might even get better over vga or component. Bring on the newer xbox 360. won't really effect me.

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Holy crap there's not a new version for IPTV. You don't have to wait. It'll probably be next Novembers Dashboard update that adds/enables the TV button on the Media Blade that you saw at CES. Nothing new for hardware is required for IPTV - it's all software.

Think about it - if you needed new hardware for IPTV, they would've explicitly mentioned that fact that they were using that new hardware at CES and if not, they'd have done it in the person to person interviews and IPTV demo's that they did that weren't part of the keynote. They didn't, and quite contrary, they, albeit implicitly, stated at all Xbox 360's could run IPTV.

-Spenser

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As I've said in 2 other topics, I'd be 99.9999% certain that all the IPTV stuff is is WMV streams, which is basically how the Media Center Extender works (the menus are RDP based, the video is a WMV stream.)

So, your current 360 will work. In fact, the original XBox could also do the same.

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Dude, all that was asked was for a confirm/deny on needing new hardware for IPTV, not a comprehensive presentation on the inner workings of IPTV :p :laugh:

j/k - The stuff would probably be more interesting if it weren't 2am :|

-Spenser

:blush: :cry:

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When they do released a bigger HD, how are we gonna transfer data from the current one to the bigger one?

Far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) you can't, you will be able to copy over small files using your memory unit but bigger files will be need to be recreated or re-downloaded off Xbox Live Marketplace. I'm guessing MS deliberately made it you can't transfer (large) files from the HDD to HDD as an anti-piracy measure. All that said I'm sure there is an "unofficial" way of transferring your files across though ;)

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Let's clarify a few things...

1) IPTV doesn't require a "tuner" - that's the whole point. It is IP based. All you need is a network connection.

2) IPTV doesn't require Xbox Live. It's a completely seperate service.

3) The 360 doesn't work as an "extender" for a BT or other set-top box. It is the set-top box (or one of them... you could have a 360 in one room and a regular cheaper set-top in another, or whatever).

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Let's clarify a few things...

1) IPTV doesn't require a "tuner" - that's the whole point. It is IP based. All you need is a network connection.

2) IPTV doesn't require Xbox Live. It's a completely seperate service.

3) The 360 doesn't work as an "extender" for a BT or other set-top box. It is the set-top box (or one of them... you could have a 360 in one room and a regular cheaper set-top in another, or whatever).

one thing to add to that.

It won't neccesarally be an additonal charge. That will be up to the content providers to determine. What I can see happenning in the UK, is that the channels usually on freeview will be free (or a small charge), and then premium channels (say for sport or whatever), will be charged for as a subsciption or as pay per view.

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Let's clarify a few things...

1) IPTV doesn't require a "tuner" - that's the whole point. It is IP based. All you need is a network connection.

2) IPTV doesn't require Xbox Live. It's a completely seperate service.

3) The 360 doesn't work as an "extender" for a BT or other set-top box. It is the set-top box (or one of them... you could have a 360 in one room and a regular cheaper set-top in another, or whatever).

Live is actually required else your won't have a connection with Microsofts online servers.

That said, the free silver subscription will prob. be enough.

Hoping they go international and what speeds I will reach here in Europe.

Can't wait to watch The Office, Heroes, Jericho, 24 etc in HD without having to pirate them of the intarnetz

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It's funny how Spartan avoids answering the question about whether or not this will require new hardware :rofl:

"If my car was designed to run on leaded gasoline, will it operate satisfactorily on unleaded gasoline?" :rolleyes: :unsure: :blink:

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Holy crap there's not a new version for IPTV. You don't have to wait. It'll probably be next Novembers Dashboard update that adds/enables the TV button on the Media Blade that you saw at CES. Nothing new for hardware is required for IPTV - it's all software.

Think about it - if you needed new hardware for IPTV, they would've explicitly mentioned that fact that they were using that new hardware at CES and if not, they'd have done it in the person to person interviews and IPTV demo's that they did that weren't part of the keynote. They didn't, and quite contrary, they, albeit implicitly, stated at all Xbox 360's could run IPTV.

-Spenser

Well, I agree 100% with you, and I figured as much when I first heard the news from CES.

I was just confirming the thought because I stumbled across a post where someone said HDMI was necessary to get the full worth of IPTV. Knowing that isn't the case I should have just ignored it. Thanks for the clarification though :)

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