bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 14, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 14, 2007 BBC = Biased British Crap? :laugh: :rofl: :p I think you're a bit biased. I'm currently waiting for my store to get more Core editions in. I don't get a discount on them at work, but why wait? Because I get a discount on the protection plan and the 360 scares me enough that I wouldn't feel comfortable buying it without the protection. To say that the basic idea behind the story is crap would be rather short sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretAgentMan Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 A waste of time. :sleep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I think you're a bit biased. I'm currently waiting for my store to get more Core editions in. I don't get a discount on them at work, but why wait? Because I get a discount on the protection plan and the 360 scares me enough that I wouldn't feel comfortable buying it without the protection. To say that the basic idea behind the story is crap would be rather short sighted. damnit chris...i know you have a hdd but just get the premium...you get hd cables and wireless controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 They had 240 complains which is a very small number of the 10million+ consoles sold. Most of the units that did go wrong were consoles from the launch and this was known for ages so i really fail to see where BBC were coming from as this should have been mentioned ages ago, not when the fil rate is very very low now. Did BBC get 240 complains in a period of the entire year? Never mentions when they got the complains, Hardly worth being the first case on the show. I had my PS2 go wrong within 4days after the 1 year warranty period which i brought on launch day and sony made me pay ?55 to repair it, i then got a replacement which didnt work and then another...finally 3rd time lucky i got one that worked. I don't see how this is even worth showing on watchdog as the PS2 had problems aswell with drives burning out etc, but i forgot BBC are extremely biased to Sony, just watch the Click show to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Microsoft charged people ?80 because the consoles were out of the Warranty period, all companies would do that. But because this was on Watchdog, Microsoft have gone out of their way to provide these people with a new free Xbox360. Microsoft knew this problem way back after the console was first launched, it's become common sense that you shouldn't buy the first batch of consoles from any of the companies in case they go ######-up, but that being said, quite a lot of those consoles are working perfectly fine today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper101 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) BBC = Biased British Crap? :laugh: :rofl: :p and i second that :D :p i never liked how the bbc worked with its constant re-runs and actors leaving there studios. Now i know i live in the UK but im from canada really but iv lived here most of my life to see how biased the BBC are towards alot of things. O and to point out the Main BBC news Presenter cant say Vista Properly :p http://bink.nu/Article9505.bink << have alook for you self and laugh :D Edited February 14, 2007 by Sniper101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 They had 240 complains which is a very small number of the 10million+ consoles sold. Most of the units that did go wrong were consoles from the launch and this was known for ages so i really fail to see where BBC were coming from as this should have been mentioned ages ago, not when the fil rate is very very low now. Did BBC get 240 complains in a period of the entire year? Never mentions when they got the complains, Hardly worth being the first case on the show. I had my PS2 go wrong within 4days after the 1 year warranty period which i brought on launch day and sony made me pay ?55 to repair it, i then got a replacement which didnt work and then another...finally 3rd time lucky i got one that worked. I don't see how this is even worth showing on watchdog as the PS2 had problems aswell with drives burning out etc, but i forgot BBC are extremely biased to Sony, just watch the Click show to know that. so because a totally separate part of the BBC likes the PS3 they aren't allowed to say anything bad about the xbox360? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REM2000 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Try watching sky or any of that crap like fox news and you'll see what biased is all about. At least when watching the BBC you get to watch news from around the world. The BBC is different from a lot of other channels and has launched loads of comedies such as monty python, black adder etc. Their news articles regarding computers is usually small but then the target audience is different from gaming sites etc.. Im pleased that we have the BBC picking up shoddy companies, i have an xbox and although very good, ive also had a lot of problems with it, problems with live, problems with controllers etc. 240 may sound small but they are only based on reports given to the BBC in the UK, so comparing that 10million worldwide is a little unfair, if you want to compare the 10million shipped to people with problems visit one of the many forums and web sites outlining all of the users with problems and their xbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 BBC = Biased British Crap? laugh.gif rofl.gif tongue.gif BBC is probably most fair unbiased news channel, biased british... Look at Fox, look at CNN, all that "rub it in your face I'm American, I'm more important then everyone else" news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Try watching sky or any of that crap like fox news and you'll see what biased is all about. At least when watching the BBC you get to watch news from around the world. The BBC is different from a lot of other channels and has launched loads of comedies such as monty python, black adder etc. Their news articles regarding computers is usually small but then the target audience is different from gaming sites etc.. Im pleased that we have the BBC picking up shoddy companies, i have an xbox and although very good, ive also had a lot of problems with it, problems with live, problems with controllers etc. 240 may sound small but they are only based on reports given to the BBC in the UK, so comparing that 10million worldwide is a little unfair, if you want to compare the 10million shipped to people with problems visit one of the many forums and web sites outlining all of the users with problems and their xbox. I'm not excusing the fact the XBox360 had/has it's problems, like any other console. But the problem which was talked about in that footage is complaining about a problem from over a year ago, and they try and make Microsoft look like complete ###### when they clearly aren't. They given them a new Xbox360 for free. And so what if that guy had to pay ?80 to get his console repaired, it was out of the 12 month warranty, even though it's fustrating, technical equipment can easily go wrong, especially equipment as sophisticated as the Xbox360. And another thing, they didn't say the time period they received these complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Microsoft voluntarily provides customers with a one year manufacturer's warranty in the UK which operates over and above the legally required retailer warranty for all consumer goods. Haha no it doesn't, One year warranty is mandated by law here, and I think in mainland Europe its 2 years, but don't quote me on that. Also we have some sales act that states that something should be free of defects and issues for a reasonable time after purchase based on cost and expectation that goes beyond the one year thing. I've heard of people using that when the machine fails and having the retailer provide another one after the warranty period. The 360 is a fantastic console and <3 mine. Its depressing tho to see its name dragged down by lots of issues with the first batches, kinda puts me off ever buying a console at launch(The ps2 was the same :o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share Posted February 14, 2007 I want to see numbers, even though my first 360 was showing ROD but I still love the beast. It was the first next gen console and that's bound to happen, even after Sony released ps3 there was some problem with the system. Really? I haven't seen nor heard of any reports of any PS3s being defective. