AltecXP Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 When I first joined Neowin I had just gotten my 1st XP machine and needed a place to find out about the OS. MSN search brought me here and IExBETA. I stayed here because how fast and sccurate replies were. Now I hang round because I love thing sliek the "show your desktop" and "show your workstation" thread. I look around in all the areas, Mac, Vista, XP, Server, Networking, ect.. but i really enjoy the more relaxed areas as well. I have seen a few times where it seemed the Mods were just being WAY over edit/delete/warning happy to one persons post but not one that personaly I would have found to be more against the rules than the 1st. I kind of feel if ANYTHING should be changed its less based on "the mods mood that day" and more based on "a few mods agreed we should take this action". Other than that, there is really NO reason to complain about this site. Thats why I've stayed here for so long. I havent been back to IExBETA in yrs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Because it's more hassle than it's worth. I don't feel that I can pop over to GD or MM and just relax and chat with people. You could literally get warned for anything, especially since BangBang's decided to hand out warnings for what he considers to be "crap". There is no obvious measure of acceptability. "Ubuntu FTW!" in the wrong thread, in the wrong context gets you a warning. "I'd hit it!" now get's you a warning.Off Topic Forum at Neowin is a very very restrictive and unwelcoming place. It really is best avoided. It's far more trouble than it's worth. Nope, these days i'm here to engage in Tech Discussion, and nothing more. If you want to relax and just chat maybe you should keep it to MSN or equivalent instant messaging software. "Ubuntu FTW!" in the wrong thread, in the wrong context gets you a warning. "I'd hit it!" now get's you a warning. Good! Because they contribute nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snyper Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 If you want to relax and just chat maybe you should keep it to MSN or equivalent instant messaging software. How about we keep this discussion civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 but i really enjoy the more relaxed areas as well. People keep using the word "relax." I like relaxing too but I fail to see the connection between relaxing and posting crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 Let's be clear here, we aren't saying areas like General Discussion don't have their place and even I spoke out against ideas to remove forums like RWI, but we do have a desire to remove the useless crap that people post for the sake of, well, I don't even know why they post it. We want discussions and energy to flow through the forums, not crap. Far too often, people seem less interested in thinking and contributing and more interested in trying to completely derail a conversation or, generally, **** off others. That's what we aim to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 "Ubuntu FTW" in a discussion of another distribution is nothing but trolling and flamebaiting, but we've had this discussion before. If you can't see how that contributes absolutely nothing, at all, to the discussion, then it's hopeless. Who cares? if in reality a person says "Ubuntu FTW" in conversation people dont put marks against him. NO. people laugh and continue the conversation..which is how a forums hold be..a conversation, this isnt an edited Superbowl 1/2 time show, its peopel acting like they would w/ friends as it SHOULD be. the day saying I'd hit it, or FTW deserves a warning is the day that the site might as well close becuase its become WAY to uptight/judgemental. (obviously if thats ALL a person EVER posts then thats a different story) Posts counts should should be removed...to much enphasis is put on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Let's be clear here, we aren't saying areas like General Discussion don't have their place and even I spoke out against ideas to remove forums like RWI, but we do have a desire to remove the useless crap that people post for the sake of, well, I don't even know why they post it. I could be wrong but I think it is purely post count driven. With a section of the forums devoted to brandishing your post count it seems to make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 I kind of feel if ANYTHING should be changed its less based on "the mods mood that day" and more based on "a few mods agreed we should take this action". Whilst I disagree it's based on our mood, I think that a system similar to what you propose would mean moderation would be much slower. EDIT: However, if I have the chance and feel it is necessary, I will take a second to run by an action past another moderator before carrying it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think the mods should have a deep discussion to an approach that is more than just warnings and closing topics. Remove some sections, hide the post counts, and in the end have a poll to see what is best for the community and for mods to do their thing effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Who cares? if in reality a person says "Ubuntu FTW" in conversation people dont put marks against him. NO. people laugh and continue the conversation..which is how a forums hold be..a conversation, this isnt an edited Superbowl 1/2 time show, its peopel acting like they would w/ friends as it SHOULD be. I certainly don't laugh at those comments. They're immature, old, tired, and inappropriate. If you were in my living room having an intelligent conversation with me and you blurted out "Ubuntu for the win!" that would be the end of our conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 For example though, the "Acronyms", "Say something about the person" and related "Games" are there for no reason at all. Close them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 