Pilsbury Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 3) The 360 doesn't work as an "extender" for a BT or other set-top box. It is the set-top box (or one of them... you could have a 360 in one room and a regular cheaper set-top in another, or whatever). If you're refering to me, I said it works the same way as the MCE bit, ie, plays WMV streams. I didn't suggest it worked as an extender for a set-top box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted January 14, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2007 Live is actually required else your won't have a connection with Microsofts online servers.That said, the free silver subscription will prob. be enough. I don't know much about the 360's upcoming IPTV support specifically, but I would be surprised if that were the case. IPTV is a service provided by your cable or internet provider, not by Microsoft. I can't imagine any reason that a 360 would ever have to communicate with a Microsoft server when using IPTV (other than potentially for error reporting or what not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 It's funny how Spartan avoids answering the question about whether or not this will require new hardware :rofl: Probably because he either can't, or just doesn't know. Regardless, all signs point to yes; it looks like new hardware likely will be required. For those contemplating a 360 purchase, I'd hold off until at least this Fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Probably because he either can't, or just doesn't know.Regardless, all signs point to yes; it looks like new hardware likely will be required. For those contemplating a 360 purchase, I'd hold off until at least this Fall. What the? You seem to be one of very few who came to that conclusion. Most of the rest of us think all signs point to no, you won't need new hardware. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I guess you will need new hardware....which will be provided by your cable company. I think a USB wire should be enough to connect....at least I hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I guess you will need new hardware....which will be provided by your cable company. I think a USB wire should be enough to connect....at least I hope so That hardware is supposed to be a special router that can take in the fiber-optic lines needed to broadcast HD. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted January 15, 2007 Global Moderator Share Posted January 15, 2007 Probably because he either can't, or just doesn't know.Regardless, all signs point to yes; it looks like new hardware likely will be required. For those contemplating a 360 purchase, I'd hold off until at least this Fall. not exactly. If microsoft has already sold 10,000,000 consoles.. why leave all of us out in the dark about IPTV? an attachment internal (newer model?) or external (older models) will likely be available.. OR, it is already inside the xbox360 that we just do not know about yet. Until then, wait till further microsoft press releases, or Spartan X to spill the beans (if his tight lips ever will) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 *sighs* If it's provided over the internet, I don't see why extra hardware would be needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian- Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 *sighs* If it's provided over the internet, I don't see why extra hardware would be needed? yup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firen Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 not exactly. If microsoft has already sold 10,000,000 consoles.. why leave all of us out in the dark about IPTV? That is exactly what I was thinking. With 10 million consoles sold, why would MS require a new purchase. Doesn't make any sense. I highly doubt new hardware will be required. If they do require new hardware, then they will most likely release an external device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted January 15, 2007 Global Moderator Share Posted January 15, 2007 if they can add 1080p support via software update.. microsoft can do just about anything with this 360. The entire dashboard (quote me if im wrong) is 100% customizable. They can add, modify, or remove any features (in a tolerance) on this dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I'm not sure why the hell you would need new hardware for this kind of a service unless Microsoft enforces you to buy new hardware to take advantage of IPTV. "If my car was designed to run on leaded gasoline, will it operate satisfactorily on unleaded gasoline?" Sure you can, as long as you put in the additives. Anyway, the brains can already process and display compressed video. The hardware can already talk to the network. As far as I'm concerned you have everything you need for IPTV, whatever the hell that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmccoy Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I am thinking the IPTV will work on all XBOX', but we will see in Late 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted January 16, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think there's an interview out now where it is said that any Xbox 360 can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I've read that current 360's will be able to use IPTV "on some level". So, perhaps not all features will be available completely. Either way, I think it should work 100% with current 360s as well as any future 360. Functionality should be near identical sans Hard Drive. A bigger Hard Drive bundle and/or upgrade is fine since those can be upgraded but not being able to access features that newer versions of 360s will is unacceptable. Can't find the article right now, though. If I do, I will post back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I've read that current 360's will be able to use IPTV "on some level". So, perhaps not all features will be available completely. Either way, I think it should work 100% with current 360s as well as any future 360. Functionality should be near identical sans Hard Drive. A bigger Hard Drive bundle and/or upgrade is fine since those can be upgraded but not being able to access features that newer versions of 360s will is unacceptable.Can't find the article right now, though. If I do, I will post back. It sucks that another thread was created about this - scattered info. Like I said before, you do not need a new 360... Well Major Nelson has a Blogcast where he talks to a few people. One of them is BIGVip about Xbox 360 IPTv.In the cast he says that IPTv will not require a new Xbox 360 and it's just a downloaded upgrade like the updates we have all the time. Other IPTV Thread on this forum Dunno what your article was talking about, or what the devil Paul was talking about, but the current 360's are up to the full IPTV experience. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I hope that is indeed the case. The issue that still remains, however, is HDMI out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goji Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 If thats the case might as well purchase a standalone HD-DVD player. I hate tons of components :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 The issue that still remains, however, is HDMI out. HDMI out it's just a downloaded upgrade like the updates we have all the time. :laugh: :rofl: :p :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 HDMI out it's just a downloaded upgrade like the updates we have all the time. :laugh: :rofl: :p :whistle: Hopefully, but who knows. Why would Microsoft bother 'experimenting' with a 360 that has a built-in HDMI out if current 360s were capable of it? Why hasn't an HDMI cable been released yet if it's just a simple downloadable upgrade to enable it? Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hopefully, but who knows. Why would Microsoft bother 'experimenting' with a 360 that has a built-in HDMI out if current 360s were capable of it? Why hasn't an HDMI cable been released yet if it's just a simple downloadable upgrade to enable it? Hmm... I was talking about d/l THE port itself... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I was talking about d/l THE port itself... :p But of course. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted January 16, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2007 man I think I going to buy a 360 this year and if they are going to make a new one they better announce it before I buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I hope that is indeed the case. The issue that still remains, however, is HDMI out. Don't mean to come across as rude, but the minute you bought a 360 you should have known that wouldn't be a feature. It's not like you can just have an add-on to the back, because then you're downgrading the signal (for instance, from digital to analog). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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