Nightz Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 i don't know if this is much of an issue for most people, but i'm sure some will not like it New Xbox 360 120GB HDD comes with a lot of conditionsPosted Mar 28th 2007 12:57PM by Kevin Kelly Filed under: Culture, Microsoft Xbox 360, Business So, a much bigger Xbox 360 hard drive is a good thing, right? Well ... not when it comes with some fairly crippling conditions. Wired has the skinny on some of the small print on Microsoft's new little "Elite" storage device: * You cannot put the data from two or more 20 GB hard disks onto one 120 GB hard disk. If you attempt to move multiple drives, only the last one you move will be stored. * You can only move data from the 20GB Hard Disk to the 120 GB Hard Disk. Transferring data in the other direction, or any other combination, is not possible. * Any data stored on the 120 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted. * Any data stored on the 20 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted after it is moved over. * Once you move the data over, it cannot be placed back on the original hard disk. That first bullet point sticking out at ya, just a bit? It might rub a lot of people the wrong way, especially since Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg told everyone to buy two 20GB HDDs back when they released all of the TV and movie content, and people were worried storing everything. Zoinks. It's hard to think about people not getting just a bit cheesed about this. If you have two hard drives, that Microsoft told you to buy, and then when they finally release the new bigger drive and then tell you that you can only put one drive's worth of good on it, that's a pretty bitter pill they're asking you to swallow. We've contacted Microsoft to get some answers on how that data cable does its business. source: Joystiq wired article: Microsoft: Data From Two Xbox 360 HDDs Can't Be Combined On 120 GB DriveIn announcing the Japanese launch of the 120 GB Xbox 360 hard drive, a Microsoft Japan press release revealed some additional information about migration of content: most notably, that the data from two 20 GB drives cannot be combined onto one 120 GB drive. This wouldn't be so bad had Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg not told gamers at the launch of Xbox Video Marketplace to go out and buy two drives: At this point we?re not ready yet to roll out a bigger hard drive. I can tell you what people tell me they do to get around this. What they do is they put their Live account on a memory unit and then they have one hard drive that they put their games or related content on, and then they have another drive that they put their movies and TV on. And so if you took Microsoft's advice on this, you're apparently screwed. I've translated the pertinent part of the press release, which has a few more details about migrating content, after the jump. * You can only move data from the 20GB Hard Disk to the 120 GB Hard Disk. Transferring data in the other direction, or any other combination, is not possible. * Any data stored on the 120 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted. * Any data stored on the 20 GB hard disk will be automatically deleted after it is moved over. * You cannot put the data from two or more 20 GB hard disks onto one 120 GB hard disk. If you attempt to move multiple drives, only the last one you move will be stored. * Once you move the data over, it cannot be placed back on the original hard disk. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I just want to know if my paid for content will work after the transfer? Because after having my 360 bit the dust then getting a replacement unit all my arcade game when back to the trial versions. Will the games I have bought since then not work either after I do a transfer? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman273 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 How many people actually have 2 hard drives? I think they're using his "recommendation" to bring up an issue most people won't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexcyn Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I'm pretty sure it does some sort of disk image of the 20GB which is why you can only have one copied over since it erases the 120GB when you transfer. Also, I wouldn't see why your paid content wouldn't work, since it will be an exact copy of your previous drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 How many people actually have 2 hard drives? I think they're using his "recommendation" to bring up an issue most people won't have. QFT. Having two HDD's would seem like a hassle to me. -Spenser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Microsoft are really protective about this, incase someone tried to put the harddrive contents on another Xbox360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted March 28, 2007 Veteran Share Posted March 28, 2007 I just want to know if my paid for content will work after the transfer? Because after having my 360 bit the dust then getting a replacement unit all my arcade game when back to the trial versions. Will the games I have bought since then not work either after I do a transfer? :blink: Yes everything will still work. The data you download isn't tied to the hard drive at all, it's tied to your console. And you can always redownload anything (except maybe some old demos or something that's not available anymore). I really doubt anybody has save games on more than one drive (especially given you can't have your Live gamertag on more than one drive simultaneously), so that won't likely be a problem for anyone. The limitations are probably for security purposes, to make it harder for hackers / modders to hijack this mechanism for their purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreqFace Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 All I would want to do is take my 20GB HDD and copy all the data on to the new 120GB HDD. These 'conditions' completely allow me to do that - what's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 All I would want to do is take my 20GB HDD and copy all the data on to the new 120GB HDD. These 'conditions' completely allow me to do that - what's the problem? heh that's what I've been trying to figure out.. many people like to hack stuff like this so I guess it would make the "scene group" kind of ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian- Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) <snipped> Apparently not :p And yeah, like NegaC said, it does what it's supposed to do, takes the contents of the 20GB drive and puts it into the 