Front Page News: Copy & Paste Stories


Copy & Paste Newsposts  

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  1. 1. I would like Neowin to have

    • Only Copy & Paste Newposts
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    • A mix of c&p and no c&p
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    • No Copy & Paste Newsposts
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  2. 2. Overall I want

    • More C&P
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    • Less C&P
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    • No Change
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Neowin has always had a mix of copy & paste newsposts and original newsposts. We definitely have more copy & paste news though, and I'm interested if our readers care. I've only seen a couple of comments complaining about news being "ripped off" from another source, usually members seem perfectly fine with it. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the content front page news.

Note: This is to satisfy my curiosity and I do not guarantee any changes from the News Staff as a whole. I may change my habits, but that's about it. Nevertheless, I'm sure other staff members will find the results interesting and probably vote themselves.

edit: Added second poll question

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I don't really visit other tech sites, so a lot of the news in the tech world that I get comes from here, so I'm all for the Copy/Paste scheme. What you have now works fine, don't fix what's not broken :p

-Spenser

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I don't really visit other tech sites, so a lot of the news in the tech world that I get comes from here, so I'm all for the Copy/Paste scheme. What you have now works fine, don't fix what's not broken :p

-Spenser

Completely agree.

I like the fact that I can still read all other news here, so I don't have to visit other sites.

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No problem with the copy + paste.

I do have problems with the worthless stories though. Such as the one about the run once site being down. Who gives a crap? No one.

True I see some of the stories would be better off in the BPN of the forum rather then Front Page but they will get views due to the high number of people on the feed.

I don't like the Copy and Paste function I like to see a story written original and first hand not something that someone else has done, a re-written story can be alot better then the original.

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As long as the point is made it doesn't matter if it is "cut and paste" or newly written.

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If its a pure copy & paste from another site I wouldn't mind as much if there was a little newsposters' comment in a supplementary paragraph or soemthing

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700+ views in 2 hours would beg to differ.

RSS feed. I'll show up as viewing it even though I didn't read anything but the blurb. Ever noticed that ALL stories on the front page get about the same number of hits?

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I like the mix, but would like to see more original stories
Agreed. The regular "plain vanilla" news cut from other sources is a good foundation (otherwise Neowin would be only reviews & editorials). I like the Neowin original content, as well, and seeing a bit more of it would be welcome! (Y)
How about instead of just copy & paste, the story is summarized in posters own words - take a look for instance what some of the more popular blogs do; gizmodo, engadget,..
Any time a newsie adds editorial content, they get blasted for "spin" or "altering content". I think that the division of copied news from editorial content and home-grown reviews is a good thing to maintain. :yes:
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Lots of sites do c&p stories I don't have a problem with it. However, I like the ones that when they do a c&p still give their own view on the story as well. Lots of the really popular blogs and/or news sites do that exact thing. Just plain c&p without no opinion of the poster's own view does seem a little bit cheap. Having said that, it's not always necessary either..some stories stand on their own. And I would suggest making your own words recognizable, like 'My take' or 'My opinion is' or something along those lines. And the c&p part should be quoted and credit given (of course, yes I know neowin does that).

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I only have a problem when some guy posts news and they mix everything around in the post, it doesnt match the article.

On forums like this i tend to do my articles a more professional way.

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:globe: Title of website where info came from

this way seems so much more professional on the forums then just copy and paste or some 13 or 14 year old just coping a news article and mixing everything around to a point where it doesnt make sense or doesnt even match the article at all

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I don't mind reading copy and paste articles, but it could lead to other sites bashing us saying "oh they only copy and paste the interweb!".

I do notice when you guys write your own mix of things, and to me it doesn't make much difference, it's not like I skip over self-written articles.

Afterall, the sites catch phrase is "where unprofessional journalism look better"

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Any time a newsie adds editorial content, they get blasted for "spin" or "altering content". I think that the division of copied news from editorial content and home-grown reviews is a good thing to maintain. :yes:

Good point. I agree (Y)

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I dont get the "where unprofessional journalism look better" thing......

and also i personly dont care if so and so copied and pasted, just as long as they include a source I'm happy.

Perhaps if there is copy and paste you make a requirement both on the front page and on the forums to copy and paste 2 paragraphs. that way the entire article isnt copied.

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Good post, good point. I've always believed that for this site to remain unique it needed to harness the power of its forums + members with a strong brand for independent news.

Now, all news papers 'copy paste' other content -typically in the form of syndicated AP of articles etc - so I don't think you'll ever see it gone completely. After all, we can't cover everything.

However, Neowin needs to continue driving independently produced content. Quality news content drives links, page views, ad revenue and new forum members - and we stick around for the long run (7 yrs and counting)! It's worth seriously investing in admins! :rolleyes:

You can't rely on the forums for ever. Whilst the forums here have provided a 'conversation' between content producers and readers and makes the site quite 'sticky', one questions how long the model holds - RSS, twitter, etc make blogs and other websites much more interactive and provide a medium for the conversation - although whether they drive the same sense of community a forum like neowin's does is questionable.

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I think the front page needs content other than news.

More in house reviews, editorials, or tutorials. Anything that could only be found here, and maybe the person's own personal site who made it.

Original content is the key to growth. Copy and paste jobs aren't.

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