Squirrelington Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 Go Perl! :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tim Dorr Veteran Posted December 30, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 30, 2002 I code most of my webscripts in PHP. I like the language, and have become accustomed to it. However, I'm not close-minded to Servlets, Perl, Python, ASP (vbscript or js), or even C apps to get the job done (actually, I've always wanted to build a mod_forum for apache :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 john smith 1924 Veteran Posted December 30, 2002 Veteran Share Posted December 30, 2002 java is slow, gay, annoying and poorly supported. Now I don't want to get in a fight here but I don't think you can back up anything you are saying. First off, it's slow only the first time you run the script because the code is compiling to a class. It only has to be compiled once. Second, I don't think Java has a sexual preference. Third, the code can be run on ANY operating system with ANY server. Last time I checked that wasn't called poor support. And if your talking about communities of Java programmers helping out other programmers then you haven't been to forums.java.sun.com. What about comp.lang.java.*? There are thousands of resources for the plethora of oportunities in the language. I just want to hear your thoughts about what exactly makes it annoying :wacko: . Thanks :happy: . Hmm - my appologies! I must say - i'm only joking- its my ignorance not arogance that is a problem here! Java always seems quite complicated- php just seems so straight forward... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 deimos Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 i like ASP and PHP. right now i mostly use ASP cause I know a lot more ASP than i do PHP, but i would like to learn more PHP though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mincer Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 ASP isnt a language.... Active Server Pages? Sure seems to be a language to meeeee :) ASP isn't a language. You don't write scripts in ASP. ASP is an application framework, the pages can be written in languages such as Visual Basic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mincer Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 java is slow, gay, annoying and poorly supported. JSP is one of the fastest active web page scripting systems out there. especialy at 'enterprise' level. Sure, you'll find that php or .NET may well be quicker to process small 'if this then that' scripts, but that really isn't what JSP is designed to do. Anyway, this discussion is really pointless as there is no answer. For a start we're comparing apples to oranges (HTML, PHP, XML are all solutions to different problems so you can't compare them). Even if you were to cut the options to .NET vs PHP vs JSP, then there is still no answer that one is _better_ than the others, they all have their place, the fact of the matter is that most people will never find themselves in the position that they need to use all the different technologies in their ideal situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CitruS Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 You are right Perl is not a web language but Hotscripts is written in Perl. Perl is faster than many others, (PHP) it's the CGI that makes it slow. Hotscripts runs a Perl script every day (or two) through shell (not cgi) to create the recreate the html pages. java is slow, gay, annoying and poorly supported. You should support your opinions with facts. Java Servlets, once compiled, are faster than Perl, PHP, Python, and many other languages. Mincer is correct. PHP is good for small websites and small forums. This forum would probably run faster if it was written in Java. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rathamon Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 ASP isnt a language.... Active Server Pages? Sure seems to be a language to meeeee :) Nope , ASP is a platform for mounting other languages , in standard ASP you can use VBScript or JavaScript as the "language" , ASP.Net will support VB , C++ and C# as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Khephren Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I use PHP for web sites for pure productivity reasons, get the results I want in the least about of time. For sheer speed I'd use Perl, but I'm a crap Perl programmer :) We use that in work to generate our web site every couple of hours and ****es over every thing else. I love Java, although I've only been using it for a month or so and that is just to write cr@p for my mobile phone. All comes down to a matter of personal choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rathamon Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 What sort of crap can you write for your phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 john smith 1924 Veteran Posted January 8, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 8, 2003 i've heard that with java you can write alot- but i dont know mainly because i dont know java + i dont have a phone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest jl7c2 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 What sort of crap can you write for your phone? Nextel (Motorola) phones have the J2ME, which enables them to run light Java applets. It's really cool :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 hareball82 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 lol seems like xml's a failure? yeah, XML is so overrated :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rathamon Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 overrated how? its application is completely different from the rest of the languages listed here, in fact PHP , ASP etc are designed to make use of XML as its a very useful data expression markup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mincer Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 overrated how? I think it's called ignorance. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BxBoy Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Go PHP! You can do all sorts of cool dynamic stuff, like my sig.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 +Fahim S. MVC Posted January 14, 2003 MVC Share Posted January 14, 2003 I prefer real programming langauges over scripting languages... so my ranking order would have to be... 1) ASP.Net - For the model. 2) Java - For giving ASP.Net something to rip and improve. 3) PHP - For being free. 4) ASP - For being Easy 5) Perl - For being everywhere HTML and XML are needed cos without them.... my apps wouldn't work..... Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Khephren Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Nextel (Motorola) phones have the J2ME, which enables them to run light Java applets. It's really cool I got the Nokia 7650. Can write anything for it in J2ME but speed is not its strongest point and most of the games are erm, poope to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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