Tech Star Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I read in PC Mag that it was changed....you can run the OS on a new PC ONLY if you uninstall it from your old PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) I read in PC Mag that it was changed....you can run the OS on a new PC ONLY if you uninstall it from your old PC. There's a thread on here with a link to an MDSN blog that says they've changed it to use a points system, so repalcing the mobo may mean you need a new license. Link to thread - https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=531319&hl= Link to MSDN blog (in norweigen) - http://blogs.msdn.com/runez/archive/2006/1...aktivering.aspx I suppose the only way is to find out from MS themselves. Can't see point e-mailing them right now mind you, as Vista still isn't officially released, so they probably won't answer the question. Although I will email them to see. edit - email sent. Edited January 23, 2007 by WelshBluebird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deihmos Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) So you think you'll be able to install the 32 bit then go back later and use it to trasnfer to 64 bit? Doesnt sound like the microsoft way! Yes with the retail version you will get both versions (32bit and 64bit) with one key for both. You will need to purchase either or with the OEM versions. If the price was much lower then it wmight be worth it but at $199.00 for one version it's a rip off. The retail vbersion can be transferred to a new PC but cannot be done for OEM. There are many articles about and are easy to find. Edited January 23, 2007 by Deihmos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazed_N_Confused Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Thanks for the info..but none of that is offical MS documents or released statements. Hopefully well get more clarity if they respond to your email. :whistle: There's a thread on here with a link to an MDSN blog that says they've changed it to use a points system, so repalcing the mobo may mean you need a new license.Link to thread - https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=531319&hl= Link to MSDN blog (in norweigen) - http://blogs.msdn.com/runez/archive/2006/1...aktivering.aspx I suppose the only way is to find out from MS themselves. Can't see point e-mailing them right now mind you, as Vista still isn't officially released, so they probably won't answer the question. Although I will email them to see. edit - email sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofmyworld324 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I'm a little confused. If i need to reformat for some reason, i will be able to as long as i dont change the motherboard? If this is true, how many times can i reformat and install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 What's the difference between a OEM package a retail one? Anything lacking in the install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I submitted this for the frontpage, but they obviously didn't think it was important enough. Oh well. My free copy of Business should be here today/tomorrow, but I may get a OEM copy of Ultimate for my laptop. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximum Error Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Got my Vista ultimate and Home premium today from OCUK........... running amazing :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v0ltage789 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I submitted this for the frontpage, but they obviously didn't think it was important enough. Oh well.My free copy of Business should be here today/tomorrow, but I may get a OEM copy of Ultimate for my laptop. :yes: seems they don't take submissions seriously anymore, i have submitted a lot and then 2 minutes later its posted by an official news poster with no credit..hehe What happened to getting 32 bit and 64 bit in one package, is that only retail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBinder Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 IF YOU LIVE IN UK GET VISTA OEM FROM EBUYER IT HAS THE LOWEST PRICES please remember some versions currently out of stock still so you might have to wait http://forums.ebuyer.com/showthread.php?t=2595 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 What happened to getting 32 bit and 64 bit in one package, is that only retail? As it turns out retail does not include both either. Retail is DVD and 32 bit. You can fill out some form online through Microsoft and they will mail you CDs if need be, and this is also how you can get the x64 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 So guttered, if i had 2GB RAM on my Desktop PC right now, i would definately have Vista installed and running... Shame i have to wait until February :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted January 23, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 23, 2007 I posted direct links to the items on NewEgg for those that were interested. :whistle:Yes there is, keep in mind OEM is just that OEM, meaning you're only getting the CD and a CD Key, no instruction manuals and marketing mumbo jumbo, RETAIL is just that RETAIL, you're getting perhaps a manual, CD in CD Case or CD Mailer, CD Key, Marketing mumbo jumbo, certificate of authenticity (not sure if they still do this now with Retail OS purchases) Back me up if I'm wrong but that's the jist of OEM vs Retail, if u can go OEM, you can always get a manual online for the most part :rofl: 4) It also seems that OEM versions have limited number of activations (two at most), but this is still uncertain. OEM is limited to one machine. Were you to try to activate it on a machine