Olemus Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Ill be ****ed if the flaws arent fixed in the new consoles i bought mine 2 weeks ago, and i know for sure that if it bricks i wont be buying another one, i think ill extend my warranty on it, but tbh no one should have to pay extra for warrantys, the console should just work ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix XII Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I've had mine since launch and still chuggin! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 :huh: Why are people so reluctant to buy a 360? Sure, a lot of the earlier consoles have been known to brick, but 15 months down the initial problems have been fixed. And for those waiting it out for the 'Zephyr', sigh at you.. I dunno either, I got my 360 on launch day here and has been going strong ever since. Nothing is perfect and MS have been really good about replacing defective units, so really there is no reason not to "Jump In" (unless you'd rather the Wii or PS3 or PC of cause :p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynnoj Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 ^ I can assure you there are still problems. I traded in my 360 for a new one a few weeks ago and that new one gave me the RROD the other night (which happened to be the day I finally went out and bought an HDTV - yeah I was ****ed). I think it was manufactured in August or September if I remember correctly.The funny thing is that the most common problem people seem to run into is the RROD, but I've been through a few 360s already and that was the first time that has happened to me. I think I've had the worst luck with these consoles... Well, my manufacture date is 28-10-2006 and I haven't had any single problems. The problems are still around, but they are a less common than with launch consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreqFace Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I feel sorry for you americans. This is the second time you've said that faulty consoles are only happening in America. What the hell gives you that idea? That makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 I've had my Super Nintendo Entertainment System for a good 15 years+. The system and all my games for it still run flawlessly :p. So there is something to compare the current generation of game consoles to. They don't make things to last anymore these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreqFace Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I've had my Super Nintendo Entertainment System for a good 15 years+. The system and all my games for it still run flawlessly :p. So there is something to compare the current generation of game consoles to. They don't make things to last anymore these days. I agree, but the problem is as a system becomes more complicated (especially moving parts; optical drives, fans etc.) they become inherently less reliable. Annoying I know, but that's the way it is. Maybe we need to go back to the basics. :p I was looking at some Mega Drives on eBay (thinking of re-buying one for nostalgias sake), and I thought to myself, "there's no way in hell there's gonna be 360's or PS3's on eBay 15 or so years, they're all gonna be dead!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted February 16, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 16, 2007 I've had my Super Nintendo Entertainment System for a good 15 years+. The system and all my games for it still run flawlessly :p. So there is something to compare the current generation of game consoles to. They don't make things to last anymore these days. They where a LOT less complex also... SNES and Genesis where basically single chip systems... and low MHz speed also... I thinkSNES ran at what 12MHz in turbo mode? and there were few parts in it, it doesnt get hot, no optical parts... they were more solid systems... Nintendo was right that cartridges where the best, but the tech wasnt there... now days we could have SD memory card cartridges they would be cheaper and could hold a pretty good sized game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I agree, but the problem is as a system becomes more complicated (especially moving parts; optical drives, fans etc.) they become inherently less reliable. Annoying I know, but that's the way it is. Maybe we need to go back to the basics. :pI was looking at some Mega Drives on eBay (thinking of re-buying one for nostalgias sake), and I thought to myself, "there's no way in hell there's gonna be 360's or PS3's on eBay 15 or so years, they're all gonna be dead!". It's also because the cost of redundancy and other fail-safe methods far outweigh the benefits (from the company perspective, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) It is an interesting thing to debate. Although I agree that yes, an XBox 360 complexity >>> complexity of a SNES, how is that magnitude of difference when compared against the Atari's complexity and the SNES's complexity? (Oh, btw...my Atari 2600 still works too...but some of the controllers are busted and most of the games don't seem to work anymore :p). I know what the problem is. It comes down to profits and the cost of manufacturing these complicated things. They could very well make a fail proof console, but it would cost the consumer more then the consumer would be willing to pay. It's just like how they can make a car that doesn't wear out...but they aren't that ****ing stupid. If they can make a space crafts that can goto the moon, then they can make things to withstand the wear and tear of the world and still run. But they aren't that ****ing stupid. As for the failure of my particular XBox 360... to my surprise, it wasn't related to the optical drive. I thought for sure that would fail before anything else. That is the most sensitive and exposed part of the system from my understanding of what all goes into the xbox 360. As long as Microsoft continues to have a good service plan for the xbox 360's with a reasonable cost assigned to repairs then I'll be happy with them, because things do break. My 4G ipod