Cormier6083 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Please, just let the rumors die in a flame of jealousy. If you want to play MGS4, get a PS3. That simple. Jesus Christ. Not every good game is going to be on the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreqFace Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) In going multiplatform you also increase development costs/man hours/work load, so it's all a game of balance - If you release a port, and it doesn't sell well, will that really of been worth it? It's clear when making a MGS game Hideo/Konami like to put 110% into one development platform instead of multitasking between two and going for a multi-release game - Never before has MGS (1/2) been released on multiple platforms at the same time. PC/Gamecube/360 came later. Of course, but I think that if they made a 360 version it would be completely worth it, a sound investment. The benefits would, in my opinion, outweigh the cons (as you say, extra costs, man hours etc.). And as far as I know, the 360 is relatively easy to develop for, which further makes this a good investment. Also, you have to remember, the PS2 had the overwhelming majority of the market share, so there was simply no need for 3rd party devs to make their games multi-platform. Why bother? Obviously, this is not the case anymore with the current generation. I'm not saying the PS3 is a failure, that'd be silly - it isn't, but this time around MS and their console can't be ignored. No doubt MGS would sell very well on 360 (it is Metal Gear Solid, after all), just as it will with PS3, so it just makes complete sense to me for Konami to do this. Like you say, in previous iterations of the series, the games have gone multi-platform later. What's to say this won't happen with MGS 4? Never say never. Like I said though, I personally don't care, but I thought people would have learned by now that surprising things can happen in the industry, regardless of what the devs\publishers\Sony say. (GTA 4 on 360, for example). Edited January 10, 2008 by Joey McJoeface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 10, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 10, 2008 Of course, but I think that if they made a 360 version it would be completely worth it, a sound investment. The benefits would, in my opinion, outweigh the cons (as you say, extra costs, man hours etc.). And as far as I know, the 360 is relatively easy to develop for, which further makes this a good investment.Also, you have to remember, the PS2 had the overwhelming majority of the market share, so there was simply no need for 3rd party devs to make their games multi-platform. Why bother? Obviously, this is not the case anymore with the current generation. I'm not saying the PS3 is a failure, that'd be silly - it isn't, but this time around MS and their console can't be ignored. No doubt MGS would sell very well on 360 (it is Metal Gear Solid, after all), just as it will with PS3, so it just makes complete sense to me for Konami to do this. Like you say, in previous iterations of the series, the games have gone multi-platform later. What's to say this won't happen with MGS 4? Never say never. Like I said though, I personally don't care, but I thought people would have learned by now that surprising things can happen in the industry, regardless of what the devs\publishers\Sony say. (GTA 4 on 360, for example). Lets say, the 360 does get a port, it's not going to be a booming investment either way IMO. I believe, as many others do, the majority of sales would come for the PS3 MGS4, regardless of current installment base on each consoles. The reason for this, is there is no way a MGS4 360 port would hit < 1year. So you'd probably see another PS3 price drop, not to mention the PS3's library have/begin to have filled up with more AAA titles, before MGS4 360 would hit. Basically what im saying is when MGS4 for the 360 would hit, the PS3 would be in a faaar better position than it is just now, and thats why I think we would see history repear itself in terms of MGS selling poorly on xbox (MGS2). And that's also the reason I think it's quite daft to say "look how the PS3 is doing just now!" - As Konami know it will improve, and so do level headed gamers - We don't know by how much, but that's the exciting part :p But who knows... MGS online has to play a part in all this, this time around as well. I still firmly believe it's an exclusive in Sony's eyes, Hideo's eyes and Konami's eyes. The only thing that could change is later down the line Konami change their stance, but I do believe right now they don't have plans for a 360 copy, and there is no "secret 360 build" being worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firen Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Who cares? Alot of people don't even want to bother with snakes last journey since MGS2 and MGS3 sucked so badly. Konami are a great developer and all, but MGS's ship has long ago sailed. SC Conviction looks a better game. I know alot of fans are going to disagree with me and thats fine.... MGS3 was far superior to MGS2. It had a much better story, it felt more engaging and this time around the characters felt more real! Personally I think, MGS2 this will eventually make its way onto the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Good :) I dont know how many times Sony and Kojima have to clear up these rumors. Let it go people :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDQuiksilver Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 lol, yeah that's what it is. I've never played a MGS in my life and couldn't care less about the new one. Konami don't care about your beloved console (honestly, what a childish remark). I'll tell you what they care about: money. Lots and lots of it. And if they want lots and lots of money, they will bring it to 360 in some form. Seriously, if they don't, they are literally throwing money away. By that theory, couldn't the same thing be said for every single game ever developed then? "If they wanted lots and lots of money" then they should release it on every console? Doesn't always necessarily work that way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhorse Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 By that theory, couldn't the same thing be said for every single game ever developed then? "If they wanted lots and lots of money" then they should release it on every console? Doesn't always necessarily work that way though. Yeah only in theory. With PS3 hard to develop, low attach rate and number of units sold much less than 360, it might not be worth it for some studios to invest resources into the porting. While