How Some 1up Editors Feel About the Elite


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Can we say Spartan is lost for words :rofl:.

Yeah the hard drive is just too expensive!!

are you freaking nuts? that's what everybody here is waiting for to start arguing about the same crap over and over, I'm just doing the forum and the mods a favor by not posting my point of view here until the dust settle down... :unsure: :no:

go get some fresh air and enjoy the view??:happy:y:yes:s:

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But, how does 10 million adopters of HD DVD help MS? I agree that it could help out in the future if developers need the space, but I don't think the 360 would fare so well if it launched with a $600 price tag. I know I wouldn't own one right now.

It's arguable either way, but if they had launched the 360 with all this built into the Premium from the start, and a year down the line reduce the price to tackle the PS3 launch I think it'd put them in a good position.

Including HD DVD in the 360 wouldn't directly help MS like Blu-Ray does for Sony. However it's another feature inside the 360 to persaude a potential buyer away from the PS3. Plus developers would benefit in the long run for games such as Blue Dragon (even if it's only for long hi-res cut scenes).

Of course 360 is all about choice and making your own console in some respects, but I just don't feel the Elite is worth the money. I'll give it sometime before I buy it (once price drops), if ever. Just my opinion.

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are you freaking nuts? that's what everybody here is waiting for to start arguing about the same crap over and over, I'm just doing the forum and the mods a favor by not posting my point of view here until the dust settle down... :unsure: :no:

go get some fresh air and enjoy the view???:happy:pp:yes:es:

Ok, could you tell me why the hard drive is expensive?

Doing a normal search for external 2.5" hard drives for the same size is much cheaper. Plus this Black colour permanent to the range or will it turn into a elite white 360 after a while?

Don't get me wrong I love the announced 360 Elite.

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it would have been ok if they would have replaced the core with the current premium and sold the elite for the same price the premium is going for right now. I don't like the way they went about it though....

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I don't really understand how they can justify the high price ($479) compaired to the PS3 which is only $20 more. Although that's for the 20GB PS3, that also includes a battery charger and a blu-ray drive, so really they ought to be bundling some of the other 360's accessories in there like the battery charger or the wireless headset. You could go to the extreme and bundle the HD-DVD drive in there.

But instead they seem to have such a large markup on the hard disk.

They could argue they are including a HDMI cable tho but that doesn't exactly cost a fortune

For everyone saying tho that they should have replaced the core with the current premium and made this the new premium, that will never happen because they would massively screw over everyone without any hard disk.

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I don't really understand how they can justify the high price ($479) compaired to the PS3 which is only $20 more. Although that's for the 20GB PS3, that also includes a battery charger and a blu-ray drive, so really they ought to be bundling some of the other 360's accessories in there like the battery charger or the wireless headset. You could go to the extreme and bundle the HD-DVD drive in there.

But instead they seem to have such a large markup on the hard disk.

They could argue they are including a HDMI cable tho but that doesn't exactly cost a fortune

For everyone saying tho that they should have replaced the core with the current premium and made this the new premium, that will never happen because they would massively screw over everyone without any hard disk.

The 20GB model and disappeared off the face of the Earth. Yet another unfair comparison.

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No matter how you look at it, 360 Elite is a mis-step. No Wifi and no HDDVD is not a good move.

And hasn't anyone else realised how badly the name sucks? :pinch: All I can think of is the Halo Elites, all like "wort, wort, wort"

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MS should've included an HD-DVD drive for like $525, and then it might be worth it, but $480 only gets you HDMI out and a 120 GB HD (and a different color). Ohhh.

Big whoop. Maybe it's like the black Macbook where it comes with a slightly bigger HD, but you pay a premium because it's black...very disappointing move by MS IMO.

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The 20GB model and disappeared off the face of the Earth. Yet another unfair comparison.

In Europe yes, In the rest of the world no. Just because some stores refuse to stock it does not mean its been officially discontinued

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Ok, could you tell me why the hard drive is expensive?

Doing a normal search for external 2.5" hard drives for the same size is much cheaper. Plus this Black colour permanent to the range or will it turn into a elite white 360 after a while?

Don't get me wrong I love the announced 360 Elite.

Hey man stop being so disrespectful towards him. Yeah the HDD price is very very annoying and ridiculous to me too, but unloading on a guy who happens to work at MS in the game division doesn't mean he's the architect of these decisions, or had any power to change them. And to expect him to come out with his own feelings on the subject (whether they are positive or negative) is unfair, MS is a job for him, not just a console manufacturer he prefers.

Trust me I've had my fair share of waving fists. I'm on my 3rd console, and it just scratched my Oblivion disc lol. When you let things start to **** you off it's just going to build and build and build (and I know it's uncontrollable sometimes), but hey.. I do hope someone at MS takes this Elite backfire (don't get me wrong, some people love it) to heart and can help smooth things over with price adjustments, or other changes.

