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why do we need vista, whats wrong with xp

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martym    0

Why do we need vista, whats wrong with xp. Personally I dont think there is anything wrong with xp ,ms could have improved xp instead of making a whole new operating system. Whats after vista and will ms copy apple. I am sure by now most people are happy and used to xp.

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Mordkanin    225

Why do we need XP? What's wrong with Windows 95? Windows 3.11?

Windows XP is 5 years old. That's an eternity in the computing word, and a lot of the stuff in Vista couldn't be added to it without the major changes that justify a whole new release. Completely new driver models, DirectX 10, desktop composition, a totally new network stack, redesigning so much of the shell around indexing, better performance than XP with newer hardware, etc, etc. None of that could go into XP, because in essence, you'd have Vista.

I recommend you read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_Vista

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NienorGT    18

You know, if you ask this question, then ask, why XP? What wrong with 95?

There nothing really wrong, just the evolution.

Edit: MioTheGreat simply stolen my thoughts :o

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Lighthalzen    62

They need to make money you know... plus people like us want to explore new things. Plus, there are lot more features in Windows Vista that you might or might not know.

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MrCobra    0
Why do we need vista, whats wrong with xp. Personally I dont think there is anything wrong with xp ,ms could have improved xp instead of making a whole new operating system. Whats after vista and will ms copy apple. I am sure by now most people are happy and used to xp.

Absolutely nothing is wrong with XP. I restored my image of XP already. A week of Vista with all the UI errors, sh*tty sound performance, sh*tty video performance and the overall crap quality (IMO) I had to go back to XP. At least with XP all my hardware works and I have no broken applications. Maybe SP1 will fix it but I doubt it. Most things in Vista are developed with DRM in mind. That's why there's no hardware accelerated sound support anymore.

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Night Prowler    132

Exactly.... Most are updating becuse of the hype that has surrounded Vista. I found Vista more cumbersome to use. The fancy UI is not worth it or the added security freatures. Give it another year to mature and it migt be worth it. What I would really like to see for XP is the sidebar, which there is a planned release for XP, I just don't know when. I know there are some out therr that are poor clones.

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aydc    0

How would they earn money if they didn't market a new OS? I agree that Vista is nothing more than Windows 5.2, but they make a living from selling new stuff to people.

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Mordkanin    225
I found Vista more cumbersome to use.

To be honest, after a few weeks of use, you really do learn how to do things in Vista faster than you could with XP, and XP seems incredibly clumsy, backwards and even stupid in the ways you have to go around doing so many things you can accomplish so simply in Vista. Examples: Breadcrumb navigation in explorer, the new start menu with it's instant search and overall coolness, etc.

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tnsply100    0

I don't know what MS did, but my onboard HD audio has never sounded so good as it does under Vista. Neither XP nor Slackware Linux (ALSA) have been able to provide this type of quality. Also, the per-application sound adjustment is a great feature. Other features within the OS are listed under the link posted above.

Aside from that, the full power of Vista will not be unleashed until the developers get it. After all, that's the whole point of an OS - to let you run applications. Wait a year before asking this question.

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Googintosh    6

You don't need Vista. You don't need a cell phone that can take digital pictures or play MP3s. You don't need a watch that is able to connect to the Internet so you can see RSS feeds from your favourite porn torrent tracker. Really, you don't need most crap they market us.

But. . . you will need DX10 to play kick-ass games! Whenever games start taking advantage of DX10 that is. Is that not reason enough? Everything else that comes bundled with DX10 (such as Vista) is an added bonus. :D

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Night Prowler    132
To be honest, after a few weeks of use, you really do learn how to do things in Vista faster than you could with XP, and XP seems incredibly clumsy, backwards and even stupid in the ways you have to go around doing so many things you can accomplish so simply in Vista. Examples: Breadcrumb navigation in explorer, the new start menu with it's instant search and overall coolness, etc.

Basically, what it is to most is the so called coolness of Vista. There will be no advantage to most users updating to Vista, other then the coolness, and is it really worth the dollars.