in this case, its the complete opposite. So Konami is just losing money for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreqFace Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Yeah only in theory. With PS3 hard to develop, low attach rate and number of units sold much less than 360, it might not be worth it for some studios to invest resources into the porting.While in this case, its the complete opposite. So Konami is just losing money for no good reason. Thank you! This is exactly the point I'm trying to get across. I believe the attach rate for the Wii is actually double the PS3 last time I checked (and the 360 is even higher, go figure) Yes, the PS3 figures will improve, but so will the 360! And from past games we can see it would be worthwhile, even for Japanese stupios (Lost Planet, for example, sold surprisingly well). Whether or not it does come to 360, this statement is true. I'm gonna bookmark this topic for future reference :shifty: Edited January 10, 2008 by Joey McJoeface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Well, PS3 sales could easily explode given the right circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Why do you own a 360 then :p The 360 is getting more and more backing from Japanese developers as time goes on, and the PS3 has crap for games right now period (maybe 2 must own titles and 3-5 good titles whereas the 360 is probably more near 7-10 must own titles and 12-25 good titles - these numbers are really guesses, but Im just trying to make a point rather than actually show you data). And people do like to switch up their experience once in a while with new/different games in their library. Hype is going to kill this game, just like its going to kill Killzone 2 (which will probably be sub-par anyways). Hype had a major blow to PS3, since a few things were just left out of the game that were mentioned by Bungie (broadcast customs...). Not only that, but the story wasn't quite as epic nor were the multiplayer maps all that great. It was a pretty big letdown to realize that after Halo 2's huge library of playlists and maps, Halo 3 felt confined and inadequate. Anyways, I am a Halo 3 fan, simply because I don't let hype get to me. The people who let hype get to them are the ones who switch from Halo 3 to CoD4 right on release of the new game, and then do the same for the next big game. Thank you! This is exactly the point I'm trying to get across. I believe the attach rate for the Wii is actually double the PS3 last time I checked (and the 360 is even higher, go figure) Yes, the PS3 figures will improve, but so will the 360! And from past games we can see it would be worthwhile, even for Japanese stupios (Lost Planet, for example, sold surprisingly well).Whether or not it does come to 360, this statement is true. I'm gonna bookmark this topic for future reference :shifty: The attach rate for the Wii in the store of one of my friends is almost nill. He says he sells almost all his Wii's and then gets almost all of them back within 2-5 weeks of the sale, only to resell them and repeat the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex566 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 The 360 is getting more and more backing from Japanese developers as time goes on, and the PS3 has crap for games right now period (maybe 2 must own titles and 3-5 good titles whereas the 360 is probably more near 7-10 must own titles and 12-25 good titles - these numbers are really guesses, but Im just trying to make a point rather than actually show you data). And people do like to switch up their experience once in a while with new/different games in their library.Hype is going to kill this game, just like its going to kill Killzone 2 (which will probably be sub-par anyways). Hype had a major blow to PS3, since a few things were just left out of the game that were mentioned by Bungie (broadcast customs...). Not only that, but the story wasn't quite as epic nor were the multiplayer maps all that great. It was a pretty big letdown to realize that after Halo 2's huge library of playlists and maps, Halo 3 felt confined and inadequate. Anyways, I am a Halo 3 fan, simply because I don't let hype get to me. The people who let hype get to them are the ones who switch from Halo 3 to CoD4 right on release of the new game, and then do the same for the next big game. The attach rate for the Wii in the store of one of my friends is almost nill. He says he sells almost all his Wii's and then gets almost all of them back within 2-5 weeks of the sale, only to resell them and repeat the experience. That quote was made about the fact he stated he loved Japanese games. The PS3 will no doubt over time have a lot more Japanese games then the 360 which so far has a poor showing of these. Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey spring to mind as two of the more well known ones. I am not here to debate the fact the 360 at the moment does have better games. Well seeing as I also own a PC there is not one single game out in the UK I would want to play that I can not play on my PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDQuiksilver Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Well, PS3 sales could easily explode given the right circumstances. Blu-ray and 2008 titles? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosslover Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Blu-ray and 2008 titles? ;) It's funny most people who own a ps3 do end up getting blu-ray movies they otherwise wouldn't have got if the ps3 didn't include it. However, I personally don't think blu-ray will help the ps3 explode in sales. Most people that I know and I've seen get a ps3 don't purchase it for the blu-ray, they do it for the games. Games are what sells the systems and blu-ray helps maintain it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Certain exclusives, price, other features etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 11, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 11, 2008 Guys we all forgot about snake using sixaxis in-game! http://playstation3.gamingmedia.de/uploads...5/pic-13075.jpg Wonder if he'll have a DS3 for release? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Guys we all forgot about snake using sixaxis in-game!http://playstation3.gamingmedia.de/uploads...5/pic-13075.jpg Wonder if he'll have a DS3 for release? :laugh: On another note, theres little references to the Cell processor in the game. I'm sure Microsoft wouldn't like that, which although sounds silly is another reason to believe this is PS3 is exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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