+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 13, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sony’s Eric Lempel has hinted that PlayStation 2 backwards compatibility could be resurrected for PS3 owners in the form of downloads via the PlayStation Network.With Sony phasing out PS3 launch models which boasted PS2 backwards compatibility, either via embedded hardware or software emulation, it looked as if PS2 playback on Sony’s latest console was set to become a thing of the past as the platform holder wholeheartedly threw its weight behind its next-gen software drive. However, PlayStation Network director Lempel has said that backwards functionality could still play a part in Sony’s plans as the technology exists to make PS2 titles available as downloads from the PlayStation Store. "We haven't talked about that yet, but there are possibilities through technology and software emulation to make that possible," he told EGM magazine, via Kotaku. Sony currently offers original PlayStation titles as downloads for PS3 and PSP via the PlayStation Store. Source: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=c...99&Itemid=2 Not exactly confirmation, but it seems likely to happen (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 So does that mean I'll be able to play PS2 discs in the console too, or are they going to make me re-buy all the games I already own from the PS network? If this means real BC, then good. Now drop the HDCP on games so I can plug it into my not-even-one-year-old 1920x1200 DVI monitor that happens not to go out of its way to appease the copyright gods and I'll consider buying one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted February 13, 2008 Veteran Share Posted February 13, 2008 So does that mean I'll be able to play PS2 discs in the console too, or are they going to make me re-buy all the games I already own from the PS network? Sadly it sounds like the latter. And while I don't mean to troll about this I think it's BS that they force people to buy their games again in this way where 360 owners have the best of both worlds with regards to BC. Still, though, I guess it's better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 13, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 13, 2008 So does that mean I'll be able to play PS2 discs in the console too, or are they going to make me re-buy all the games I already own from the PS network?If this means real BC, then good. Now drop the HDCP on games so I can plug it into my not-even-one-year-old 1920x1200 DVI monitor that happens not to go out of its way to appease the copyright gods and I'll consider buying one. It would just be a BC enabled PS3 through software. Discs would work, but compatibility may be a good % lower than hardware - Just depends on how well Sony can get emulation working, they have done awesomely on the PSP to get PSX titles working, so I have confidence they could do good software BC on the PS3. Now drop the HDCP on games so I can plug it into my not-even-one-year-old 1920x1200 DVI monitor that happens not to go out of its way to appease the copyright gods and I'll consider buying one. Can Sony do that? I just thought it was specification of HDMI to only work with HDCP sets/monitors? Sadly it sounds like the latter. And while I don't mean to troll about this I think it's BS that they force people to buy their games again in this way where 360 owners have the best of both worlds with regards to BC. Still, though, I guess it's better than nothing. They don't force you to rebuy PS1 games (every PS3 plays PS1 games from disc), so there is no reason they would with PS2. If the PS3 was made software BC, it would actually require more effort to go block disc play and only allow download play - Disc play would come naturally through software BC becoming available (Blu Ray drive in every PS3 is the same, so it's not like the 40GB PS3 doesn't read DVDs either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sadly it sounds like the latter. And while I don't mean to troll about this I think it's BS that they force people to buy their games again in this way where 360 owners have the best of both worlds with regards to BC. Still, though, I guess it's better than nothing. Remember though that BC for the 360 uses emulation software specific to each title (or at least profiles). at least the UK 60gb had 1000+ titles compatible. IMO 360 BC is quite bad. I just wish sony would stop widescreen ps2 games being slightly overscanned in fullscreen mode on ps3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Can Sony do that? I just thought it was specification of HDMI to only work with HDCP sets/monitors? HDMI doesn't need HDCP as far as I know. It's technically just DVI with additional pins for audio. To the best of my knowledge it was just Sony being Sony when they decided to implement Haughty Dipsh*t Copyright P*ssantism on games on the PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Wait a second.. If BC come back then its a joke on behalf of Sony themselves. They are saying it may come back in the form of "downloads" via PSN? Erm sorry but i already saw this coming so nothing new there....But the question on everyones mind is, do you have to repurchase the same games you brought back on PS2? And i think we all know the answer to that one :blink: You just know it will not be compatible with discs, only downloaded versions of the game via PSN. This is what Sony was planning anyway right from the start. It's simply a way to cash in (N) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 13, 2008 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 13, 2008 Wait a second.. If BC come back then its a joke on behalf of Sony themselves. They are saying it may come back in the form of "downloads" via PSN? Erm sorry but i already saw this coming so nothing new there....But the question on everyones mind is, do you have to repurchase the same games you brought back on PS2? And i think we all know the answer to that one :blink: You just know it will not be compatible with discs, only downloaded versions of the game via PSN.This is what Sony was planning anyway right from the start. It's simply a way to cash in (N) Oh cmon, as much as Sony are out to make money, they will not be forcing you to rebuy PS2 games IF software BC becomes available. That sort of decision would not be wise, and it's not practical. Not even Sony would make a mistake like that. If and when software BC is enabled, it will work exactly the same way in which PS1 software BC works - As you know PS1 titles are emulated on the PS3, there is no PS1 hardware inside. Discs will work and I suspect they will work through remote play to the PSP/PSP2 (I believe a PSP2 will come out during lifespan of PS3) as well eventually. Add two analog sticks to a PSP2, and it will be even better (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 BC will be coming back via software emulation(For PS2 games) we all know that. They just need time to get it working right. