macfanboy Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 yup from what i hear the average torret site only goes at 20KB down. which would take 6-7 months to download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfunk4life Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 You actually think if the console was easier to pirate it wouldn't of been for the titles out so far? There are decent titles out and more coming out year of next that we know are decent."No" = "None" = "0" in this context. (Y) I hardly think there are games worth playing soon :unsure: i fixed it for you :p wanted to fit in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 both PS3 and 360 have very little in the way of "copy games". don't know how many of you spend time in asia, but if the motherlode don't have it then it doesn't exist in the realm of piracy. where's jianbing when i need him? Ahaha!! I just noticed this post. FYI I was in Beijing!! ;) Anyway, you are correct. Almost all the piracy techniques/devices originate from China. Aside from the previously stated facts of Blu-Ray/lack of games, the PS3 just isn't popular enough in China yet for the people who come up with this stuff to bother too much with it. That said, it's starting to do better there now as you can see it in most computer stores/malls, so I would expect we will start seeing some stuff for it in 2008. One thing kind of off topic, but interesting is that wherever you see PS3 there, you also see 360. Last gen it was all PS2 and the Xbox was relatively rare. I don't know if this means the 360 is doing better there or not, but at least it's in all the stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phemo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Why do people assume every game is 25/50GB? Most of them tend to be around 6GB it would seem, so depending on the method that the PS3 is eventually cracked with, it might even be possible to read the games from DVD DL. If that ever does happen then the majority of games will fit on a DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 There weren't many games for the PSP back in the day, most of them being remakes of PS2 games. And it didn't sell that much, did it? The console was pirated anyway, almost from day one. Right now with the PS3 the only motivation to mod it is running pirated games: -You can already develop homebrew for linux and it seems more interesting to eventually get better access to hardware that way. -As mentioned on the article, games are region-free so you can play imports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 ^ Ahh the "no games" bandwagon arrives in town again :pSay that in 6 months guys :rofl: Your days are now short lived :shiftyninja: How long are people going to keep saying, "Wait! The games are coming!"? It's like if a car company released the car but said you had to wait a year for the wheels. Didn't they know they were releasing a console, and that you play GAMES on a console? Probably as long as people keep saying a console that's been out for over a year is just a fad and a gimmick... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted December 24, 2007 Veteran Share Posted December 24, 2007 How long are people going to keep saying, "Wait! The games are coming!"? It's like if a car company released the car but said you had to wait a year for the wheels. Didn't they know they were releasing a console, and that you play GAMES on a console?Probably as long as people keep saying a console that's been out for over a year is just a fad and a gimmick... ;) The question is how long people are going to keep saying there are no games? Because there are plenty of games out there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman273 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 The question is how long people are going to keep saying there are no games? Because there are plenty of games out there right now. It's not a question of how many games. I'm fairly positive that when a person says "no games" here they really mean there are few games worth playing when comparing it to other options in the market. If you want to argue semantics about no games meaning 0, then you're missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Horizons Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I love how this article claims that the Wii, 360, and others all have "fallen victim to heavy piracy" but doesn't have any sources or statistics to back it up. Is this just some random guy's blog? Anyway, on to the points. #1 would apply to the 360 too. #2 What percentages of people hack their console only to circumvent region protection? I doubt it's a majority. #3 Most of the games aren't even close to using the full BD capacity so that's a non-issue at this point. #4 I didn't think the 360 updates are incremental because I only downloaded one when I got mine, but even if they are, the author is wrong about it having anything to do with piracy. Oh, and I don't consider modchips for the Wii a "simple" solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted December 24, 2007 Veteran Share Posted December 24, 2007 It's not a question of how many games. I'm fairly positive that when a person says "no games" here they really mean there are few games worth playing when comparing it to other options in the market. If you want to argue semantics about no games meaning 0, then you're missing the point. I know what people mean. I can say the same thing about the 360 and the PSP, I haven't got 360 yet because there is no game I want to play on the console just one, Blue Dragon but I'm not going to get one right now for only that game. The thing is that people keep