PS: I did shell out the $220 for Vista Ultimate OEM, but will I install it for my main OS of choice... Nope, not until I can run Vista with all the programs I'm running on my XP system and the drivers for my hardware. When I can do a reliable upgrade I might, but according to the upgrade advisor I will loose some items. I will do a fresh install, but I want all my programs and my hardware to follow me.

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sundayx    127

I don't need Vista until I get a new computer. End of that

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Night Prowler    132
You don't need Vista. You don't need a cell phone that can take digital pictures or play MP3s. You don't need a watch that is able to connect to the Internet so you can see RSS feeds from your favourite porn torrent tracker. Really, you don't need most crap they market us.

But. . . you will need DX10 to play kick-ass games! Whenever games start taking advantage of DX10 that is. Is that not reason enough? Everything else that comes bundled with DX10 (such as Vista) is an added bonus. :D

Don't mess with my porn.... :(

Gaming on a PC is over rated. If you REALLY want to game you need something more dedicated....

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mudslag    8,019
Why do we need vista, whats wrong with xp. Personally I dont think there is anything wrong with xp ,ms could have improved xp instead of making a whole new operating system. Whats after vista and will ms copy apple. I am sure by now most people are happy and used to xp.

You know you're right, I should keep my 5yr old OS. In fact I should keep my 5yr old car, upgrades rule. Oh and forget those new shoes, my 5yr old shoes rock, even with the torn heal, nothing a little super glue cant fix. Good thing those twinkies last way longer then 5yrs so Im safe there when it comes to food. To bad it sucks that I had to spend as much to get my 5yr old pc up to date then to buy a new one. :rolleyes:

You know for all the amount of money that people spend on daily living like food, clothes, car and gas, ect, people bitch about stupid things like Vista. Vista will cost the avg person less then their daily cost of food, over its lifetime. You spend more money on much lesser needs. Yes it will cost more for those that upgrade their systems offten but those amounts are very small.

As for the whole "M$ copies apple" crap talk, Im so sick of hearing that. First off So <snipped> what, every major industry copies their competitors, thats part of business. Hello can you say Burger King and McDonalds, just look at every type of business there is and you'll have almost a carbon copy as a competitor. No one bitches about that till M$'s name comes into it then the fire storm starts. Its just a bunch of retarded nonsense.

Don't mess with my porn.... :(

Gaming on a PC is over rated. If you REALLY want to game you need something more dedicated....

oh yeah another personal opinion, please school us on why its over rated? :rolleyes:

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Sniper101    0

Well really you don't need vista but its just best to be upto date thats all, most people will be waiting for SP1 before they buy vista. Even though XP still has some life in side it microsoft will eventually faze it out slowly but surely.

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Night Prowler    132
You know you're right, I should keep my 5yr old OS. In fact I should keep my 5yr old car, upgrades rule. Oh and forget those new shoes, my 5yr old shoes rock, even with the torn heal, nothing a little super glue cant fix. Good thing those twinkies last way longer then 5yrs so Im safe there when it comes to food. To bad it sucks that I had to spend as much to get my 5yr old pc up to date then to buy a new one. :rolleyes:

You know for all the amount of money that people spend on daily living like food, clothes, car and gas, ect, people bitch about stupid things like Vista. Vista will cost the avg person less then their daily cost of food, over its lifetime. You spend more money on much lesser needs. Yes it will cost more for those that upgrade their systems offten but those amounts are very small.

As for the whole "M$ copies apple" crap talk, Im so sick of hearing that. First off So <snipped> what, every major industry copies their competitors, thats part of business. Hello can you say Burger King and McDonalds, just look at every type of business there is and you'll have almost a carbon copy as a competitor. No one bitches about that till M$'s name comes into it then the fire storm starts. Its just a bunch of retarded nonsense.

oh yeah another personal opinion, please school us on why its over rated? :rolleyes:

Gaming on a dedicated gaming system is by far more superior then gaming on a desktop computer, for MOST, and I'm are talking about the amount of money that needs to be thrown at a desktop to make it even come close to a dedicated gaming system.