with a different mobo and processor, it would deny you. This is why I'm spending the extra little bit and getting Retail. I know I'll change my system in a year or two, and I don't feel like buying a second OEM copy then. As it turns out retail does not include both either.Retail is DVD and 32 bit. You can fill out some form online through Microsoft and they will mail you CDs if need be, and this is also how you can get the x64 version. Where did you see that? I heard there was the option to choose during the install and I've heard there are two discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 So guttered, if i had 2GB RAM on my Desktop PC right now, i would definitely have Vista installed and running... Shame i have to wait until February :( Why would you need 2GB? People saying you need 2GB just have no idea what they are talking about, I know many machines running 1GB fine, it has more to due with your vidcard and CPU then how much ram you have. 1GB is just perfectly fine. In fact my Vista machine made a bigger improvement(noticeable) going from 1 2.2ghz amd CPU to a dual core amd 2.2GHz cpu then it did moving from 1gb to 2gb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) Where did you see that? I heard there was the option to choose during the install and I've heard there are two discs. Trust me (or don't), but I just saw a picture of the official packaging (someone who already got there copy) and it specifically says this in the the box. And some retail packaging porn for those interested: Edited January 23, 2007 by xxdesmus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted January 23, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 23, 2007 That's the academic version which would technically be a little different than the Retail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp04 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 YES! There is an academic version of home premium! Now I just have to wait until the University of Minnesota offers it, which then ill get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak_power Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The main difference between OEM and Retail is that you can't transfer your OEM license from one PC to another PC. Basically if you replace your PC machine with a new one...you won't be able to activate your OEM copy on the new PC.... Well yeah right.... Anyway i might get Home Basic to load up into one of my machines. I found out how to anable Aero on Home Basic...just to figure out how to enable support for more then one physical CPU. Dual, Quad Core CPU should be recognized fine by Home Basic. Home Basic is very appealing to me because of all the features removed from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Coscia Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The main difference between OEM and Retail is that you can't transfer your OEM license from one PC to another PC. Basically if you replace your PC machine with a new one...you won't be able to activate your OEM copy on the new PC....Well yeah right.... Anyway i might get Home Basic to load up into one of my machines. I found out how to anable Aero on Home Basic...just to figure out how to enable support for more then one physical CPU. Dual, Quad Core CPU should be recognized fine by Home Basic. Home Basic is very appealing to me because of all the features removed from it. I don't get this whole can't transfer OEM thing. I was able to transfer my OEM copy of MCE from an older PC to a new one without any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 So guttered, if i had 2GB RAM on my Desktop PC right now, i would definitely have Vista installed and running... Shame i have to wait until February :( Why would you need 2GB? People saying you need 2GB just have no idea what they are talking about, I know many machines running 1GB fine, it has more to due with your vidcard and CPU then how much ram you have. 1GB is just perfectly fine. In fact my Vista machine made a bigger improvement(noticeable) going from 1 2.2ghz amd CPU to a dual core amd 2.2GHz cpu then it did moving from 1gb to 2gb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markko Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Can you upgrade from XP using the OEM versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak_power Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Why would you need 2GB? People saying you need 2GB just have no idea what they are talking about, I know many machines running 1GB fine, it has more to due with your vidcard and CPU then how much ram you have. 1GB is just perfectly fine. In fact my Vista machine made a bigger improvement(noticeable) going from 1 2.2ghz amd CPU to a dual core amd 2.2GHz cpu then it did moving from 1gb to 2gb. Because you're not gonna only run Vista but games and apps, and you need 2GB of RAM. Example...Battlefield 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_rh Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Two Vista Home Premium OEM for me please :yes: Damn! I wanna the retail package :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofmyworld324 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 If I'm using an oem version of Vista and need to reformat for some reason, will i be able to as long as i dont change the motherboard? If this is true, how many times can i reformat and install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 just FYI, I've had a reply from MS, and there is no change in the license. It is locked to the first PC you install it on. How strict they are going to be with it though, only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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