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 These are the issue with PS3's release, some were corrected later. Lack of up-scaling Overheating Backwards-compatibility As I was saying there are problems bound to happen with release of new technology, but PS3 wasn?t technically new it was one year late. Even Wii have its own share of problems the breaking the wrist cord and breaking TV?s. As I was saying after selling more than 10 million consoles if 100,000 consoles were bad than I would understand the case against MS. I don?t think that there are more than 20,000 cases and I am sure I am blowing up the number of bad console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 And so what if that guy had to pay ?80 to get his console repaired, it was out of the 12 month warranty, even though it's fustrating, technical equipment can easily go wrong, especially equipment as sophisticated as the Xbox360. the point is its a known re-occurring fault, not a wear-and-tear issue. warrenties are for wear-and-tear not known about re-occurring problems. when dell (sony)'s batteries were catching on fire, did they charge to replace them? no, why? because it was a re-occurring fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 so because a totally separate part of the BBC likes the PS3 they aren't allowed to say anything bad about the xbox360? It wasn't the fact that they like the PS3, im all for them, they can like whatever they like but saying things like the XBOX360 menu system is ugly is pretty outrageous and clearly means they are biased and singing all praises for the PS3. The PS3 menu system is straight from the PSP! how lazy is that but they didnt mention that did they. Its not just a separate part of BBC that dislikes the XBOX360, its the whole company! I would love to see PS3 on watchdog in the coming months if we ever do as that has had more problems that the XBOX360 has had but again knowing BBC they will just deflect it and won't look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Microsoft charged people ?80 because the consoles were out of the Warranty period, all companies would do that. But because this was on Watchdog, Microsoft have gone out of their way to provide these people with a new free Xbox360. Microsoft knew this problem way back after the console was first launched, it's become common sense that you shouldn't buy the first batch of consoles from any of the companies in case they go ######-up, but that being said, quite a lot of those consoles are working perfectly fine today. I think the main issue is that in the US, MS have admitted they have been more problems than expected, and are fixing or replacing console outside their warrenty for free. While here in the UK, we have to pay ?80. I understand new tech will have problems. Most consoles do when their released. But for MS to charge us in the UK, but not charge american customers for outside of warrenty repairs/replacements, is undefencable, disgusting, retarded, and there is no reason at all why it should be the case. I personally have no problems with the BBC about this issue. Yes, they could have mentioned the fact that its only a small minority of consoles have problems, but since they only covered it for 4 minutes, I think it was an ok peice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrCheese Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I think they would have a lot less hassle if the price to repair the console was less than ?80, Around ?30/40 I don't think people would have problems with. They could still offer the option to people to make sure they get there own console back repaired and charge more(i.e the current price) I think a lot of the problems MS with this is that the repaired units break over and over which is why you hear of people on there 4th or 5th 360, which also indictates to me a QA issue at the repair centre, again people wouldn't moan so much if the money they paid for repair actually did fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuttz Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Bossy Bald ######. Seriously **** the BBC. Microsoft can handle this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depl0y Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Meh, in the Netherlands MS already extended the warranty of the consoles to 2 years. I called them a couple of weeks ago because my console gave me the 3 red lights. They replaced it within a couple of days, without any hassle (returning was totally free, because UPS came to pick it up at my house). Sure, I have not been playing with the PS3 yet. But surely the Xbox 360 system works very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 14, 2007 Veteran Share Posted February 14, 2007 damnit chris...i know you have a hdd but just get the premium...you get hd cables and wireless controller. I dont like wireless controllers and I'm going to be hooking it up to my PC monitor, so since I have the hdd already, it makes no sense to get the premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanser Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 We might as well complain considering we pay alot more for products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 It wasn't the fact that they like the PS3, im all for them, they can like whatever they like but saying things like the XBOX360 menu system is ugly is pretty outrageous and clearly means they are biased and singing all praises for the PS3. The PS3 menu system is straight from the PSP! how lazy is that but they didnt mention that did they. Its not just a separate part of BBC that dislikes the XBOX360, its the whole company!I would love to see PS3 on watchdog in the coming months if we ever do as that has had more problems that the XBOX360 has had but again knowing BBC they will just deflect it and won't look into it. saying something is ugly is an opinion, that does not make them biased, and it also doesnt mean they like the ps3. secondly, since when does the ps3 or any new console have to have a new interface? the ps2 controller is the same as the ps1, why? because it works and works well, same with the psp menu and again with the ps3 being on watchdog, it isnt out here yet so they cant investigate anything because nothing has happened here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynnoj Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I dont like wireless controllers and I'm going to be hooking it up to my PC monitor, so since I have the hdd already, it makes no sense to get the premium. But you get a shiny DVD drive panel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 And a headset and HD cables! :p You can also still use the Wireless controller with your PC with the Wireless Gaming Adapter. Plus you can always sell the extra HDD and make back some of your money. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I dont like wireless controllers why? there is NO lag. I assure you on this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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