RazerBack Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 What's so good about this file format? And why doesn't Neowin allow it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Winston Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 it allows 32 bit alpha transparency at a high level quality with a very small fil size.. and neowin lets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 JT01 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 They are lossless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BxBoy Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 It combines the best of both GIF(transparency) and JPG (24-bit). Look at my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 robinmthomas Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 If a picture is compressed, isn't that by definition a loss format. The big reason is the transparency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ToastGodSupreme Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 it pwns j00!!!!1 :ninja: haha, but seriously, look at the replies above mine, good points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 digital.death Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 If a picture is compressed, isn't that by definition a loss format.The big reason is the transparency No, JPEGs use lossy compression (picture quality is lost), while (24bit) PNGs are exactly the same as the source picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Angel Blue01 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 If a picture is compressed, isn't that by definition a loss format. No! Does the zip/rar format loss data? No! I don't know how it works, but it is lossless, and supports more colors than the eye can see! PNG was designed by the W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) to replace the GIF (inventeed by Compuserve, with royalites by programs that can write them), except that browser support isn't that great. But it doesn't support animation. (A varient known as MNG does. But its rare, and only Mozilla supports it natively.) PNG is my format of choice for saved images I've scanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 caerma Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 MSIE doesn't support it . . . :angry: What are they waiting for . . . :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 QuarterSwede Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 I have to say, PNG is my favorite picture format for the reasons said above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 thingsforjason Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 PNG is easier to pronounce. JPG/JPEG...that's kind hard to say. and GIF. people don't know how to pronounce it. it's either "jiff" or "giff" when you say it. but PNG....there's pretty much only one way to say it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 JaredVolkl Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 MSIE doesn't support it . . . :angry: What are they waiting for . . . :angry: Who cares, Phoenix (Mozilla) is so much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 RazerBack Posted January 16, 2003 Author Share Posted January 16, 2003 Thanks for the replys, I assume there might be some more. But under the signature guidelines As for content considered inappropriate: Too large, or file size exceeds recommended size NO PNG's please Or is that outdated rule, some sigs in this thread are PNGs. If I converted all my JPGs to PNG would I loose anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ..... Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 it would be pointless to do so, thats like converting a 128k mp3 to a 256k mp3 :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Cody Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 and GIF. people don't know how to pronounce it. it's either "jiff" or "giff" when you say it. what is the right way to say it? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sdkaneda Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 jiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sdkaneda Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngfaq.html here's a good resource that answers most questions people are bound to have about PNG graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Cody Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 jiff. lol, good thats what i have said all my life and im glad im not wrong :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 +BudMan MVC Posted January 16, 2003 MVC Share Posted January 16, 2003 MSIE doesn't support it . . . :angry: What are they waiting for . . . :angry: IE does support PNG - maybe not to the full extent you would like. But a PNG file will be displayed in IE, you may not get the EXACT picture/quality the author of the picture intended. But then again - this is always highly unlikely anyway, since most people are running at very low color depths and resolutions. Then if you take into account the different monitors, etc.. I highly doubt that the MAJORITY of people are seeing any picture format in its true form. But you will get a picture, so you need to reword your complaint. If you added "FULL" support of the format and all of its power, then you would be correct :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bluerei Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 GIF: Graphics Interchange Format It's pronounced "giff" with a hard G because of the word "graphics" You don't go around saying "Jraphics" do you? :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 autodefe Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 png rules. linux uses it :cool: i'm waiting for IE to add real support :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 chris_rv Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 If the creator/s of the format would be believed, they intended GIF to be read as jif. Some sites which claim jif is the "correct" pronunciation follow: "How to Pronounce GIF and Linux", http://www.skizzers.org/andy/stuff/gif/gif.html "The GIF Pronounciation page", http://www.holt.org/pronounce.html I find the view expressed by a "Erik J. Macki" on "The GIF Pronounciation page" a rather logical explanation. Granted this would not bring a definitive end to the debate, I am just inclined to accept what the creator/s says is the way to pronounce it. Anyway, to each his own I say. "gif" or "jif", it depends on your take on the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Cody Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 "The GIF Pronounciation page", http://www.holt.org/pronounce.html they have some funny letters there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 caerma Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 MSIE doesn't support it . . . :angry: What are they waiting for . . . :angry: IE does support PNG - maybe not to the full extent you would like. But a PNG file will be displayed in IE, you may not get the EXACT picture/quality the author of the picture intended. But then again - this is always highly unlikely anyway, since most people are running at very low color depths and resolutions. Then if you take into account the different monitors, etc.. I highly doubt that the MAJORITY of people are seeing any picture format in its true form. But you will get a picture, so you need to reword your complaint. If you added "FULL" support of the format and all of its power, then you would be correct :) Can't edit my post. You are right. FULL support of the format and all of its power, exactly valid point, thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tim Dorr Veteran Posted January 16, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2003 it would be pointless to do so, thats like converting a 128k mp3 to a 256k mp3 :rolleyes: No, it wouldn't be useless. You'd be supporting a new, open, superior format WITHOUT LOSING A THING. Since PNG is lossless, the image quality of the PNG will be as good as the JPG was. No less :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 techquilla Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 i only use pngs for docks.......^^ jpg works fine on all other stuffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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