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will sp1 for vista really make it worth switching from xp

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A10    0
Do you really need people to tell you if it's a good idea to switch or not?

The feature list is there, you've read about the pros and cons, make your own mind up.

I have. :)

Well said. If I want to run Vista I will run Vista I won't scream bloody murder because something doesn't work sure I can wait 6 to 8 months for a service pack which as far as I can tell is just a big file with patchs rolled into it.

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blade1269    86

hey.

with uac all they need to change is to put a check box for already cleared programs in either the propeties or on the box the first time you use it.

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Rohdekill    781

SP1 and the removal of an RDM infested OS then, maybe.

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CdCViRus    0

UAC :whistle: just like the one in Doom 3. UAC wanted to do so much good, improve the lives of human kind, yet UAC ****ed up so badly :p

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Brandon Live    232
A "Safe List" would be nice for UAC, I keep having to manually launch Miranda IM and Steam in Administrator mode, even though the shortcut is supposed to do it.

What would possibly compel you to run an internet-facing app like Miranda with elevated privileges???

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neufuse    4,263
What would possibly compel you to run an internet-facing app like Miranda with elevated privileges???

That's what I was wondering, why would anyone want a web facing app to run as an administrator... talk about an easy way to take over a system...

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GPS29070    0

UAC is a good thing but many people are going to turn it off... then complain about Vista when something bad happens.

Some games are certainly running slower on VISTA right now, Tomb Raider Legend is one example I am having problems with. The old Tomb Raider for DOS simply will not run in VISTA and there is no full screen DOS emulator mode for Vista. I suspect the fact I am having to use some generic drivers might be the cause of this along with the fact that Vista is a constant drain on a video card. I did discover however if I remove the wallpaper and go back to Classic Windows for Vista, the game runs faster although still slower than XP.

It does seem though once Vista is installed for a few hours and it settles down that my most commonly run programs start up much faster in Vista.

I don't blame Microsoft for the lack of Vista drivers though, these software companies knew for years what was coming and MS gave them plenty of time to develop drivers for the release of Vista. Apple and iPOD certainly knew BEFORE the release of Vista that their product wasn't going to work but did nothing about. I think Apple did this to undermine Vista and Microsoft myself.

I only bought the Vista Basic, I didn't see the need for 70 more dollars for eye candy.

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OPaul    0
What would possibly compel you to run an internet-facing app like Miranda with elevated privileges???

It's that, or it won't run at all.

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NWO_Br0THeRHo0D    0

yes because they should be waay better comp and fixed drivers and more comp hardware for it

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Kaidiir    3
UAC :whistle: just like the one in Doom 3. UAC wanted to do so much good, improve the lives of human kind, yet UAC ****ed up so badly :p

I still get a laugh out of that.

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heavensblade23    0
I did discover however if I remove the wallpaper and go back to Classic Windows for Vista, the game runs faster although still slower than XP.

That doesn't make much sense considering all the eye candy is turned off while games are running.

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thagame    0

i find nothing wrong with uac. i actually wonder why xp didnt come with it. a cool little feature though would be the ability to remember you allowed something. like a program or something that asks everytime its run you can set remember my choice and it wont ask for that anymore. kinda like on a firewall when you allow a program

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rtk    0
SP1 and the removal of an RDM infested OS then, maybe.

I think you meant RDF, but that's up to you to get out of.

To those suggesting a checkmark to remember, that's the same as the safe list suggestion, and it's a bad idea that will never be implemented.

I'm hoping by sp1 or sp2, we won't be able to turn off UAC.

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Brandon Live    232
It's that, or it won't run at all.

Umm, no. Miranda runs perfectly fine for non-admins.

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OPaul    0
Umm, no. Miranda runs perfectly fine for non-admins.

Not for me, I have multiple database files and when the database tool loads it tells me the files are already in use. The only way for me to start up is to either disable UAC or run in Admin mode.

And anyway, that really wasn't the point. The fact is there are applications that do run well with UAC. A safe list would fix this.

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Brandon Live    232

Umm, are the files in a directory you don't have access to?

And anyway, that really wasn't the point. The fact is there are applications that do run well with UAC. A safe list would fix this.

No, all that would do would be to undermine the effectiveness of UAC (by giving malicious apps an attack vector by allowing them to launch elevated apps without user consent).

It would also make it easier for people like you to run apps like Miranda with admin privileges, which is a really bad idea.

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OPaul    0
Umm, are the files in a directory you don't have access to?

No

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Brandon Live    232
No

Well that's really the only explanation for it not working. You probably have data files under Program Files or in some location where your user account (or the Users group) doesn't have access. If you don't know much about permissions and such, moving the data files to your user profile will probably help.

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embj    2

One thing that I would like to see is a better way for login scripts to be run. UAC completely messes them up...I'm still trying to figure out how to get a simple mapped network drives script working with administrative approval UAC.

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anonymous_user    0
I'm hoping by sp1 or sp2, we won't be able to turn off UAC.

why should we not be able to turn it off?

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OPaul    0
It would also make it easier for people like you to run apps like Miranda with admin privileges, which is a really bad idea.

It has never been in issue with XP.

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Brandon Live    232
why should we not be able to turn it off?

The main reason would be not only to force developers to work with non-admin accounts, but it would remove the burden of testing with UAC both on and off.

Plus it would prevent people from turning it off... which no one should be doing.

It has never been in issue with XP.

Are you trying to be funny?

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OPaul    0
Are you trying to be funny?

No, I have never once run into a problem running Miranda as an Administrator.

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Brandon Live    232
No, I have never once run into a problem running Miranda as an Administrator.

Umm, okay. That still doesn't make it safe. Not when there's absolutely no reason Miranda needs administrator privileges.

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P.M.K    18
I have not seen 1 review so far that shows games running faster in Vista then they did in XP. Which games did you find that ran faster?

Most of the games I've tried seem faster in Vista. I've played WoW, Company of Heroes, Tiger Woods 2007, NBA Live 2007 and Microsoft Flight Simulator X.

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