Jgamer88 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I recently found this site http://www.firefoxmyths.com which actually confronts the myths about firefox with no fanboyism. Myth - "Firefox is Faster than Internet Explorer 7" Reality - Internet Explorer 7 is clearly faster than Firefox 2.x in 4 out of 7 measures of performance. Source Myth - "Firefox and Mozilla are Not for Profit" Reality - "The Mozilla Corporation pays its employees from the revenues we receive from our product. We are very fortunate in that the search feature in Firefox is both appreciated by our users and generates revenue in the tens of millions of dollars." Source "Now, the Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit entity that develops and distributes Firefox, is forming a for-profit subsidiary that will eventually capitalize on the browser's popularity. The Mozilla Foundation will announce today that it has formed a wholly-owned subsidiary, Mozilla Corp." Source "Unlike the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, the Mozilla Corporation will be a taxable entity (that is, a for-profit rather than a non-profit)" Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyoncmdr Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Ok, for I don't know what number of time on this forum... that site is known to take only specific parts of Firefox and show why they are wrong. It is completely biased against Firefox, it does not show any good points in it. Claiming that it is otherwise is just dumb. The name of the site is FirefoxMyths, does that sound unbiased? Now on the other hand, I don't prefer firefox, but constantly linking to that site and claiming its true and unbiased just fuels the flames that the author has started, it's like assisting in Arson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted February 19, 2007 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 19, 2007 That's a really invalid site. Period. You can use what you want, I personally think FF is the best and frankly I don't care what other people say. Especially a site that is so clearly biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted February 19, 2007 MVC Share Posted February 19, 2007 Wow, been there and done that so many times before. Any one else tired of this imaginary web browser war that only fan boys seem to care about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msing Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I don't care if they're not for non-profit or if they steal every feature from Opera, I'm still going to use it. Variety in browsers is something that I like. (I have Opera, Firefox, and IE7 installed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batbeef Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Check my title, I still use Firefox though lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCobra Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I had people claiming they did not need AntiVirus and AntiSpyware applications because they were using Firefox. I remember statements like that from some on the forums here. I also remember people on here syaing that FF was not exploitable and had no security issues. It's a pitty people believe that FF is the be-all-end-all of browsers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStorm Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I don't care what people say, firefox feels right to me. Whenever i try Opera, IE7, maxathon etc I always go back to Firefox. I really do get sick of these threads. People will use whatever browser they feel comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Who cares about that? I'm using Firefox cause it perfectly suits my needs, and I wouldn't change it for any other browser... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balupton Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Ok, for I don't know what number of time on this forum... that site is known to take only specific parts of Firefox and show why they are wrong. It is completely biased against Firefox, it does not show any good points in it. Claiming that it is otherwise is just dumb. The name of the site is FirefoxMyths, does that sound unbiased? Your contradicting yourself... That's what the site is for, busting Firefox Myths which is exactly what it does and what it's purpose is. So how is that biased? By that logic, if I say something that is true and "bad", i must also say something good otherwise it's biased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLaughingMan Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 wow, ppl are still fighting over what browser is better? come on now we got other things more important to fight over like what next gen is better :laugh: j/k p.s. I think someone post about that website here last year around Oct if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Carlton Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 if it was unbiased, it would be called browser myths, and target all browsers equally. The name firefox myths implies that firefox is inherently flawed, then the myths back up that claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Til I Die Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Even if mozilla started selling firefox, it'd still be the best web browser on the web by a long shot. I wouldn't mind paying for it. Obviously I prefer free (who doesn't?), but it's worth a lot more money than some of the crap software developers manage to sell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper101 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 FACT: IE is fast due to it's built in to the Operating system :p just thought id say lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgamer88 Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 Is FF perfect? If it isnt then what is wrong on stating its imperfections? One way of improving software is to give feedback on its bugs or weakness so the developer or programmer could improve the software. But most of the replys I read leads me to believe that most of FF users are bias when it comes to another point of view. Therefore FF will never improve if no one states what needs improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgamer88 Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 if it was unbiased, it would be called browser myths, and target all browsers equally.The name firefox myths implies that firefox is inherently flawed, then the myths back up that claim. If this site was about IE7 flaws then would you support or reject it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I wouldent be suprised if this so-called Jgamer88 is the author reincarnated into yet another username. