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[official] Next Generation HD Format General Discussion

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ctebah    3,161

a couple more news from the HD world:

TDK to Discontinue HD DVD Recordable Media?

We read over at Warren Communications News that Imation will discontinue HD DVD media for their TDK brand. This will effectively make TDK Blu-ray exclusive.

While recordable media has not played much of a role in the USA, in Japan most of the ?players? sold are also recorders.

ICv2 has learned that ADV Films has chosen the Blu-ray high definition format and plans to begin releasing high def versions of some titles as early as this spring. A hghly placed source at the company told us that "frontlist is more important than catalogue right now," so the first high def releases will be the company's newest titles. The move to begin releasing Blu-ray versions of some new titles may have an impact on ADV's release schedule, as high def transfers will have to be prepared.

High definition is at a turning point, with Warner Bros.' recent decision to support Blu-ray exclusively beginning in June (the studio had previously supported both formats) swinging the momentum toward the format in its war against HD. Player sales moved heavily toward Blu-ray in the wake of the Warners announcement. But the Toshiba-led HD group is not lying down -- it will run a Superbowl ad supporting the format this weekend.

Anime companies have been slow to begin high def releases, with concerns over the format war as one important reason. High end distributor Bandai Visual has releases in both high def formats. Sony has released its features Tekkonkinkreet and Paprika in Blu-ray format. And FUNimation has expressed support for high definition anime as format issues become settled (see "Interview with Gen Fukunaga, Part 1"). But ADV appears to be willing to make its bet and move forward in a big way, believing that anime fans want the quality that high definition brings.

I've never saw this many companies switching to one format before in such a small timeframe. While most of them do not posses any strong market share or can alter the market much, their decisions sure paint a clear picture.

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kak    0
I guess you have super eyes, cause every single review of there MPEG2 encodes of catalog titles are garbage.

Depends what you mean by no loss in clarity against what others?

Can't really compare 1 movie against another.

Fox should re-release there shoddy MPEG2 releases like Sony did with Fifth Element.

But then again some may argue the first release of Sony's the Fifth Element has no loss in clarity also :rolleyes:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/655/fewgoodmen.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/enemyofthestate.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/pearlharbor.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/underworldevolution.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/22/punisher.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/196/missio...temissions.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/185/italianjob2003.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/218/blackhawkdown.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/211/transporter.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/491/worldtradecenter.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/476/transporter2.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/496/invincible.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/541/guardian2006.html

Average of 4.0-4.5 out of 5.0 video transfer rating on this website. All MPEG-2 transfers. Terrible huh? Blame the studios for the bad transfers, it has nothing to do with the codec used. MPEG-2 transfers aren't as good on space as AVC or VC-1 transfers, but they can look just as good on a BD-50.

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Coldgunner    12
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Went to my local Sears (Greenville, NC) on a hunt for the Samsung BD-P1200 on clearance that is listed in another thread and found they had Sony's BDP-S1 on clearance for $145.97. The lowest on pricegrabber.com is $480.

I got the last 2 they had. Sears item number is 57436.

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.ph...=0&t=739618

Looks like if you want a Blu-Ray player for about $150 then your in luck!

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soniqstylz    1,048

Had just come on to post that.

Might as well post again in the Blu-ray confirmed news section.

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ctebah    3,161
Netflix exclusively backs news Blu-Ray releases:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/11/netflix...an-hd-dvd-soon/

was just about to post that. that is a huge blow to the hd-dvd community. with a recent switch of many retailers in europe and companies switching left and right to blu-ray the war is coming to an end very soon.

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DrCheese    103

Best Buy to Recommend Blu-ray as the Customer's Digital Format Choice

http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+Release...ce/3345206.html

oh my :p I don't see how HD-DVD supporters can spin this much longer. The above best buy press release doesn't mention that they are dropping HD-DVD, but they are now going to massively push blu-ray as its preferred choice.

There's also a rumour going around that DSG, the owners of PC world/Currys/Dixons Digital in the UK and many major chains in Europe are close to switching as well. Currys over here is pretty much our version of Best buy. It going Blu-ray only would be way WAY bigger than woolworth's. If you buy a piece of electrical equipment in the UK that's not online. Currys is usually one of the first port of call for the average joe.

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/shownews.php?id=9468

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Mathachew    149
Best Buy to Recommend Blu-ray as the Customer's Digital Format Choice

http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+Release...ce/3345206.html

oh my :p I don't see how HD-DVD supporters can spin this much longer. The above best buy press release doesn't mention that they are dropping HD-DVD, but they are now going to massively push blu-ray as its preferred choice.

There's also a rumour going around that DSG, the owners of PC world/Currys/Dixons Digital in the UK and many major chains in Europe are close to switching as well. Currys over here is pretty much our version of Best buy. It going Blu-ray only would be way WAY bigger than woolworth's. If you buy a piece of electrical equipment in the UK that's not online. Currys is usually one of the first port of call for the average joe.

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/shownews.php?id=9468

At least now they're official. Anytime I spoke with someone from CC or BB, they've always throw Blu-Ray into the HD discussion, instead of saying something like, "an HD player." I walk into my local BB and can see twice as much BD emphasis than on HD, but at least they're coming out with it.

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jerzdawg    338

well.. it was fun while it lasted... ill hold onto my dozen or so hd-dvds and my a2 player.... no desire to pick up a blu-ray player just yet...

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kak    0
well.. it was fun while it lasted... ill hold onto my dozen or so hd-dvds and my a2 player.... no desire to pick up a blu-ray player just yet...

