spenser.d Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I can't believe you people are making graphical judgements on such crap quality pictures. And that's besides the point that this is the same Alpha version that Bungie has released much nicer looking screenshots from. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maash Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 next time ill withhold any beta or alpha screens from neowin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v0ltage789 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 next time ill withhold any beta or alpha screens from neowin.... Maybe you shouldn't post anything if you don't care about anything but positive opinions. Doesn't matter if it's alpha or not, it looks like crap, doesn't mean that we don't appreciate you posting them. Get over yourself and relax! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt-DavidW Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I understand that its alpha and still being 'built'. just doesn't seem impressive to me atm. Doesn't matter if it's alpha or not, it looks like crap Hmm, where have I heard this before...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Maybe you shouldn't post anything if you don't care about anything but positive opinions. Doesn't matter if it's alpha or not, it looks like crap, doesn't mean that we don't appreciate you posting them. Get over yourself and relax! ;) *Sighs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathray Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 The halo fan boys will cry about any criticism ever made towards their precious. The whole "its only an alpha/beta crap" didn't hold up with windows vista and it won't here either :p You're comparing an operating system vs a game? How can you justify that logic... :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Anthony Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Better and older builds have already been pumped out. I think MS should push the release date to Spring 08, so Bungie can really perfect this game. But business is business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiGhTfast Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Who cares what it looks like i just finished playing halo2 online and didnt even think twice about the graphics the gameplay rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maash Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 Frankie (Bungie Spokesperson on NeoGAF) Stinkles from Bungie: In response to the part where screen leaker said beta will be announced in 2 weeks: Well he's dead wrong. there will be plenty of notice and PR fanfare when the date is announced, likely followed by screenshots with things like decorators, lightmaps, atmospheric effects, and about 100 other graphic features not included in this freaking ancient Alpha networking test build. You can all make up your minds about the graphics when it ships, but doing so based on this build is somewhat absurd. Anyway, Mods. What's your policy on hotlinking to things our lawyers are actively shutting down? On part where someone said go easy on the screen leaker Then he shouldn't have signed a contract saying, "Go ahead and fire me if I leak any of this shizzle" "Decorators" are things like ferns, plants, flowers, rocks, pebbles, dust - 3D stuff that turns say, ground textures into believeably 3D ground. Valhalla, the big tree filled level, for example, is absolutely festoooned in ground cover now. In the case of the shots here, it's all missing, because the Alpha build is very, very old. And not designed to be screenshotted. But rather to simply test networking and be enjoyable enough to keep folks testing networking. On how MS will determine the source of the leaker I have determined the source of every single leaked screenshot thus far. In less than 24 hrs. http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/owli...and1023_big.jpg On how MS will now deal with the leaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Better and older builds have already been pumped out.I think MS should push the release date to Spring 08, so Bungie can really perfect this game. But business is business. More time does not mean a better game. Bungie knows this. They've had three years, and they probably all think that more time isn't going to make the game any better. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maash Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 More time does not mean a better game. Bungie knows this.They've had three years, and they probably all think that more time isn't going to make the game any better. -Spenser better the graphics better the gameplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynnoj Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Well, there you have it. Now stop bashing the screens and wait for the beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagamer34 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I would have thought that people on Neowin knew what ALPHA means. ALPHA = no where near ready yet, many key pieces missing BETA = somewhat ready, few pieces missing RELEASE CANDIDATE = mostly ready, small bugs left FINAL = ready, no showstopper bugs at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konstanov Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Alpha? Doesn't the beta start later this month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted February 10, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 10, 2007 Alpha? Doesn't the beta start later this month? Check the screens--these are from old alpha builds. The beta later on is only for the multiplayer. (3 maps I believe) And who knows how many versions of the beta and alpha they will have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trong Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Alpha? Doesn't the beta start later this month? Alpha comes before Beta just to tell you. Just like A is before B. :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Alpha? Doesn't the beta start later this month? People already said that these screenshots are very, very old. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Guys these pics are unimpressive. On a pure polygon/effect basis it's only a tad better then Halo 2 (granted at 720p rather then 480p of Halo 2). But these are Alpha, I've read quite a few reports Bungie has made and these multiplayer alpha tests were missing quite a bit. No HDR, lots of placeholder textures/objects, and etc. Also remember that the actual efficiency of the engine is still poor, so they had to leave quite a bit out just for it to run smoothly. And finally, remember these multiplayer tryouts weren't about the visuals, it was a test environment to get feedback on multiplayer elements. I remember from one of the individuals at 1up.com that when they were shown this multiplayer test, there was also a 30 second single player trailer. He described it visually as "Gears of whaaa?", meaning it's bloody insane. So don't make any final observations based on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I remember seeing something where CliffyB said if they had released Gears of War 2 months prior, it would have sucked horribly and looked like crap for the most part. We are NINE months away...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 If you've read Bungie's articles, you'd know that the high-detail scenery is slowly being added in, one level at a time. Regardless of whether these are alpha, beta, or release candidate, they were taken with a camera looking at a screen. They aren't even a good representation of the detail that IS there. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycoolkim Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Halo - lame I have never found halo any fun, unless your playing with your friend driving the jeep buggy around. GFX look terrible atm, cant wait to see final tho .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Halo - lameI have never found halo any fun, unless your playing with your friend driving the jeep buggy around. GFX look terrible atm, cant wait to see final tho .. Definitely nothing wrong with having that opinion.. But personally Halo was just an incredible experience from start to end. And unfortunately that's also the reason why Halo 2's campaign was a disappointment since Halo's was so bloody good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted February 11, 2007 Global Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2007 Many devs will tell you, and many have said so in the past, that the final graphics work and final textures etc are all tossed in towards the end of the development process, first comes gameplay changes, adding new features, and any engine work needed, then testing for bugs and networking problems, in the last 2 or maybe 4 months before release, the game gets it's final textures and all the effects, which are then also tested in the last month before it goes final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goji Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 This is the same quality of stuff released months ago guys. I'm sure "progress" has been made since then. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maash Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 Alpha is the first stage of development where gameplay is tested. beta would be where the graphical additions are made. Alpha is the first builds that means Alpha's graphics are more than 2 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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