+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 14, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted January 14, 2008 Got an email tonight from someone who has sent in dozens of tips in the last couple of months. I usually blow them off as meh since some of them seem so far fetched like the XBox 360 with HD-DVD (lol, dead in the womb). Anyway, the source sent me the above picture with information that puts the above interface in our hands before January is over.What do you think? Believable or should we stick to serving PS3 Gamercards than following crazy rumors? ;) Source: http://www.tripletags.com/post.asp?id=283 Before the end of January would be nice, but I dunno.... I expected annoucements about this/Home at GDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted January 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2008 Taking their sweet ass time, that's for sure :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 14, 2008 Taking their sweet ass time, that's for sure :no: It's been a pain waiting, but everything is going to be geling together very soon (next few months, I expect a lot at GDC) for the PS3 (Y) Once this hits, and we can use a lot of features Live charges you for, I hope this can force MS to re-evaluate their business proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRanger13 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I can't wait till this feature is done. I wonder if it will work in PS1 and PS2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keito Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Honestly; I don't know what all the fuss is about... In-game XMB Sure it's a nice addition, but all I want/need is a unified messaging/inviting system, that's all. I have no need for custom soundtracks, let alone stand anything else that's in the XMB :\ I'd rather have Sony optimizing the OS, giving it a smaller memory footprint (which is an issue with in-game XMB anyhow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted January 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2008 Once this hits, and we can use a lot of features Live charges you for, I hope this can force MS to re-evaluate their business proposal. I hope so too! (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianwoollam Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Wish they would hurry up about it :p But it will be well worth it in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 the only reason I wish there were in game XMB is the friends list and mp3 playback, I don't think about it while in game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 It's been a pain waiting, but everything is going to be geling together very soon (next few months, I expect a lot at GDC) for the PS3 (Y) Once this hits, and we can use a lot of features Live charges you for, I hope this can force MS to re-evaluate their business proposal. Live charges only for online gaming/matchmaking. Everything else is available for Live silver anyway. Is in-game XMB bringing unified friends list, messaging and custom soundtrack features as well? How will "older" games support unified friends list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 14, 2008 (edited) Live charges only for online gaming/matchmaking. Everything else is available for Live silver anyway. Is in-game XMB bringing unified friends list, messaging and custom soundtrack features as well? How will "older" games support unified friends list? Yeah but you use friend lists/messaging for online gaming - Hence in effect Live charges you to get use out of these functions. Silver users may have them, but they won't use them anywhere near as much as Gold users. How often do you really need to message someone when your playing an offline single player game? It's when your online playing a game, and want someone to join you, or want to tell someone something. In-game XMB will just be like an overlay on top of the game like it is with Live. In terms of support games could be patched? I dunno... a lot of games will be going for Home integration anyway, so I can see them getting some sorta update (Stuff like Resistance/Warhawk that's been out for a while) The thing I also want to see is dedicated servers in more games, Resistance/Warhawk and UT3 have them, and im sure other big titles like MGO/Killzone 2 will have them - Developers seem to be actually using PS3's in server farms. Although something like UT3 can use PC's for dedicated PS3 servers. If we start seeing more of that as well, and the platform is free, it will hopefully drive MS to changes again. Note: I'm not attacking Live, so get off any high horse you might be about to confront me on - I'll just be happy to see PSN/Home get attention/meet expectations, as if they do, it really will cause discussion in regards to paying and not paying in a subscription based method (as we know Sony will still get revenue from micro-transactions/advertising) I come from a stand point where I think we shouldn't pay to pay online, unless the game is a MMORPG where you really do get a TON of new content to justify costs - A map pack/new car every 2 months doesn't compare to the amount of content added to WoW for example. Platforms like Steam are completely free to use, and use adverts for revenue I presume. Coming from a PC background has given me a lot of my feelings on online gaming - And I think no matter how "good" the service, it should still be free to play online, revenue should come from advertising/micro-transactions or other methods. If you're going to offer a subscription based service, make online gaming free for everyone, but give those who subscribe other perks such as no adversiting, or % off XBLA games, ect. Edited January 14, 2008 by Audioboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 (edited) Yeah but you use friend lists/messaging for online gaming - Hence in effect Live charges you to get use out of these functions.How often do you really need to message someone when your playing an offline single player game? It's when your online playing a game, and want someone to join you, or want to tell someone something. In-game XMB will just be like an overlay on top of the game like it is with Live. In terms of support games could be patched? I dunno... a lot of games will be going for Home integration anyway, so I can see them getting some sorta update (Stuff like Resistance/Warhawk that's been out for a while) Kinda true but fact remains that the features are free and not dependent on someone having to pay for it. I think I might be in small minority but I use the Windows Live integration a lot or use the voice chatting feature when me or friends are out of cell phone minutes. :p Abut the in-game XMB thing, I guess it would be good if they can patch older games and provide support for these features. It should have been from the start IMO. But better late than never. Err :p you edited your message again. The point that I have with dedicated servers argument is 1. I hardly had any problems with P2P system that Live has now. 2. With dedicated servers you are at the mercy of the hosts. If MS or Sony or whoever stops hosting servers for a particular game, players are screwed. I think EA does something like that with Madden? 