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DKAngel    314

wah wah wah wah, i just cant use xp any more, feels clumsy outdated and slow vista is a hell of alot more fluid

"Absolutely nothing is wrong with XP. I restored my image of XP already. A week of Vista with all the UI errors, sh*tty sound performance, sh*tty video performance and the overall crap quality (IMO) I had to go back to XP. At least with XP all my hardware works and I have no broken applications. Maybe SP1 will fix it but I doubt it. Most things in Vista are developed with DRM in mind. That's why there's no hardware accelerated sound support anymore."

what a load of ****, drm doesnt affect u unless ur using drm stuff, and all the ****ty performance isnt vistas fault go blame the other companies that are to slow to actually get of there ass to code drivers properly =] they have had 5 years to work on it, and hell most of the applications from xp work in vista anyways, and there is hardware sound stilljust not proper direct sound3d for stupid eax to work thru

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mudslag    8,019
Gaming on a dedicated gaming system is by far more superior then gaming on a desktop computer, for MOST, and I'm are talking about the amount of money that needs to be thrown at a desktop to make it even come close to a dedicated gaming system.

Im sorry but that all depends on the type of gamer you are. I cant stand consoles and the games offered on them. I am also an online gamer and consoles just dont have what it takes to provide any where near the flexibility that computer gaming offers. So no its not really superior, its all relative to each person only.

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Bawx    0

What's wrong with a 1989 Honda Civic?

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chimera963    0

NOTHING is wrong with xp. Vista is just a waste of time and money. Though if you're a hardcore gamer with a top pc, there IS a reason to get vista.

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notuptome2004    156

Hey i Still got my Baby cribb, I wont throw it away and upgrade cause oh it iis so damn comfortable. pfft . Stick with XP if you want but XP is after all the last Operating system from microsoft that still uses outdated frameworks under the hood all from windows 95 days. oh well with the minor exception of windows 2003 witch isant for everyone in the consumer world but still.

Vista like windows 95 has the Frameworks in witch future Windows operating system will be based around and evan added on to and enhanced but not overhauld. i will Assume that in 12 more years to 15 years or more microsoft will completely overhaul all current technolagies running windows vista and future enhanced version tweaked version for future Oses such as Vienna. so in 15 years a new Windows presentation foundation will replace what is ther now and a new breed of windows will be around.

so 12 years of using current windows XPs GDI 2d graphics rendering engines and win32 sound sub system and networking systems well it was about time we had somthing refreshing and New to run under windows for new breed of hardware and new breed of programmers who want to take ther applications further farther then they could with them 12 year old technolagies

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r47xdy88    2

To be honest you don't really need Vista at all, however XP is aging and soon will be outnumbered by installs of Vista. This is much like the 360 launch many people wanted to know why they needed a 360 a year later and there are quite a few reasons.

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GenesisNZ    0
You know, if you ask this question, then ask, why XP? What wrong with 95?

There nothing really wrong, just the evolution.

Edit: MioTheGreat simply stolen my thoughts :o

Are you willing to go to buy a completely DRM owned OS? Let me put it this way, are you comfortable with owning an OS that will restrict and dictate that hardware/software you use purely based on its copy protection mechanisms. For example, unprotected audio-sources like SPDIF (Optical) will now be un-usable regardless of how you obtained the media you're trying to play through it.

Most of the following will be way out of your scope going by your comments but I highly recommend you read this anway:

http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-074.htm

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XerXis    259
Absolutely nothing is wrong with XP. I restored my image of XP already. A week of Vista with all the UI errors, sh*tty sound performance, sh*tty video performance and the overall crap quality (IMO) I had to go back to XP. At least with XP all my hardware works and I have no broken applications. Maybe SP1 will fix it but I doubt it. Most things in Vista are developed with DRM in mind. That's why there's no hardware accelerated sound support anymore.

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