120GB one, that's all I need.... Edited March 28, 2007 by John S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmarE D Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 All I would want to do is take my 20GB HDD and copy all the data on to the new 120GB HDD. These 'conditions' completely allow me to do that - what's the problem? There's no problem at all like you pointed out. These are all security related issues that people are using to make it into something it's not simply because it's Microsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathray Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I can understand why Microsoft would take these steps... copyright protection and all that endless fun. Moving data from the 120 gig back to a 20 should be allowed though if there is less that 20 gigs on the 120 gig anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted March 28, 2007 Global Moderator Share Posted March 28, 2007 This is not an issue, few people if any have a 2nd 20GB hdd, and those who will buy the 120GB will transfer over their files and then never use the 20GB again, maybe even ebay it if they can. Since the 20GB is wiped clean after the transfer, it's like a brand new HDD, I think people can get a good chunk of $$ for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyyPunk Veteran Posted March 28, 2007 Veteran Share Posted March 28, 2007 I think the biggest issue with this is how "Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg told everyone to buy two 20GB HDDs back when they released all of the TV and movie content" and now they are saying you can't pull them from both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafirex Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Humm look at this part of the article : --->>> At this point we?re not ready yet to roll out a bigger hard drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Why do these companies make such annoying restrictions? How does it really effect them if you put 3 or more save games from your other xboxes onto your Elite, Why can't you keep a backup on your old console? Don't they get it? users want choice. The Elite looks really good for new-to-xbox owners but for anyone with an older xbox360 it just looks like a bad upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Seems reasonable to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted March 28, 2007 Global Moderator Share Posted March 28, 2007 not a bad price.. considering the 20GB HDD is 99.99, an extra $80 will give you an extra 100GB... only thing that MIGHT be bad, hopefully spartan can clear this up, is putting a new HDD onto your exsisting xbox360 will require you to download all your game contents over again.. but will they work offline? i know when you keep your old HDD, and get a new Xbox360, the content doesn't work properly, due to security issues... will the samething happen? you need to call microsoft and tell them everything you have downloaded, and get rebates on your points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 not a bad price.. considering the 20GB HDD is 99.99, an extra $80 will give you an extra 100GB...only thing that MIGHT be bad, hopefully spartan can clear this up, is putting a new HDD onto your exsisting xbox360 will require you to download all your game contents over again.. but will they work offline? i know when you keep your old HDD, and get a new Xbox360, the content doesn't work properly, due to security issues... will the samething happen? you need to call microsoft and tell them everything you have downloaded, and get rebates on your points Try re-reading the thread. The 120GB drive will come with a transfer cable. No need to re-download everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted March 28, 2007 Subscriber² Share Posted March 28, 2007 Jeez, all this is saying is basically that it clones the entire drive over. Hardly a reason for that sad sony fanboy community to start bashing MS. They gave a way to UPGRADE your 20 to 120. Does the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 not a bad price.. considering the 20GB HDD is 99.99, an extra $80 will give you an extra 100GB...only thing that MIGHT be bad, hopefully spartan can clear this up, is putting a new HDD onto your exsisting xbox360 will require you to download all your game contents over again.. but will they work offline? i know when you keep your old HDD, and get a new Xbox360, the content doesn't work properly, due to security issues... will the samething happen? you need to call microsoft and tell them everything you have downloaded, and get rebates on your points when you buy stuff from the XBLMP to different licenses are issued, one to the Gamertag and another to the console (not the HDD), with the new 120gb you get a USB data transfer cable and software to "clone" your old drive into the new one, once the data transfer is over the old HDD will be wipeout. It can?t get any easier than that because all the licenses and such are seamlessly transfer to the new HDD for you to enjoy, but then again, the data stored into the new HDD will work only on the console the original licenses were issued to:happy:y:yes:s: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Diablo Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 HOW do you transfer the files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 HOW do you transfer the files? with the new 120gb you get a USB data transfer cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted March 28, 2007 Subscriber² Share Posted March 28, 2007 not a bad price.. considering the 20GB HDD is 99.99, an extra $80 will give you an extra 100GB...only thing that MIGHT be bad, hopefully spartan can clear this up, is putting a new HDD onto your exsisting xbox360 will require you to download all your game contents over again.. but will they work offline? i know when you keep your old HDD, and get a new Xbox360, the content doesn't work properly, due to security issues... will the samething happen? you need to call microsoft and tell them everything you have downloaded, and get rebates on your points The prices are atrocious off the bat full stop. I would of expected them to be cheaper - Not as cheap as 3rd party drives but definately not this expensive. Infact they should just allow 3rd party drives :rolleyes: I do agree an upgrade is needed, thats a good move, as 20GB isn't really holding up well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 only problem i have with this is all the "added preloaded content" on the 120gb hard drive will go bye bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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