Vista sucks for now!


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I don't know why these topics are allowed on Neowin.

Vista performs better than XP. Period. Any person which doesnt share this either has a old PC, bad drivers, and/or their configuration is awful.

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I like Vista, looks nice and if i had a better maxine I believe It would be a dream to work on it, but I dont have that machine.No jabba jabba, Period.

I guess what most ppl want its a fast Vista out of the box and some more respect for older but expensive hardware like Audigy 1/2 users. I know, its not Microsoft fault, its Creative but Ms certainly has the resources to put some pressure on these companies and It should do it...fast.

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Well, when someone like you who doesn't know what they're doing goes around and disables services, superfetch and other things, you're going to experience these types of issues. If you actually left these features on and left the swap file as default, you wouldn't notice any "choking".

Dude I have superfetch enabled. Apparently you don't play games...

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Dude I've played many games on my box with no problems. Apparently you don't understand that your experiences are not the same for other people.

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The bad gaming performance is mainly due to crappy drivers, my performance was pretty bad until I recently downloaded nvidia's latest bgeta drivers, which improved my fps alot so they are improving, although no sleep doesn't work.

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This was the case with Win2k and WinXP in the first year. Until the drivers reach a good level, you'll always run into some performence or stability issues with a new OS. And unlike going from 2k to XP, Vista has enough core changes to account for the problems driver wise.

Gaming performence being slow is probably Video card drivers, nVidia still has work to do, ATi is a bit better off with theirs so it all depends on what card you have. But there is more than just video card drivers, any driver installed could be giving you problems. It could be sound, video, or chipset. If it's anything I/O related that could be why a few people are seeing the HDD and overall performence problems. I've been through this many times on XP since 2001, when installing bad drivers i'd have performence/stability for XP hit rock bottom. Hell even now my cheap sound cards drivers like the blue screen XPSP2. Is that the OSs fault though? No, it's this poor excuse for a sound card that I have. =P

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The point i wanted to make is that Vista is built for system with 2 or more cpu cores, 2 or more GB of RAM, RAID 0 configurations. I said if you play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. for like 2 hours with the 2GB of RAM system. When you quit the game, Windows Vista will have hard time refreshing thing...and it is because all the RAM is eaten up...and that's call chocking.

Isn't it because it's an OpenGL game and that Vista emulate the render via Direct3D (it use the card if you have an ICD Driver, but they are not performant for the moment) ?

If you play DX games, you do not have such comportment...

Could be wrong but this might be linked... not a specialist, so might be wrong.

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I remember getting XP delivered from Amazon on release date, my scanner, my printer, all sorts gave problems with drivers, but it was still better than ME, I got Vista Basic for my Packard Bell, one year old laptop, as a gift, the install went easy, my printer worked without installing drivers, my scanner worked with drivers from site, the only thing that I have not got working yet is my RAZR V3, but I have a desktop with XP, so no tears there, Vista runs well on my Packard Bell, Intel CeleronM chip, 1gig ram, it is flying compared to XP, I had downloaded whatever drivers I needed prior to install, will probably install Vista on my desktop when I sort out RAZR problems. Vista Basic does all I need to do on my laptop and does it well. Jim

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vista is more stable than xp. ...
I have a Ricoh SDCARD reader ... in XP (with OUT Ricoh or Dell drivers) it works 100%. In Vista, with the "base" drivers from Vista, with the Dell Update or the MS update, I get "Semaphore" error. Explain that?

Oh wait, you can't because even Microsoft has admited to me in email, that they don't care about that error and won't rush to fix it. So now, I have to copy files from SDCARD through my PDA.

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I have a Ricoh SDCARD reader ... in XP (with OUT Ricoh or Dell drivers) it works 100%. In Vista, with the "base" drivers from Vista, with the Dell Update or the MS update, I get "Semaphore" error. Explain that?

Oh wait, you can't because even Microsoft has admited to me in email, that they don't care about that error and won't rush to fix it. So now, I have to copy files from SDCARD through my PDA.

I also have a Rocoh SD card reader, and it works out of the box on vista (dunno if dell have included the drivers or what)

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i still cant make firefox my default browser, the new default programs its a pain, i can associate html and htm to firefox but still not default browser i tried to associate by protocol http and https but theres no opcion to allow firefox.

Microsoft should seriously fix this before antitrust case come and start the suing again...

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making it the default browser allways works uve obviously chicked somewhere where it was set to ie and just need to change a setting in firefox

tools > options -> main and at the bottom click check now

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I have a Ricoh SDCARD reader ... in XP (with OUT Ricoh or Dell drivers) it works 100%. In Vista, with the "base" drivers from Vista, with the Dell Update or the MS update, I get "Semaphore" error. Explain that?

Oh wait, you can't because even Microsoft has admited to me in email, that they don't care about that error and won't rush to fix it. So now, I have to copy files from SDCARD through my PDA.

Is your system fully updated with Windows Update? :D

On June, my Windows Update has automatically downloaded this patch for SD:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936825

this should fix your problem

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making it the default browser allways works uve obviously chicked somewhere where it was set to ie and just need to change a setting in firefox

tools > options -> main and at the bottom click check now

well that didnt work because always when it open fx it appears that firefox its not the default and if i want it to be the default which i always press yes but when i close it the same thing happen again.

I google before and the whole default program thing in vista its messed up, they complicated a lot adding file extension and protocols which you can edit easily file extensions assoaciations, while protocols its not the same case as i said before i cant put another program to be the default to open http and https which vista only allows or give option to ie7 even if firefox its there

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people you dont need a powerful system to run vista but you do need a good video card and good ram to run it good,once sp1 is released vista will be awesome,it is good now,in some ways it is better than xp but in some ways it isint but it's still a new os so you gotta expect some glitches with it,i never had a problem with making firefox the main browser.

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I don't have really problems with Vista neither with XP nor I see performance difference between those two.

System Specs:

AMD 6000+, Evga 590SLI, 4GB DDR2, Xi-Fi Platinum. 2 x Raid 0.

I have to say that Windows Vista 32 simply refused to run stable on this configuration, so i installed x64 edition for like 8 months now with problem free, except that Sleep mode doesn't work. When I click Sleep Windows just locks like when you press windows key + L. Not sure what is causing this cause Nvidia Drivers are fine. It worked with the latest drivers fine and then at some point just stopped working. I use Hibernation, which works fine.

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people you dont need a powerful system to run vista but you do need a good video card and good ram to run it good,once sp1 is released vista will be awesome,it is good now,in some ways it is better than xp but in some ways it isint but it's still a new os so you gotta expect some glitches with it,i never had a problem with making firefox the main browser.

Why are you ressurecting such an old thread ? I mean most of the anti vista posts in this thread is made by peopel who haven't run vista and is spreading fud about required hardware.

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