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Oh cmon, as much as Sony are out to make money, they will not be forcing you to rebuy PS2 games IF software BC becomes available.That sort of decision would not be wise, and it's not practical. Not even Sony would make a mistake like that. If and when software BC is enabled, it will work exactly the same way in which PS1 software BC works - As you know PS1 titles are emulated on the PS3, there is no PS1 hardware inside. Discs will work and I suspect they will work through remote play to the PSP/PSP2 (I believe a PSP2 will come out during lifespan of PS3) as well eventually. Add two analog sticks to a PSP2, and it will be even better (Y) But no-one really knows though. They could accept BC via PS2 discs or make you buy the game again saying touch luck. The fact is no-one really knows do they apart from Sony. They may have made many mistakes in the past, but you are making out like they are finished.....they are far from done with their mistakes im afraid. Do you think Sony gives a crap abut what we want? If they did, BC would of stayed without ever going. If Sony mentioned this when they decide to have the 40GB model that BC would come via PSN and "you can play via PS2 discs you brought" not downloaded from PSN, then people wouldn't of held from buying it. INCLUDING ME. I'm sorry if i sound anal, but is there any proof Sony aren't going to make you pay for the same games u brought just to play it on your PS3? We don't even know it's actually going to come back anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy0 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 It would be retarded not to allow the PS2 discs to be played but instead force users to download titles they already own, so I can't see Sony doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin001 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Its def gona happen, it wud be reaally silly not to! If guys can get ps2 games runnin thru software on PC then Sony can get it going on a ps3 :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightz Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 But no-one really knows though. They could accept BC via PS2 discs or make you buy the game again saying touch luck. The fact is no-one really knows do they apart from Sony. They may have made many mistakes in the past, but you are making out like they are finished.....they are far from done with their mistakes im afraid. Do you think Sony gives a crap abut what we want? If they did, BC would of stayed without ever going.If Sony mentioned this when they decide to have the 40GB model that BC would come via PSN and "you can play via PS2 discs you brought" not downloaded from PSN, then people wouldn't of held from buying it. INCLUDING ME. I'm sorry if i sound anal, but is there any proof Sony aren't going to make you pay for the same games u brought just to play it on your PS3? We don't even know it's actually going to come back anyway. exactly. no one knows. but in your original post, you make it seem like you already know, which is why i think you got the response you did from audio. Wait a second.. If BC come back then its a joke on behalf of Sony themselves. They are saying it may come back in the form of "downloads" via PSN? Erm sorry but i already saw this coming so nothing new there....But the question on everyones mind is, do you have to repurchase the same games you brought back on PS2? And i think we all know the answer to that one :blink: You just know it will not be compatible with discs, only downloaded versions of the game via PSN.This is what Sony was planning anyway right from the start. It's simply a way to cash in (N) we don't even have confirmation that the ps2 games are coming to psn. and if they are, they can go either way in terms of being able to use discs. i don't think we should make any assumptions quite yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 exactly. no one knows. but in your original post, you make it seem like you already know, which is why i think you got the response you did from audio. I am just going by the OP so please don't shoot and let me express how i feel. It was Sony's retarded desicion to get rid of BC in the first place, but you just never know with Sony do you on whats next ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+StevoFC MVC Posted February 13, 2008 MVC Share Posted February 13, 2008 I don't see why they wouldn't have downloadable ps2 games. Some ps3's support dumping ps2 games to the HDD. http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en...hddinstall.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I don't see why they wouldn't have downloadable ps2 games. Some ps3's support dumping ps2 games to the HDD. http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en...hddinstall.html the PS2 HDD was never released in europe, so that feature is unfortunately useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 So where does this leave the 40Gb PS3? it has no PS2 BC at all, does that mean it can't play the downloadable PS2 games either? it doesn't bother me as I still have my PS2, but I am still curious about the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 So where does this leave the 40Gb PS3? it has no PS2 BC at all, does that mean it can't play the downloadable PS2 games either? it doesn't bother me as I still have my PS2, but I am still curious about the matter. It can when they release a firmware update to allow PS2 software emulation :) (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 It can when they release a firmware update to allow PS2 software emulation :) (Y) That is cool :) this would include PS2 game disks as well as downloadable PS2 games, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 That is cool :) this would include PS2 game disks as well as downloadable PS2 games, right? I would reckon so. I dont see how they could block PS2 game discs from being played and then let you play downloaded PS2 titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 If I can buy all the Final Fantasy Games from PSN and other RPGs I'd be pretty damn happy. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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