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyoncmdr Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I wouldent be suprised if this so-called Jgamer88 is the author reincarnated into yet another username.The fact that the site only takes those few myths and proves them wrong just shows that myths aren't always truthful, duh. It is biased against firefox only, and shows why any other browser can do the same thing. That site also was being promoted heavily last year by a troll who wouldn't stop for the life of him, despite many warnings and flame wars. And I think you're right Primexx.Is FF perfect?No one said Firefox was perfect, they said that it suited their needs. Most of the people on these forums have tried all of the browsers and have decided which one they like the most. The separate forums are here for the browsers to get help from others who use the browser and know it better.To say that people are not biased is utter crap. Everyone is biased, and everyone has their favorites. But trying to promote a site that has been posted on these forums before and every time has this same reaction goes nowhere. Every browser has its strengths and weaknesses. I have IE7, FF2, and Opera 9 all installed on my system, depending on what I need at the time. I prefer Opera, but I'm not going to shove it onto other people. All I ever ask of people is that they at least try it, if they don't like it then so be it. No one here will claim that Firefox is the be-all-end-all browser, because no browser can be truly perfect for everyone. If this site was about IE7 flaws then would you support or reject it? I would reject that as well. It does not matter which griggin browser it is biased against. The fact is that it is completely biased and based on rumors, not solid fact. Only facts are used to back up why the rumors are incorrect. While it sounds good in theory, so does communism, you don't see that happening everywhere do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgamer88 Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 I wouldent be suprised if this so-called Jgamer88 is the author reincarnated into yet another username. So you resort to a personal attack on my Credibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard.boy Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Once again, the article this one ripped off, without the strong bias towards Firefox. IMHO, its a much more interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyoncmdr Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Its not so much of a personal attack as it is an observation. The author of that site has made numerous accounts here that were used almost solely to promote the site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgamer88 Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 The fact that the site only takes those few myths and proves them wrong just shows that myths aren't always truthful, duh. It is biased against firefox only, and shows why any other browser can do the same thing. That site also was being promoted heavily last year by a troll who wouldn't stop for the life of him, despite many warnings and flame wars.No one said Firefox was perfect, they said that it suited their needs. Most of the people on these forums have tried all of the browsers and have decided which one they like the most. The separate forums are here for the browsers to get help from others who use the browser and know it better. To say that people are not biased is utter crap. Everyone is biased, and everyone has their favorites. But trying to promote a site that has been posted on these forums before and every time has this same reaction goes nowhere. Every browser has its strengths and weaknesses. I have IE7, FF2, and Opera 9 all installed on my system, depending on what I need at the time. I prefer Opera, but I'm not going to shove it onto other people. All I ever ask of people is that they at least try it, if they don't like it then so be it. No one here will claim that Firefox is the be-all-end-all browser, because no browser can be truly perfect for everyone. I never shoved it onto other people or forced anyone to view this, and I dont want to start a flame war, but all I am doing is presenting civil opposition to claims that firefox is best web browser ever. I can see that too many people on this forum are not going to give civil comments so I am going to stop posting in this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Guy Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I think the site was originally developed when some overly-excited FF fans promoted FF as the be-all, end-all browser and used half-truths and outright lies to promote it (eg: It's the "fastest" browser" or the "safest" browser). The site takes these claims and simply sheds some truth on them. It simply takes the bias away from the FF-crazed crowd by demonstrating the reality of their claims. Now that it's been out for awhile and everyone has seen that FF has flaws just like every other piece of software, that it is not foolproof or 100% safe, most people have come to realize that there is no "best" browser, it's all up to personal taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curme Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Not this crap again! Are people just going to annoy us until we break-down and switch to Opera? https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=firefox++myths https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=firefox++myths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doli Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 This page does not claim the Mozilla Foundation/Corporation is the originator of any of these Myths.... ... ... Myth Origins These Myths originated from various sources on the World Wide Web in news articles, Blogs, forums and on various other pages. The World Wide Web is a very large place with millions of pages and forums.... So if it was never presented on the Firefox homepage then that site is crap. I use Opera (and IE 7) because I like the features. Im sure Firefox has some of the same features but im cool with Opera for now. Use whatever browser you want, Opera, IE7, Firefox, ect... none of them are perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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