coming to this forum (most of the time the same people) and keep posting the same no game thing over and over again and after a year is getting really old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDQuiksilver Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yep - the "no games" debate is more than dead... and rightfully so. Everybody has different tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+StevoFC MVC Posted December 24, 2007 MVC Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yep - the "no games" debate is more than dead... and rightfully so. Everybody has different tastes. I think for the most part people say there are no games because they already own atleast 1 other console. I know in my case I own a 360 and just about any game I would want comes out for the 360 or both the 360 and the ps3. Regardless, I think I will be picking up a ps3 in the near future so that I have a Blu Ray player since I already have an HD DVD player. And then any exclusives for the ps3, as they become available, I can pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 (edited) Sigh, opinion is not fact. Now, if only Sony could make the PSP as secure as the PS3 (concerning piracy)... Edited December 24, 2007 by AlphaPrime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 I agree entirely, the "no games for PS3" debate is dying if not already dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konstanov Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 yup from what i hear the average torret site only goes at 20KB down. which would take 6-7 months to download I've downloaded torrents at my full speed of 1.7 mBps, faster than most dedicated HTTP servers give me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Wow thread resurrection !!! (not that old anyway) I know what people mean.I can say the same thing about the 360 and the PSP, I haven't got 360 yet because there is no game I want to play on the console just one, Blue Dragon but I'm not going to get one right now for only that game. The thing is that people keep coming to this forum (most of the time the same people) and keep posting the same no game thing over and over again and after a year is getting really old. The people that you are referring to are banned (IMHO the bans are not fair but I will leave it to the staff to ponder over) from posting here for some time now. So let me represent them for now. There are "no games" means compared to other platforms, there are hardly any games worth playing and hence the piracy is low. That was discussed for first few pages of this thread. /case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted December 25, 2007 Author Subscriber² Share Posted December 25, 2007 Wow thread resurrection !!! (not that old anyway)The people that you are referring to are banned (IMHO the bans are not fair but I will leave it to the staff to ponder over) from posting here for some time now. So let me represent them for now. There are "no games" means compared to other platforms, there are hardly any games worth playing and hence the piracy is low. That was discussed for first few pages of this thread. /case closed. So you think the GH was fine the way it was before action was taken? In regards to the whole topic, the no games issue is down to personal taste. No ones going to disagree the PS3 lineup is poor in the sense that it lacks big system exclusive sellers (minus a few recent titles), but you're going to get friction with comments such as "no games" from those sitting playing and enjoying titles - If you're as blunt as just coming into the topic and going "no games, kthxbye". I'd argue some who were coming in and posting "no games" were just doing it to try and work others up who own a PS3... Others may have just been stating how they feel... who knows? One thing to point out though, this topic was made a few months back, and that was when the GH was pretty bad - You couldn't say anything without it being under scrutiny 24/7, and a lot of comments were being posted to annoy/work up others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 (edited) I usually only visit the Sony Gaming section and I have noticed that our discussions are significantly better and there aren't any huge flame wars (X360 vs. PS3). About the lack of games, I disagree entirely. Theres alot of brilliant games to choose from, to be honest, when the X360 originally came out, it was no different, people complained about the lack of games too. Look at the X360 now... :yes: Edited December 25, 2007 by Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNay Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 3. Blu-Ray Despite the whole next-gen format war, Blu-ray has served Sony on multiple fronts. First of all, touting a size limit of around 50gb for a dual layer BD-ROM. Very few sane people would go through the trouble of downloading or uploading such a large ISO file. Also, Blu-Ray disc burners are still out of the price range of the mass market. I don't agree with that point, burners are now $200-300 which isn't bad, and only a few ps3 games are 25GB+ most are around 3-8GB and i've seen the ISO's floating around. The only way piracy will work on the ps3 is by custom firmware, i'll agree with that point ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerhkjp Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 I usually only visit the Sony Gaming section and I have noticed that our discussions are significantly better and there aren't any huge flame wars (X360 vs. PS3). I agree. It sure is peaceful around here these days :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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