No reason to really. The Funai player or whatever it will be called when it hits the US will be the best bet for most. The PS3 is still the best bet and is going to be Sony's cash cow from this point forward.

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TruckWEB    480

I'm reading all this, going very well for Blu-Ray and then I got to think.... Where is Boz? I've not read anything from him for a while!!! Did he lost his patience with us "kids" and moved on to other forums?

Because with everything going on for Blu, I would have expected a nice HD-DVD comment from him. A prediction or crystal ball reading, you know, some good "rumors/news" for HD-DVD....

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ctebah    3,161
I'm reading all this, going very well for Blu-Ray and then I got to think.... Where is Boz? I've not read anything from him for a while!!! Did he lost his patience with us "kids" and moved on to other forums?

Because with everything going on for Blu, I would have expected a nice HD-DVD comment from him. A prediction or crystal ball reading, you know, some good "rumors/news" for HD-DVD....

boz hasn't posted in almost two weeks, i think he is restricted from posting due to new warning rules. *i think* though, so i could be wrong.

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sn00pie    2

Thats absurd, there's no way in hell Boz should be restricted from posting in here. Is this true?

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kak    0
boz hasn't posted in almost two weeks, i think he is restricted from posting due to new warning rules. *i think* though, so i could be wrong.

His account says "restricted (chat)" or something along those lines. I dunno what it means, but its been pretty quiet around here lately. I wonder what his insiders have been saying.

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ctebah    3,161
Thats absurd, there's no way in hell Boz should be restricted from posting in here. Is this true?

check his profile.

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KMan    0
Yep, just got that in my inbox, and logged on here to see if anyone had posted about it.

****es me off as that's the main reason why I picked up my netflix account. I'd order the hddvds that I wasn't planning to own, and then stream the small amount of shows from their list while I'm at work. Time to cancel my Netflix account.

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soniqstylz    1,048
Thats absurd, there's no way in hell Boz should be restricted from posting in here. Is this true?

I hope not. I agree that would be absurd.

I'm more thinking along the lines of either a) there's no way to spin it, so why bother, or b) he has a life outside of neowin,... I mean, obviously the guy has a decent job in order to attempt to single-handedly keep HD-DVD afloat.

Well, him and Amir.

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goji    30
His account says "restricted (chat)" or something along those lines. I dunno what it means, but its been pretty quiet around here lately. I wonder what his insiders have been saying.

What most investors on Wall Street might be saying amongst themselves: " SELL SELL SELL!".

To the rest of the society: "Oh heck, there are no problems. Continue purchasing as you normally would have"

I mean, obviously the guy has a decent job in order to attempt to single-handedly keep HD-DVD afloat.

Well, him and Amir.

Between the two of them their marketing so far has blown donkey hullahoops. If you can't get the word out aint no one going to care.

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DrCheese    103

Boz is still posting heavily for the HD-DVD side on other websites, just not on neowin at the moment. (So it seems). I believe the restricted "chat" tag on his username just means for the IRC, but I could be wrong.

HD-DVD group responds to yesterdays rulings

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9869591-7..._______________

"We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Netflix make the decision to only stock Blu-ray titles going forward. While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."

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Coldgunner    12

BBC has picked up the story...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7240434.stm

Double boost for Blu-ray backers

The backers of the Blu-ray high definition DVD system have received a twin boost in their ongoing format war with HD DVD.

Best Buy - the US's largest consumer electronics chain - has announced it is to recommend that its customers choose Sony's Blu-ray format.

Its shops will carry HD DVD but Blu-ray will be displayed more prominently.

And online video rental company Netflix said it would phase out its HD DVD stock and exclusively offer Blu-ray.

Studio backing

Netflix has become the US's largest company in a fast-growing field - DVD rental by mail - and announced a year ago that it had made its billionth DVD delivery after just eight years in business.

It has stocked both Blu-ray and HD DVD since the formats came on the market in early 2006 but said it had been prompted to reconsider this after a majority of the major Hollywood studios came out in favour of Blu-ray.

Walt Disney, Sony Pictures, Twentieth Century Fox, Warner Brothers and MGM are the studios that have endorsed Blu-ray. Paramount and Universal Studios publish their high-definition DVDs in Toshiba's HD DVD format.

The company also said the reality was that not many customers were ordering HD DVDs. "From the Netflix perspective, focusing on one format will enable us to create the best experience for subscribers," it said in a statement.

Netflix's rival Blockbuster said last June that it planned to stock only Blu-ray titles in its 1,450 US stores.

Best Buy's decision was explained by its president and chief operating officer Brian Dunn, who said: "Best Buy has always believed that the customer will benefit from a widely accepted single format that would offer advantages such as product compatibility and expanded content choices.

"Because we believe that Blu-ray is fast emerging as that single format, we have decided to focus on Blu-ray products."

The battle between HD DVD and Blu-ray has echoes of the rivalry between Betamax and VHS in the 1980s over which was the better video format for customers.

Although both competed side-by-side for several years, the cheaper VHS format eventually won total dominance of the market.

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+StevoFC    21

Netflix is so stupid for doing that. If anything, they could gain a lot by keeping HD DVD. All the people who have HD DVD players won't just get rid of them, but a lot will stop buying HD DVDs. With something like netflix they could still rent any movies they want rather than buying all of them. It's just a totally illogical business decision on their part. If anything, the slow decline of HD DVD could easily give a company like netflix more business.

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