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People who bought the core version must be ****ed.

They might be a bit happy knowing us premium owners are feeling the same "Holy crap that drive costs way too much!" anger lol.

Oh well. I'm very conservative with my HDD space, but 20GB (13-14 usable) is still short.. I really really wish they had lowered the price of the 20GB and set the 120GB around $129.99 or something..

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I have one question though. Will the current Premium (the one with the 20GB HDD) become the Core Version... at the current Core Version's price? Or will it still hold the $400 tag and just erase the current Core, and add the Elite at $479?

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I have one question though. Will the current Premium (the one with the 20GB HDD) become the Core Version... at the current Core Version's price? Or will it still hold the $400 tag and just erase the current Core, and add the Elite at $479?

all three will be produced, with the core and premium prices staying the same.

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All I want to see is people complaining again when the new prices of the 360 are revealed?On a $20 discount.bGuy 1:b> did you saw MS discounted $20 off the 360Guy 2:b> Yeah! those mofos are cheap as hell, why not $30? As far as I'm concern they can go f*ck themselves!Guy 1:b>:unsure:e: On a $35 discount.bGuy 1:b> did you saw MS discounted $35 off the 360Guy 2:b> WHAT? F*ck Bill Gates! Why can't they just drop $50 off that POSGuy 1:b>:wacko:o: On a $50 discount.bGuy 1:b> did you saw MS discounted $50 off the 360Guys 2:b> are you f*cking kidding me? $50? JUST $50???? F*ck that! I'm not buying one of those until they include a 500gb HDD, hybrid HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player and 5 HDMI ports on that sh*tGuy 1:b>:rolleyes:s: On a $75 discount.bGuy 1:b> OMG!!! did you saw MS discounted $75 off the 360Guy 2:b> I don't f*cking care now! Why on earth didn't they drop the price before? And $75? I bet my left nut those mofos were making a ton of cash out of that POS beforeGuy 1::no:o:

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^that's the business world. you'll have people complaining about your product no matter what you do with it. i wouldn't mind that $75 discount on the hard drive though :p

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Don't think MS will bother lowering the prices just yet... Afaik they only just started to make a profit per unit sold so unless they are willing to cut into that they won't just yet.

It would hurt Sony tho if MS lowered prices so hmmm

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Honestly no one can convince me that the $180 price tag of the 120 GB stand alone HD is justifiable. Absolutely no one.

For me to believe it is a fair price, I would also have to believe that if they did not include the Hard Drive, that MS would be selling this new Elite version for just $300 including the HDMI???

And the answer to that rhetorical question is No, of course they would not sell it for that cheap, so there is no way you can justify to me that price for the drive as a stand alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am 32 years old and understand very clearly that companies are in business to make money, but considering the decision to make the price so high, I feel that MS have clearly shown an absolute disrespect to current 360 owners.

So I am sorry if it offends anyone and makes the supporters sad, but this is absolutely bogus in all regards and on every level.

As I hope many here already know, I am not, nor have I ever been, a fanboy of anyone. I could care less what the name is associated with the piece of plastic and electronics I own, as long as I enjoy playing the games on said piece of plastic. However, I feel extremely neglected and disrespected just for being an early adopter, when the truth is I, along with all current 360 owners, should have been recognized and shown we were appreciated by making the upgradable HD a reasonable price.

EDIT - Whew. That was one tiring 5,800th Post.

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All I want to see is people complaining again when the new prices of the 360 are revealed…

If they don't lower the price at least $100, I will be the first one to complain (pray on it).

If they lower it $100, I will still complain because they didn't lower it sooner, and because they lowered it too late.

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I was going to throw in my two cents but Larry addressed it in the fashion I was most likely to so I won't say much else right now other than I'm right with you Larry.

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If they don't lower the price at least $100, I will be the first one to complain (pray on it).

If they lower it $100, I will still complain because they didn't lower it sooner, and because they lowered it too late.

Buy a ps3 already....jeez

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Seems MS may be feeling some heat. The need to up their product just to be able to compete for future home 'total' entertainment.

Now its 360 buyers turn to complain about an 'unfair' pricetag.

What goes around, comes around i guess.

I just see it as a + on Sony's side.

If anything, these guys should at least added WiFi, that alone would at least done it for me.

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People who bought the core version must be ****ed.

How exactly does this affect the core users :blink:

They decided that they didn't want a premium system... So obviously they wont be going for this package.

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New features and all apart (or that lack of it that is), I'm not even sure about the black facelift...and because now the price is so close to the PS3s, I can see some fance sitters going the other way...

Infact, I think I will...:/

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