has recently been facing a lot of HDD problems. It is out of warranty and Apple's repair service wants $274 to repair it! Really they do not want to repair the device, they want me to buy a new one (as a better spec'd brand new iPod costs ~$230 off of Amazon). But they do want to give the illusion that service is available for all their products out of warranty, even if the cost makes no sense whatsoever. Edited February 16, 2007 by Shadrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olemus Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 MS should be offering free repairs imo, its a known problem so with or without warranty i believe it should be free but oh wait Lose money on console = make difference on repair cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 As long as Microsoft continues to have a good service plan for the xbox 360's with a reasonable cost assigned to repairs then I'll be happy with them, because things do break. My 4G ipod has recently been facing a lot of HDD problems. It is out of warranty and Apple's repair service wants $274 to repair it! Really they do not want to repair the device, they want me to buy a new one (as a better spec'd brand new iPod costs ~$230 off of Amazon). But they do want to give the illusion that service is available for all their products out of warranty, even if the cost makes no sense whatsoever. You can replace the HDD yourself for ~$100 :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 You can replace the HDD yourself for ~$100 :p HDD for my iPod? Yeah, I noticed that. I looked up the model and found a lot of that particular drive on eBay for ~$50 actually. My iPod seems to be working fine right now so I'm going to use it until it completely dies on me. It definitely have HDD problems, though. I will probably fix it myself in the end, though. My xbox 360 still has not made it to Microsoft's repair center :(. I think that the holiday has slowed down the transit. I just purchased a new 32" HDTV LCD on Sunday too, and I'm anxious to play my 360 on it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoadorable Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 this is because the 360 shares the same instability and space issue high-powered shuttle PC's have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplySchizo Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Sounds like a power supply issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 Sounds like a power supply issue. I certainly hope not. I didn't send in my power supply and the LED on the power supply was the correct color for each state so the support rep that was helping me said it wasn't the power supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDQuiksilver Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 What's with all the 360 problems on Neowin lately? Heh. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 Got my refurb'd XBox 360 in. Manufacturing data: 10-15-2005 :crazy: I got jipped man! That is like, from the first batch of XBox 360s!! I'm calling MS to see if I can get a year more of warranty added. Thats ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 Didn't Microsoft say somewhere that they would fix any xbox 360s manufactured before January 2006 for lifetime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dnast Subscriber² Posted February 26, 2007 Subscriber² Share Posted February 26, 2007 Didn't Microsoft say somewhere that they would fix any xbox 360s manufactured before January 2006 for lifetime? I'm guessing it was only a year, but I don't know for sure. I'd love to be proven wrong. A friend of mine had his launch 360 go bad on him last week and MS wants him to pay for the repairs. I also thought it was lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosslover Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Didn't Microsoft say somewhere that they would fix any xbox 360s manufactured before January 2006 for lifetime? lol no of course not, nobody would ever give a lifetime manufacture warranty. they said that they would repair all the 360s made in the previous year for free for this next year, which was 06. they basically just gave everybody an extended warranty, even the ones who had the first batch. I think they said they would refund the money people may have spent on repairing it like within 3 months past or something like that from when they made the announcement, other than that there was a time limit on the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 :huh: Why are people so reluctant to buy a 360? Sure, a lot of the earlier consoles have been known to brick, but 15 months down the initial problems have been fixed. And for those waiting it out for the 'Zephyr', sigh at you.. My parents offered me the chance to buy one last month but I declined. One reason Spring Semester in college was about to begin 2nd Quiter DVD Drive Eventually 3rd I plan on buying my HDTV by 08 in the summer, so I don't have to use my parents. I don't want to say I was reluctant. But I felt like I wanted to give this product some time to perfect it self if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Didn't Microsoft say somewhere that they would fix any xbox 360s manufactured before January 2006 for lifetime? I thought it was only a 1-year thing. Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 I just plugged it in and tested it out during my lunch break for 10 minutes. The drive definitely sounds quieter then my original xbox 360 and is also "notched" differently. Is there anyway to confirm what model of optical drive I have? I plan to call MS this evening and ask about extending my warranty given what they sent to me. Also, my original XBox 360 that I had replaced is still technically under warranty until next month. I'm going to look into getting an extended 2 year warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoadorable Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 well at any rate congrats on getting the new machine and game on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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