It amazes me that people can post just to up their post count. Does it really matter? Is your life truly so empty that you need a post count on a forum to tell you how awesome you are? I really don't get it :pinch: Either way, I think the Milestones area should be removed, to be honest. I mean, I only post there because I can, but if it was gone I certainly wouldn't mind. I don't think post counts should be removed altogether though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorpheux Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It's the reason I don't post much anymore. ^ +1 to this. I've gone through two stages (each one being many months long) of posting here everyday and generally high activity. Since a few months ago, I have declined quite a bit again. To be totally honest, I've kind of moved on to a different forum with a different posting environment. Neowin was the first large and active community that I really got into, but it certainly isn't my only one anymore. To be a bit more positive, however, it is nice to come back here and know that the quality of the average post here is higher than most forums of this size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 I certainly don't laugh at those comments. They're immature, old, tired, and inappropriate.If you were in my living room having an intelligent conversation with me and you blurted out "Ubuntu for the win!" that would be the end of our conversation. I agree, comments like that are completely out of place in an intelligent discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 Milestones are sometimes great, like for example one members were getting married, kids, school, jobs, they add a sense of community. But then again all people reply with are "Congradulations". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 well wasn't the milestone forum created because people kept posting their "OMG 1000000 posts" threads in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 Either way, I think the Milestones area should be removed Or perhaps move the Milestone focus away from post count? Some people enjoy discussing their 18th birthday or their first child there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I do have to agree that the forum content has changed much since 2001, I loved being able to ask for technical help and having instant answers. However I do enjoy having the variety, I am all for having a good balance of Tech talk and Misc. discussions. edit: forgot to mention, I do feel that there seem to be redundant sections of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 Or perhaps move the Milestone focus away from post count? Some people enjoy discussing their 18th birthday or their first child there. That is a solution as well. Either way, I don't think it should be allowed to make threads saying you've got another multiple of 1000 posts. Like I said, I do it because I can, but I wouldn't miss it if it was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev. sK Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 These threads never die.. I don't know how many threads I've seen about people saying things have "changed" rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 By the way I'm pretty happy about the amount of oldbies hanging in this thread as to the rest of the forum. Other than snyper anyways. I hope the mods will take our discussion into consideration (though there is probably another discussion similar in the hidden sections of Neowin), it would be beneficial to the overall integrity of the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 I also want to say that I personally enjoy the more general discussion very much. Neowin gives me a chance to interact with people whom with I wouldn't normally interact. It's fun, and I think it's an integral part of the board. It just seems like immaturity in general is causing problems across the board, no matter what type of topic it is. I've seen immature posts in threads ranging from processors to CSS to a new hardware build to just general discussion. I don't think non-tech discussion is the problem; I think the fact that the internet is becoming more and more accessible to a wider group of people is the problem. Immaturity is all over the internet and we are simply getting it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltecXP Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I certainly don't laugh at those comments. They're immature, old, tired, and inappropriate.If you were in my living room having an intelligent conversation with me and you blurted out "Ubuntu for the win!" that would be the end of our conversation. It obviously depends on the conversation, but if your that stressed out at home, get a new job or a hobby. I dont know anyone that takes life so serious that they cant joke around and have a good solid convo at the same time. If you think having an intelligent conversation can't involve some humor then your just to dry IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted October 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think its not strict enough! Heck most of the news comments anymore turn into an anti-america or anti-EU bash fest... politics have their place but to just randomly say something is because of a country or post a political view for no reason on an unrelated story... thats what has me fed up lately... this is a tech site, not a political site... also the fanboy-ism has goten out of control lately... a lot is being done to stop it, but some people just dont know when to stop... we try to make this place a good tech community, and everyone else wants to run it into a general community, which it is not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shof Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 if the rating on topics and profiles got removed, it can speed up neowin a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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