3. And while I agree that FREE is always good, the cost of Live is not very steep. $5 a month is hardly anything for an excellent system that is Live. And about Home, I have my doubts. But I guess we need to wait for it to show up before making any calls on it. Edited January 14, 2008 by dhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I dont want in game xmb. I dont know why everyone wants this feature. pretty useless IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 14, 2008 Kinda true but fact remains that the features are free and not dependent on someone having to pay for it. I think I might be in small minority but I use the Windows Live integration a lot or use the voice chatting feature when me or friends are out of cell phone minutes. :p Abut the in-game XMB thing, I guess it would be good if they can patch older games and provide support for these features. It should have been from the start IMO. But better late than never. Err :p you edited your message again. The point that I have with dedicated servers argument is 1. I hardly had any problems with P2P system that Live has now. 2. With dedicated servers you are at the mercy of the hosts. If MS or Sony or whoever stops hosting servers for a particular game, players are screwed. I think EA does something like that with Madden? 3. And while I agree that FREE is always good, the cost of Live is not very steep. $5 a month is hardly anything for an excellent system that is Live. And about Home, I have my doubts. But I guess we need to wait for it to show up before making any calls on it. To tackle the dedicated servers point, the benefits far outweigh any minuses. I'm not saying ditch P2P hosting, im saying supplement it WITH dedicated servers. Popular game servers don't get killed off quickly, and even when they do you still have P2P to fall back on. My need for dedicated servers for more games, comes through seeing things like TF2 absolutely BOMB on each console. No wonder they limited it to 16 people max on servers, an 8vs8 player match is laggy as hell (if you can even get that many people online at once). Of course not, the cost for Live isn't steep, it's just the moral of paying to pay online that gets me. When it's something I do elsewhere it starts to get the cog wheels in my brain going. If every platform charged to play online just now, I wouldn't feel exactly like this - And I'd be out of a lot more money than I am now :p Everyone, and I mean everyone has doubts on Home, mainly down to how secretive Sony have been - Ok they have told us what it will do, but we haven't seen much proof other than some very basic leaks by Home beta testers. Thats why they HAVE to have an information/media blowout at something like GDC - They do that, then even if we need to wait till March/April for release (GDC is feb), people will have a lot more confidence instilled in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I dont want in game xmb. I dont know why everyone wants this feature. pretty useless IMHO. Well have you played on Live? Seen how the unified friends list etc. work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted January 14, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted January 14, 2008 Here is another picture, If these are real, then we could be getting in-game XMB sooner rather than later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted January 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2008 Looks interesting to say the least, hopefully will come soon. People are trying to be smart and point out that there is no Playstation network icon, but I don't see the point of one while your in game. :s And also apparently the rumours are that the image/photo icon will let you take screenshots but its currently crashing the PS3 during cutscenes and such like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Well have you played on Live? Seen how the unified friends list etc. work? Yes. I have a 360. I just find no need to play my own music or check messages while playing a game. I can do all that when I am done playing. :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I dont want in game xmb. I dont know why everyone wants this feature. pretty useless IMHO. i'm guessing you've never want to send a message while your playing a game so you could play a friend? thats the only reason I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightz Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 sony says the images are fake :/ Sony has told CVG that yesterday's images of the high-anticipated in-game XMB we're indeed fake.And so our fears of it being the work of a sad, lonely soul with nothing better to do with their worthless lives than screw with the hearts of others have been realised. "The XMB images are fake," Sony told us, adding: "There are no firmware updates planned for January." Damn those faker makers. We hope their dirty, Photoshop-forging PC explodes and they're forced to continue their virtual social lives in internet cafes with the tourists and homeless people. For now, you'll just have to stick with Sony's previous confirmation of the feature to come in 2008. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=179515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreqFace Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Sure it's a nice addition, but all I want/need is a unified messaging/inviting system, that's all. I have no need for custom soundtracks, let alone stand anything else that's in the XMB :\I'd rather have Sony optimizing the OS, giving it a smaller memory footprint (which is an issue with in-game XMB anyhow) Sure, because the world revolves around you. Lots of people want all these features else Sony wouldn't wouldn't be implementing them. It isn't just what you want, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keito Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Sure, because the world revolves around you. Lots of people want all these features else Sony wouldn't wouldn't be implementing them. It isn't just what you want, I'm afraid.No need to get hostile. I'm just expressing my opinion - I'm not saying Sony is doing something wrong or anything like that, I'm just saying that I would focus on other things because I do not see a significant added value in features other than a unified friends list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 no updates planned for January, means February at the earliest. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morficus Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 "The XMB images are fake," Sony told us, adding: "There are no firmware updates planned for January." No update for January O.o but...but.. why? I always looked forward to the monthly updates. Also.. as of fw 2.0 I thought they said they had planed to realase a lot of update this year. Well, maye Sony really IS going to give us in-game XMB and the whole "this is a fake" is just to surpise us, right? (again... me and the dreams :p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olemus Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Sony already said they are going to do it, i think this press release its just saying its not been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 ...Once this hits, and we can use a lot of features Live charges you for, I hope this can force MS to re-evaluate their business proposal. Why would they? Xbox Live works extremely well how it currently is, not to mention it is very successful too. It is more likely PSN will become a subscription service, then Live becoming reduced in price or even completely free in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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